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Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray

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  • Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?


    1233 G
    5109 PA
    4558 AB
    678 R
    1294 H
    138 2B
    78 3B
    17 HR
    413 RBI
    261 SB
    378 BB
    458 K
    .284 BA
    .346 OBP
    .360 SLG
    .705 OPS
    117 OPS+
    1639 TB
    54 HBP
    119 SH
    15.5 WAR


    1264 G
    4786 PA
    4334 AB
    555 R
    1170 H
    168 2B
    96 3B
    37 HR
    579 RBI
    321 SB
    >=33 CS
    299 BB
    379 K
    .270 BA
    .323 OBP
    .379 SLG
    .702 OPS
    108 OPS+
    1641 TB
    40 HBP
    113 SH
    14.7 WAR

    If Dougherty wins, he will face his third-most similar comp's eighth-most similar comp. If Murray wins, he will face his most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    3Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty
    Red Murray

    The poll is expired.

  • #2
    I thought Murray would knock Dougherty off when I saw the match-up. But alas, much like John McGraw, from what think I have read, Murray left me disappointed. Dougherty gets it for me.


    • #3
      Yeah, I thought Murray had a shot at edging out Dougherty, but the latter beats the former in too many categories. In terms of stardom, however, Murray may have edged Dougherty--he was considered one of the best rightfielders in NYG history upon his passing. Still, I have to give the nod to Dougherty.


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