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  • Ron LeFlore vs. Dan Gladden

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?

    LeFlore:

    1099 G
    4872 PA
    4458 AB
    731 R
    1283 H
    172 2B
    57 3B
    59 HR
    353 RBI
    455 SB
    142 CS
    363 BB
    888 K
    .288 BA
    .342 OBP
    .392 SLG
    .734 OPS
    104 OPS+
    1746 TB
    73 GDP
    17 HBP
    14 SH
    20 SF
    15 IBB
    16.3 WAR

    Gladden:

    1197 G
    4962 PA
    4501 AB
    663 R
    1215 H
    203 2B
    40 3B
    74 HR
    446 RBI
    222 SB
    93 CS
    337 BB
    625 K
    .270 BA
    .324 OBP
    .382 SLG
    .707 OPS
    95 OPS+
    1720 TB
    98 GDP
    42 HBP
    49 SH
    33 SF
    18 IBB
    13.6 WAR

    If LeFlore wins, he will face his sixth-most similar comp's eighth-most similar comp. If Gladden wins, he will face his most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ron LeFlore
    Ron LeFlore vs. Mookie Wilson
    8
    Ron LeFlore
    100.00%
    8
    Dan Gladden
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    I pick Leflore
    "The first draft of anything is crap." - Ernest Hemingway

    There's no such thing as an ultimate stat.

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    • #3
      Ron LefLore has to be one of the most most naturally gifted ballplayers in baseball history. As far as I can tell LeFlore didn't play any organized baseball until he went to prison. He meets Billy Martin and signs with the Tigers in the summer of 1973. He debuts with the Tigers on August 1, 1974. I find that truly amazing.
      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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      • #4
        I'm going with LeFlore on this one.

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        • #5
          I picked Leflore also.
          "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

          "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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          • #6
            I shall do the same.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
              Ron LefLore has to be one of the most most naturally gifted ballplayers in baseball history. As far as I can tell LeFlore didn't play any organized baseball until he went to prison. He meets Billy Martin and signs with the Tigers in the summer of 1973. He debuts with the Tigers on August 1, 1974. I find that truly amazing.
              What was Billy in for?

              I agree 100%, so very unlikely that LeFlore should have been able to even have a ML career at all given his circumstances and actions, and he actually had a pretty good one.
              "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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              • #8
                Ron LeFlore by much. Surprised they're comps, since LeFlore was much quicker.
                "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                George Brett

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