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  • Which MVP 1965 Mays, 1966 F. Robinson or 1967 Yastrzemski had the best year?

    Which MVP 1965 Mays, 1966 F. Robinson or 1967 Yastrzemski had the best year?
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    1965 Willie Mays
    25.00%
    4
    1966 Frank Robinson
    12.50%
    2
    196 Carl Yastrzemski
    62.50%
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  • #2
    Yaz 1967 was one of the most deserving MVP seasons ever. Is not even close.
    "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
    George Brett

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    • #3
      Wow, this is a really tough one! I have to think about it.
      My top 10 players:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Barry Bonds
      3. Ty Cobb
      4. Ted Williams
      5. Willie Mays
      6. Alex Rodriguez
      7. Hank Aaron
      8. Honus Wagner
      9. Lou Gehrig
      10. Mickey Mantle

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      • #4
        I was into BBF that time that I'd answer so fast...
        "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
        George Brett

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        • #5
          Like choosing between 3 excellent wines. I'll say this, I can't think of any player in my lifetime who did more for his team than Yaz in 67. It seemed like Boston was on virtually every Saturday afternoon on the NBC GOTW, at least the last 2 months of the season and Yaz sure seemed to get a lot of big hits, as he also would in the WS. Without him, a 2nd division team. 1970 was the only other season he put up a TC type season. Mays and Robinson had a bunch of them.
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          • #6
            Mays' all around game puts him on top
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            • #7
              Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
              Mays' all around game puts him on top
              Was Mays still Mays in Center and on the basepaths in 1965?
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              • #8
                This is really tough. It is always tough to bet against Mays. Yet Yaz had a historic triple crown season topped off with tons of WAR. However, Robinson actually gets my vote, even though he doesn't win this sabermetrically. Robo was ticked off when he was traded and darn near played with Cobbian efforts to prove the Reds wrong. I believe his efforts were contagious. The Orioles caught fire and won the WS in 4 games over the mighty Dodgers. So not only did Robinson end up a 198 OPS+ with 49 HRS and a triple crown en route to the MVP, but he put up an OPS north of 1.200 in the WS to win that MVP as well.

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                • #9
                  If we include postseason, it's got to be Frank Robinson. Not only did he dominate offensively during the regular season (winning the Triple Crown as Yaz did in '67) but he won the World Series MVP as well.

                  As great as Willie's season was, for me it comes down to Robinson and Yaz. Both carried their teams to the pennant wins and won the Triple Crown, which is nice extra feather in the cap.

                  Ultimately, I've decided to go with Yaz. He came one game short of winning the WS but the way he carried that team down the stretch in September is the stuff of legend.
                  My top 10 players:

                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Barry Bonds
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Ted Williams
                  5. Willie Mays
                  6. Alex Rodriguez
                  7. Hank Aaron
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Lou Gehrig
                  10. Mickey Mantle

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                  • #10
                    In Yaz's favor against Robinson, he also won the Gold Glove
                    "The first draft of anything is crap." - Ernest Hemingway

                    There's no such thing as an ultimate stat.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
                      Was Mays still Mays in Center and on the basepaths in 1965?
                      Yes- as I remember, Mays retained essentially all of his quickness, speed, and other attributes in 1965. I'd guess that a slow decline of his abilities started around 1967, though he was still an outstanding player for several more years.

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                      • #12
                        Something tells me its gotta be Yaz, but we're missing something about F Robbie's great '66, its not referenced as much as you'd think.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                          If we include postseason, it's got to be Frank Robinson. Not only did he dominate offensively during the regular season (winning the Triple Crown as Yaz did in '67) but he won the World Series MVP as well.

                          As great as Willie's season was, for me it comes down to Robinson and Yaz. Both carried their teams to the pennant wins and won the Triple Crown, which is nice extra feather in the cap.

                          Ultimately, I've decided to go with Yaz. He came one game short of winning the WS but the way he carried that team down the stretch in September is the stuff of legend.
                          Yeah, as much as I always loved Yaz growing up, I gotta go with the guy who got the ring.
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                          • #14
                            I have to take Yaz here.
                            "The first draft of anything is crap." - Ernest Hemingway

                            There's no such thing as an ultimate stat.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Herr28 View Post
                              Yeah, as much as I always loved Yaz growing up, I gotta go with the guy who got the ring.
                              But you didn't vote.
                              My top 10 players:

                              1. Babe Ruth
                              2. Barry Bonds
                              3. Ty Cobb
                              4. Ted Williams
                              5. Willie Mays
                              6. Alex Rodriguez
                              7. Hank Aaron
                              8. Honus Wagner
                              9. Lou Gehrig
                              10. Mickey Mantle

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