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  • Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?

    Dougherty:

    1233 G
    5109 PA
    4558 AB
    678 R
    1294 H
    138 2B
    78 3B
    17 HR
    413 RBI
    261 SB
    378 BB
    458 K
    .284 BA
    .346 OBP
    .360 SLG
    .705 OPS
    117 OPS+
    1639 TB
    54 HBP
    119 SH
    15.5 WAR

    Bumbry:

    1496 G
    5619 PA
    5053 AB
    778 R
    1422 H
    220 2B
    52 3B
    54 HR
    402 RBI
    254 SB
    >= 92 CS
    471 BB
    709 K
    .281 BA
    .343 OBP
    .378 SLG
    .721 OPS
    104 OPS+
    1908 TB
    74 GDP
    21 HBP
    44 SH
    30 SF
    30 IBB
    22.3 WAR

    If Dougherty wins, he will face his fourth-most similar comp's sixth-most similar comp. If Bumbry wins, he will face his most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    6
    Patsy Dougherty
    66.67%
    4
    Al Bumbry
    33.33%
    2

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    I'm going to have to ponder this one. Dougherty has the OPS+ advantage and black ink. Bumbry the WAR and presumably the caliber of competition of the 70s-80s AL was higher than the newly formed AL in the 00s.

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    • #3
      I went with Dougherty on this one, though it was really, really close.

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      • #4
        I think I will go with Dougherty as well. Bumbry seemed to have gotten over the injruy/platoon issues just when he was coming past his prime. Bumbry gets a big boost on baserunning. In fact his runs as I figure it on WAR are 40 batting 20 baserunning 15 (avoiding) DPs. Dougerty either from lack of data or otherwise is 92 batting 3 baserunning (or is it base on error) 0 on DPs. So despite a qualm about the league quality the difference between them is too large. My take is Dougherty is one of the best OFs in the league Bumbry some years might be in the mix for next best 5-6 CF in the AL.

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        • #5
          This one was a tough decision for me. I actually made a list of 'points' where I weighed various aspects of their careers to help decide which was better. Bumbry actually ended up with one more point than did Dougherty, but I went with Dougherty nevertheless.

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