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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    Originally posted by hwmongoose View Post
    This team looks the best to me of those constructed so far. How about a typical lineup?

    CF. Ty Cobb 1911
    2B. Rogers Hornsby 1924
    RF. Babe Ruth 1920
    1B. Lou Gehrig 1927
    DH Ted Williams 1941
    LF. Barry Bonds 2001
    3b. Mike Schmidt 1981
    C. Johnny Bench 1972
    SS. Honus Wagner 1908
    Looks like a good lineup to me. Yeah I wasnt sure how to really make the team I kinda assumed these are the best choices but when I look at these other teams it seems like some are picking maybe their favorite players rather than the best players.

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  • Jobu Voodoo
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    Originally posted by StanTheMan View Post
    Perhaps "tons" left room for a better choice of word, but has anyone else picked him? As for Rose, he's not even eligible, so you might have a second choice at the ready.
    I'm not worried about who else has picked him. Games are played one at a time. As for Rose, how is he not eligible? He played more than enough games at 2B.

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  • hwmongoose
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    Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    C. Johnny Bench 1972
    1B. Lou Gehrig 1927
    2B. Roger Hornsby 1924
    3b. Mike Schmidt 1981
    SS. Honus Wagner 1908
    LF. Barry Bonds 2001
    CF. Ty Cobb 1911
    RF. Babe Ruth 1920
    DH Ted Williams 1941
    BENCH
    Mickey Mantle 1956
    Nap Lajoie 1901
    Mike Piazza 1997
    Arky Vaughn 1935
    Stan Musial 1948
    Willie Mays 1955
    SP1. Walter Johnson 1913
    SP2. Lefty Grove 1931
    SP3. Pedro Martinez 2000
    SP4. Bob Gibson 1968
    SP5. Pete Alexander 1915
    Greg Maddux 1995
    Christy Mathewson 1905
    Randy Johnson 2002
    Tom Seaver 1971
    Sandy Koufax 1966
    CLR. Dennis Eckersley 1990
    This team looks the best to me of those constructed so far. How about a typical lineup?

    CF. Ty Cobb 1911
    2B. Rogers Hornsby 1924
    RF. Babe Ruth 1920
    1B. Lou Gehrig 1927
    DH Ted Williams 1941
    LF. Barry Bonds 2001
    3b. Mike Schmidt 1981
    C. Johnny Bench 1972
    SS. Honus Wagner 1908

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  • BondsOverBabe
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    RF - Ichiro 2001
    2 - Alomar 1996
    DH - Bonds 2004
    1 - Pujols 2008
    3 - Schmidt 1977
    SS - Ripken 1984
    C - Pudge 1999
    CF - Andruw Jones 1998
    LF - Crawford 2006

    Starters - Curt Schilling 2001, Doc Gooden 1985, Justin Verlander 2011, Fernando Valenzuela 1981, El Duque 1999
    Relief - Eric Gange 2003, Aroldis Chapman 2012, Goose Goosage 1977

    I WIN
    Last edited by BondsOverBabe; 06-16-2012, 10:47 PM.

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  • BondsOverBabe
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    Give me
    RF - Ichiro
    2 - Alomar
    DH - Bonds
    1 - Pujols
    3 - Schmidt
    SS - Ripken
    C - Pudge
    CF - Andruw Jones
    LF - Crawford

    Starters - Curt Schilling, Doc Gooden, Justin Verlander, Fernando Valenzuela, Cliff Lee, El Duque
    Releif - Eric Gange, Aroldis Chapman, Goose Goosage

    I WIN

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  • redban
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    Yes, Matthews is certainly white.

    You could also move Rodriguez to 3b and put Ozzie Smith or Omar Visquel at SS.

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  • Nimrod
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    You might consider replacing Mathews at 3rd with Ray Dandridge,as Eddie Mathews was most certainly NOT a non-white!

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  • pheasant
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    Originally posted by redban View Post
    I don't know - 2B should be Joe Morgan.

    It's one thing to speculate that Robinson might have topped 90 WAR; but Joe Morgan actually did it (almost got to 100 too).

    Other comments:

    -For pitchers, there's also Juan Marichal, Fergie Jenkins, and Satchel Paige.
    -Josh Gibson for catcher since Pudge has the steroid cloud.
    -Edgar Martinez for DH.
    Good call on Josh. I would love to see what Josh could have done against MLB pitching. That is perhaps my biggest curiosity, even ahead of Sadaharu Oh. I still Like Jackie Robinson over Joe Morgan mainly due to defense. However, you raise a very valid point there. I'll admit that stats don't back my pick of Jackie over Morgan.

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  • redban
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    Originally posted by pheasant View Post
    Here is my favorite non-white team

    1b: Saduharu Oh*
    2b: Jackie Robinson
    SS A-Rod
    3B Eddie Mathews
    RF Hank Aaron
    CF Willie Mays
    LF Barry Bonds
    C Pudge Rodriguez

    I'll take Pedro Martinez and Bob Gibson as my starters with Mo Rivera as a reliever.

