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  • One-Pitch Hurlers

    I made a thread about this same thing in 2010 with the same title. However, it has been archived so I can't quote or add on to it. I hope the mods and the People of the Fever don't mind my reopening.

    I've always been amazed by the pitcher who gets by using just one pitch. No pitcher has ever exclusively thrown one pitch 100% of the time, but there are those who have thrown a particular pitch thousands of times, enough to have composed of a vast majority of their total major league throws. Every batter knows what's coming, what it's going to do, yet this pitcher still triumphs. Amazing.

    I salute those who've absolutely mastered a pitch.

    Walter Johnson: fastball. I'm not even going to bother bringing up quotes and tales about the fastball. The pitch was thrown so fast from such an awkward angle that it enabled Johnson to dominate like no pitcher ever has. Only Smoky Joe Wood may have been faster in this era. Nap Rucker can be found saying that Johnson had "more stuff than [he] ever saw in a pitcher," though I'm unsure if that means repertoire or skill. My guess is repertoire because Johnson could probably do different things with it. What's interesting are the accounts of his curveball, which he developed around 1913. Some players have described it as a dinky loop, like Eddie Collins when he said, "Walter had a habit of throwing his curve ball whenever he got two strikes...he didn't have a curve, just a wrinkle. So I'd take two strikes and look for that little curve."

    Others have said that it's speed and sudden, though rather lesser, break made it very effective. Johnson himself said that it had "proved serviceable" to him. If the heat wasn't doing the trick, he'd throw a curve.

    Mariano Rivera: cutter. Not much else to say.

    Kid Nichols: fastball. Reds scout Al Chapman best sums up my second paragraph when he wrote, “There have been a few pitchers in the history of baseball who could ‘get by’ with nothing more than a good fastball. I remember seeing Charlie Nichols...go through nine innings with just four curves and all the rest fast balls. Asked on one occasion why he threw so few curves, Charlie replied, ‘They say the batters like speed. Well, maybe they do if you don’t give them too much. I figure I’ve got that little too much.’” This goes along the lines of Regie Jackson’s quote on Nolan Ryan: “Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when Nolan Ryan’s throwing balls by you."

    Nichols is said to have had a swift, fluid delivery for his jumping fastball. Great control helped him notch 300 wins. It’s possible that he could make it do different things given his era of pitch experimenting.

    Goose Gossage: fastball. Though he had a changeup and slurve, Gossage used the fastball very often.

    Bruce Sutter: splitter. Without it, Sutter claims he would never have made it out of AA ball. It appeared to come in as a strike, but according to Tim McCarver, Sutter rarely threw it for a strike. The splitter could come on any count.

    Bob Lemon: slider. I’m actually unsure how often Lemon threw it, but I do have Roger Angell saying that Lemon may have been the first man to have pitched his way into the HoF using a slider. I do know that Lemon had a sinking fastball and curve. Maybe he doesn’t belong here.

    That’s all I have for now. Anyone else care to contribute?
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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    Hoyt Wilhelm: knuckler
    Wilbur Wood: knuckler
    Charlie Hough: knuckler

    There's some disagreement, but it seems that to throw the knuckleball well you have to throw it most of the time. (One of my favorite trivia facts: the 1945 Washington Senators had an all-knuckleballer starting rotation - and almost won the pennant.)

    Iron Man McGinnity: "Old Sal", an underarm curveball
    Last edited by westsidegrounds; 08-18-2012, 02:42 PM.

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    • #3
      Sinker Ball pitchers include from the past Tommy John and today we have Jonny Venters.

      They come close to what you are talking about.
      Your Second Base Coach
      Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Second Base Coach View Post
        Sinker Ball pitchers include from the past Tommy John and today we have Jonny Venters.

        They come close to what you are talking about.
        As does Brandon Webb, though he later developed a slow curve and good changeup
        "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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        • #5
          Forkball (NOT the split-fingered fastball, but an offspeed pitch) - Roy Face

          Screwball - Carl Hubbell, Willie Hernandez

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gee Walker View Post
            Forkball (NOT the split-fingered fastball, but an offspeed pitch) - Roy Face
            Yeah, but Face was not a one pitch pitcher. He was famous for his forkball but he also threw a lot of fastballs. The forkball often was his out pitch, but I think he threw it at most 50% of the time- I saw him pitch quite a bit. But, I'm guessing on the percentages, to be honest.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by westsidegrounds View Post
              Hoyt Wilhelm: knuckler
              Wilbur Wood: knuckler
              Charlie Hough: knuckler

              There's some disagreement, but it seems that to throw the knuckleball well you have to throw it most of the time. (One of my favorite trivia facts: the 1945 Washington Senators had an all-knuckleballer starting rotation - and almost won the pennant.)
              ...
              I'm pretty sure Joe Niekro threw a variety of pitches (including the sandpaper ball) but was still able to keep a good knuckler going.

              Wasn't Stu Miller famous for throwing changes, changes off his changes, and changes off the latter?
              I'm sure the guy must have popped a fastball in there once in a while, but probably not too many. He was a reliever and could probably get by with mostly changes.
              "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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              • #8
                Originally posted by westsidegrounds View Post
                There's some disagreement, but it seems that to throw the knuckleball well you have to throw it most of the time.
                Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
                I'm pretty sure Joe Niekro threw a variety of pitches but was still able to keep a good knuckler going.
                so I guess that falls into the "some disagreement" category then?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by westsidegrounds View Post
                  so I guess that falls into the "some disagreement" category then?
                  Niekro developed the knuckler later in his career. Also, he wasn't that great of a pitcher.

                  The knuckleball has been known to be part of a repertoire. Early Wynn, Rip Sewell, and Eddie Cicotte developed them but never used them as a primary pitch
                  "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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                  • #10
                    Big Ed Walsh had an amazing spitball; one that would make Gaylord Perry proud.

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