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An Olympics program on TV stated the 1992 US Basketball Dream Team is the greatest team in the history of team sports. Looking back at over 150 years of the best baseball teams that include All Star teams and World Tour teams, I am asking for your opinion as to what was the greatest baseball team ever assembled that you feel was better than the Dream Team?
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"He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
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Are you looking for a team which played over a short time run, such as a travelling squad of players? Or are you seeking a team which represents a longer time frame? Here are some possible teams for consideration:
1) Tris Speaker and a team filled with his peers from his heyday toured the world, somewhat late in his career but while Speaker was still at his peak. I forget the year, but it was discussed in the recent biography authored by Gay.
2) A team filled with the best players from the Negro Leagues which played well against AL/NL allstars might qualify.
3) 1928-1932 Philadelphia A's.
4) 1972-1974 Oakland A's
I would be inclined to choose the latter, but out of sentiment I would be biased.Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP
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The 1928 As and the 1934 AL all star team come to mind.
That As team had Cochrane, Cobb, Speaker, Collins, Foxx, Simmons, and Grove. Also Max Bishop. You could make a credible all time team with those guys, and only be lacking at third base and short.Comment
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The 2000 NL all star team has got to be the best.
If Mcgwire and Piazza weren't hurt, it may have been the best lineup ever.
1. Larkin
2.Jones
3. Guerrero
4. Mcgwire
5. Piazza
6.Sosa
7. Kent
8.Edmonds
9. Johnson
How good was this team?
on the BENCH they had Bonds, Griffey, Sheffield, Alfonso, and A Jones, Giles, and Helton, all of whom had MVP quality seasons.
Among their other starters were Maddux, Glavine and Brown
Jeff Bagwell, in the middle of a 47 132 .310 season, did not make the team. Tony Gwynn did not make the team. Moises Alou, who in the first half had a line of .359 .420 .657 did not make the team.
Keep in mind that, besides maybe Larkin, ALL of these guys were in their prime.Last edited by willshad; 07-21-2012, 07:52 PM.Comment
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Charles Barkley made the comment that the Dream Team had at least 10 Hall of Fame Players on it. I haven't taken time to check his statement.Originally posted by abolishthedh View Post
Yes, any baseball team that played for one or more games should be considered."He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
"You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."Comment
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Maybe we are looking for a team made up of Hall of Famers at nearly every position?Originally posted by willshad View Post"He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
"You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."Comment
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Well the 2000 NL all star team has a bunch of HOF quality players, but due to either steroids, or voter inability, most of them will not make it to the HOF in all likelihood.Originally posted by TonyK View Post
HOFers
Johnson
Maddux
Glavine
Piazza
Griffey
C Jones
Guerrero
Kent
Larkin
Borderline or steroid guys
A Jones
Bonds
Sosa
Mcgwire
Brown
Edmonds
Sheffield
Helton
Hoffman
Giles
That's 19 guys who had borderline Hof careers or better. Nearly all of them were in the prime of their careers. Every position has at least one HOFer.Last edited by willshad; 07-21-2012, 08:18 PM.Comment
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I think in one winter latin league Willie Mays Roberto Clemente and another famous big star played on the same team and as Bill james pointed out - they won the pennant
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they were so good they went winless losing the ASG 6-3Originally posted by willshad View Post
I guess the AL was full of super humans1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
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Well that AL team just may have been the second best team ever.Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
Alomar
Jeter
A-rod
I-rod
Giambi
Delgado
Manny
Ripken
Mcgriff
Bernie
Pedro
Rivera
Nomar
Edgar
Posada
They were kind of weak in the outfield, and starting pitching, however.Last edited by willshad; 07-21-2012, 08:30 PM.Comment
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I don't think I agree with the premise. The '92 Olympic basketball team wasn't really a team in the normal sense. They were not part of an organized league. The team wasn't put together by a shrewd GM through a draft, trades, or free agency. They were hand picked to play against vastly inferior competition for a tournament that lasted about two weeks.Originally posted by TonyK View PostStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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It's really hard to say just how good these basketball 'dream teams' really are. For the most part they are NBA all stars playing against guys who would not even make the NBA as bench players. Of course they are going to look unstoppable. The MLB all star teams are playing against other MLB all stars, so their competition is much greater.Comment
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sorry we disagreeOriginally posted by willshad View Post1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
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This is not correct. The Dream Team has 11 HOFers...and Christian Laettner. Had they gone with Shaq instead of Laettner, like most people wanted, it would have been 12 for 12. Barkley may have made that statement before Chris Mullin was rightfully inducted this past year.Originally posted by TonyK View PostLast edited by Bothrops Atrox; 07-21-2012, 08:51 PM.1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011
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And I wouldn't count a team put together by fans and one manager to compete in one game exhibition.Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
For a team competing in a tournament for an actual prize, the 1992 Dream Team would be hard to top...
For a whole season, how about a team comprised of:
Chris Chelios
Pavel Datsuk
Steve Duschene
Sergei Federov
Dominik Hasek
Brett Hull
Igor Larionov
Nick Lidstrom
Luc Robitille
Brendan Shannahan
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