    Actually, this team looks very deadly! A-rod, Barry, and Willie would have made this list outright anyway. And Jackie Robinson doesn't get enough credit for how good he really was. Robinson lost 6-7 of his prime years. Had he been able to play right away, I think he might have broken 90 WAR and actually had better rate stats than he did. I shafted Pujols, because I decided to put one fellow Japanese player on this team. And I figured Oh was closer to Pujols than Ichiro was to Mays.
    I don't know - 2B should be Joe Morgan.

    It's one thing to speculate that Robinson might have topped 90 WAR; but Joe Morgan actually did it (almost got to 100 too).

    Other comments:

    -For pitchers, there's also Juan Marichal, Fergie Jenkins, and Satchel Paige.
    -Josh Gibson for catcher since Pudge has the steroid cloud.
    -Edgar Martinez for DH.

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  • pheasant
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    Here is my favorite non-white team

    1b: Saduharu Oh*
    2b: Jackie Robinson
    SS A-Rod
    3B Eddie Mathews
    RF Hank Aaron
    CF Willie Mays
    LF Barry Bonds
    C Pudge Rodriguez

    I'll take Pedro Martinez and Bob Gibson as my starters with Mo Rivera as a reliever.

    Actually, this team looks very deadly! A-rod, Barry, and Willie would have made this list outright anyway. And Jackie Robinson doesn't get enough credit for how good he really was. Robinson lost 6-7 of his prime years. Had he been able to play right away, I think he might have broken 90 WAR and actually had better rate stats than he did. I shafted Pujols, because I decided to put one fellow Japanese player on this team. And I figured Oh was closer to Pujols than Ichiro was to Mays.

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  • redban
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    Originally posted by fenrir View Post
    Sosa's 2001 is far superior to his 1998 season.
    I know - but 1998 was his signature season. It just feels right to put 1998 next to his name.

    Take Barry Bonds; statistically 2002 or 2004 may be his best, but 2001 was his signature year.

    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
    if you want La Russa to manage you need aboout 8 more guys in the bullpen so he can make 3 relief changes in both the 7th and 8th innings each
    Not too many pitchers are associated with steroids though; I had to research to find Denny Neagle.

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  • StanTheMan
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    Perhaps "tons" left room for a better choice of word, but has anyone else picked him? As for Rose, he's not even eligible, so you might have a second choice at the ready.

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  • LouGehrig
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    I don't think you are aware of Rodriguez's range.

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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    C. Johnny Bench 1972
    1B. Lou Gehrig 1927
    2B. Roger Hornsby 1924
    3b. Mike Schmidt 1981
    SS. Honus Wagner 1908
    LF. Barry Bonds 2001
    CF. Ty Cobb 1911
    RF. Babe Ruth 1920
    DH Ted Williams 1941
    BENCH
    Mickey Mantle 1956
    Nap Lajoie 1901
    Mike Piazza 1997
    Arky Vaughn 1935
    Stan Musial 1948
    Willie Mays 1955
    SP1. Walter Johnson 1913
    SP2. Lefty Grove 1931
    SP3. Pedro Martinez 2000
    SP4. Bob Gibson 1968
    SP5. Pete Alexander 1915
    Greg Maddux 1995
    Christy Mathewson 1905
    Randy Johnson 2002
    Tom Seaver 1971
    Sandy Koufax 1966
    CLR. Dennis Eckersley 1990
    Last edited by chicagowhitesox1173; 06-16-2012, 02:50 PM.

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  • Jobu Voodoo
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    Pete Rose broke 3,000 hits during his 15th season. He was the 4th fastest in all of Major League baseball history to reach the mark, so longevity has nothing to do with his reaching 3,000 hits. Now, you can attribute a bit of longevity to his all-time hits leader mark, but he is hardly the only player to have played 24 years and I can guarantee you that there are many players who have played for 20+ years and still haven't even broken 3,000. Fact is, he is certainly a more than suitable 2nd baseman and he played with a fire unlike many players so he was my choice. As far as Ripken, you're high if you think there are tons at SS that surpass him.

    Originally posted by StanTheMan View Post
    Stopped reading after the above...

    Your team would lose IMO. The number of significantly better choices at 2B (you could have a Triple Criwn Winner or amguy who hit better than .400 for several year window for example) - those better than Rose are almost too numerous to mention, and there are tons at SS as well...

    I'm not sure if you will, but please don't come back with the "All-Time Hit King" argument. Impressive, sure, and amassed a total never to be broken imo, but a mark of longevity more than anything else. If Rose were merely a .220 hitter or so, he played for soooooo long he still would have had 3,000 hits! Not that such a crappy hitter would get that many AB's, but still...

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