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  • #61
    Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
    Of course, many fans and public figures were also very negative about ballplayers continuing their careers while ordinary Joes went off and got killed, which probably wasn't doing much for Joe's concentration. Joe's #1 concern with going into the service may well have been how much salary he was going to lose by doing so, not a shock if you're familiar with his personality.



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    I don't think there was much public outcry about athletes playing ball in 1942. US casualty lists were pretty small that season. The only player who was really getting any heat about it was Ted Williams, until he enlisted in the Navy. I don't think Americans really began criticizing athletes who stayed behind until the DDay Invasion in 1944. This is when US casualties really began to get high. By early 1945 there was a movement in the Senate to shut baseball down for the duration.

    Something else that I think may have impacted DiMaggio's 1942 season (or really the first half-he had a very good season after the All Star Break) was that he and his wife had an infant at home. This probably added to his deteriorating marriage.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
      Dorothy was putting a lot of pressure on Joe to join the military because she thought it would be bad for her career to be married to a coward who wouldn't serve. Funny how Joe was basically used by both of his wives to further their careers, I guess not so successfully by Dorothy...he got back at them them by being a horrible husband (and father).
      Of course, many fans and public figures were also very negative about ballplayers continuing their careers while ordinary Joes went off and got killed, which probably wasn't doing much for Joe's concentration. Joe's #1 concern with going into the service may well have been how much salary he was going to lose by doing so, not a shock if you're familiar with his personality.



      I'm sure the public outcry would have been incredible if DiMaggio's parents had received special treatment and word got out.

      Of all the mega superstar players, I wonder if DiMaggio had the oddest personality. He was known mostly for being silent, very demanding, and holding grudges. Joe supposedly drove from SF to NYC with Tony Lazzeri and Frankie Crosetti without saying one word. Once you did something to offend Joe, it was almost impossible to get back in his good graces...Toots Shor treated him like a god for years and then was dropped out of Joe's life because hey made a drunken comment that Joe took to be insulting to Marilyn. Years later, a crippled Toots was desperate to talk to Joe one last time at an old timer's game at Yankee and tottered over on his crutches...DiMaggio slipped out of the clubhouse without a word. Joe chewed out a young lady in an airport in about the most profane way possible (even called her the C word) because she worked for a memorabilia company he didn't like and dared to approach him. He more or less ignored his only child for most of his life and the poor guy became a drifter who ODed not long after his pop died. Joe was also an expert tightwad who coveted money like few others and stored huge piles of cash all around the world.
      The only really prominent ballplayer I can think of who rivals Joe for being strange is Steve Carlton. Cobb was cranky and sensitive, but he would talk to people...Williams acted out as a youngster and wasn't much of a husband or father, but mellowed into a long term relationship with a good woman in his old age and was always very generous (think Jimmy Fund). Hornsby, Bonds, and Clemens were big jerks, but that's not so odd.

      Tremendous ballplayer, basically did everything EXTREMELY well except draw walks. But he knew the strike zone and almost never Ked, plus your OBP is still going to be pretty good if you hit .381.

      BTW - 1937.
      Can you imagine if a ballplayer acted this way today? He'd be extremely disliked by most people, especially with Facebook, Twitter and all the other social media we have today. If that incident with the young lady had been captured on video, it would be on Youtube in about 5 minutes.
      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
        Dorothy was putting a lot of pressure on Joe to join the military because she thought it would be bad for her career to be married to a coward who wouldn't serve. Funny how Joe was basically used by both of his wives to further their careers, I guess not so successfully by Dorothy...he got back at them them by being a horrible husband (and father).
        Of course, many fans and public figures were also very negative about ballplayers continuing their careers while ordinary Joes went off and got killed, which probably wasn't doing much for Joe's concentration. Joe's #1 concern with going into the service may well have been how much salary he was going to lose by doing so, not a shock if you're familiar with his personality.



        I'm sure the public outcry would have been incredible if DiMaggio's parents had received special treatment and word got out.

        Of all the mega superstar players, I wonder if DiMaggio had the oddest personality. He was known mostly for being silent, very demanding, and holding grudges. Joe supposedly drove from SF to NYC with Tony Lazzeri and Frankie Crosetti without saying one word. Once you did something to offend Joe, it was almost impossible to get back in his good graces...Toots Shor treated him like a god for years and then was dropped out of Joe's life because hey made a drunken comment that Joe took to be insulting to Marilyn. Years later, a crippled Toots was desperate to talk to Joe one last time at an old timer's game at Yankee and tottered over on his crutches...DiMaggio slipped out of the clubhouse without a word. Joe chewed out a young lady in an airport in about the most profane way possible (even called her the C word) because she worked for a memorabilia company he didn't like and dared to approach him. He more or less ignored his only child for most of his life and the poor guy became a drifter who ODed not long after his pop died. Joe was also an expert tightwad who coveted money like few others and stored huge piles of cash all around the world.
        The only really prominent ballplayer I can think of who rivals Joe for being strange is Steve Carlton. Cobb was cranky and sensitive, but he would talk to people...Williams acted out as a youngster and wasn't much of a husband or father, but mellowed into a long term relationship with a good woman in his old age and was always very generous (think Jimmy Fund). Hornsby, Bonds, and Clemens were big jerks, but that's not so odd.

        Tremendous ballplayer, basically did everything EXTREMELY well except draw walks. But he knew the strike zone and almost never Ked, plus your OBP is still going to be pretty good if you hit .381.

        BTW - 1937.
        Not so unusual for Joe not to speak much with two established Yankees, being a young ball player on the way up. He was always the quite type and I would think even more so around the two Yankees, being a young ballplayer.
        There are many celebrated people who do not get along with their daughter/son father/mother, you choose the word ignored, you don't know the whole story. Can't recall their names at this time but a few fathers and son ballplayer who don't see eye to eye.

        Is that a big problem, being tight with the buck. Myself in my circle of friends some cheapskates and I let them know it, but they're not bad people.
        As for storing money all over the world, whats the source and proof and if true............whats the problem. Would you feel better if he stockpiled bucks in the USA.
        You know Dude, Joe was not mr wonderful but it's obvious from start to finish your on a rant to paint him black.

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