Magglio Ordonez vs Carlos Delgado

[Sockeye]

I'm going to run a series of polls with the winner advancing each time to face another opponent. Will leave each poll up for a week. I'll try to provide as much statistical information as possible. Hopefully we can get some lively insightful debates going and bring to light some overlooked players from yesteryear.
If you could pick between these two players to start your franchise with which would you pick? Please consider all relavent information. Their careers as a whole, peak performance, hitting, fielding, baserunning, positional value, league quality, etc.

Magglio Ordonez

1848 games
7745 plate appearances
6978 at-bats
1076 runs
2156 hits
426 doubles
21 triples
294 home runs
1236 RBI
94 stolen bases
50 caught stealing
651 walks
852 strikeouts
.309 AVG
.369 OBP
.502 SLG
.871 OPS
125 OPS+
3506 total bases
1251 runs created
6.4 RC/G
109 AIR
.607 OW%
.830 Total Average
.293 Secondary Average
241.1 Win Shares
108.3 WSAB
34.6 rWAR
35.9 fWAR
34.7 sWAR

Carlos Delgado

2035 games
8657 plate appearances
7283 at-bats
1241 runs
2038 hits
483 doubles
18 triples
473 home runs
1512 RBI
14 stolen bases
8 caught stealing
1109 walks
1745 strikeouts
.280 AVG
.383 OBP
.546 SLG
.929 OPS
138 OPS+
3976 total bases
1588 runs created
7.7 RC/G
110 AIR
.678 OW%
.974 Total Average
.419 Secondary Average
303.8 Win Shares
161.2 WSAB
40.4 rWAR
46.3 fWAR
47.7 sWAR

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[chicagowhitesox1173]

I always liked Magglio but I would have to say Delgado was better for a longer period.

[Blue387]

I liked Carlos Delgado, don't know why.

[Captain Cold Nose]

This one's close. Ordonez had a nice career but he was becoming a superstar before the injuries and he became just a very good contributing player. Delgado had a better career.

[GiambiJuice]

Carlos Delgado.

I'll never understand why he stopped playing when he did. He was a lock for 500 home runs.

In a 13-year period (1996-2008), he hit 457 home runs and 1454 RBI. How many players in history have matched those numbers in any 13-year stretch?

[Dude Paskert]

Jeez, Delgado had 99 XBHs in 2000...I never would have guessed that.
I remember he was a catcher in the minors and there was a lot of buzz that he should be moved to take advantage of his bat ASAP. Toronto did move him, but some at the time thought it took too long and he never should have played there in the first place.

[Cowtipper]

Carlos Delgado.

I'll never understand why he stopped playing when he did. He was a lock for 500 home runs.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't his choice...no one wanted to sign him if I recall.

[GiambiJuice]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't his choice...no one wanted to sign him if I recall.

I'm sure he would have had plenty of suitors....at the right price. I think he wanted too much money and when he realized he wouldn't get it from anyone, decided that it wasn't worth is while to sign with anyone.

[Cowtipper]

The Red Sox actually did sign him in 2010, come to think of it. I remember, because I was excited and thought he'd make his way to 500 dingers. He spent only a few games with Pawtucket and struggled.

[PVNICK]

Didn't he have some sort of major hip injury?

[Brooklyn]

Carlos Delgado.

I'll never understand why he stopped playing when he did. He was a lock for 500 home runs.

In a 13-year period (1996-2008), he hit 457 home runs and 1454 RBI. How many players in history have matched those numbers in any 13-year stretch?

Players who have hit 457 home runs over a 13 year period (Number shown below is their best 13 year period)

- Aaron. 499
- Bonds. 561
- Delgado. 457
- Foxx. 503
- Gehrig. 472
- Griffey. 460
- Killebrew. 504
- Mays. 518
- McGwire. 470
- Palmeiro. 481
- Ramirez. 471
- A-Rod. 549
- Ruth. 603
- Schmidt. 476
- Sosa. 551
- thome. 486

Players who have had 1454 RBIs over a 13 year period:

- Aaron - 1472
- Delgado. 1454
- Foxx. 1520
- Gehrig. 1912
- Ott. 1455
- Ramirez. 1539
- A-Rod. 1603
- Ruth. 1788
- simmons. 1570

Players that have done both over the same 13 year period:

- Aaron
- Delgado
- Foxx
- Gehrig
- Ramirez
- A-Rod
- Ruth

While these numbers are obviusly arbitrary and picked to meet his career numbers, this is pretty impressive company

[GiambiJuice]

Players who have hit 457 home runs over a 13 year period (Number shown below is their best 13 year period)

- Aaron. 499
- Bonds. 561
- Delgado. 457
- Foxx. 503
- Gehrig. 472
- Griffey. 460
- Killebrew. 504
- Mays. 518
- McGwire. 470
- Palmeiro. 481
- Ramirez. 471
- A-Rod. 549
- Ruth. 603
- Schmidt. 476
- Sosa. 551
- thome. 486

Players who have had 1454 RBIs over a 13 year period:

- Aaron - 1472
- Delgado. 1454
- Foxx. 1520
- Gehrig. 1912
- Ott. 1455
- Ramirez. 1539
- A-Rod. 1603
- Ruth. 1788
- simmons. 1570

Players that have done both over the same 13 year period:

- Aaron
- Delgado
- Foxx
- Gehrig
- Ramirez
- A-Rod
- Ruth

While these numbers are obviusly arbitrary and picked to meet his career numbers, this is pretty impressive company

Good work, thanks.

Isn't Dimaggio missing from the RBIs list?