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  • Best 1970 SF Giant

    nominees

    Bobby Bonds
    .302/.375/.504
    26 HR 10 3B 36 2B 77 BB 83 RBI

    Dick Dietz
    .300/.426/.515
    22 HR 2 3B 36 2B 109 BB 107 RBI

    Willie Mays
    .291/.390/.50
    28 HR 2 3B 15 2B 79 BB 83 RBI

    Willie McCovey
    .289/.444/.612
    39 HR 2 3B 39 2B 137 BB 126 RBI

    Gaylord Perry
    23-13 3.20 ERA 329 IP
    23 CG 214 K 1.14 WHIP
    14
    Bobby Bonds
    7.14%
    1
    Dick Dietz
    14.29%
    2
    Willie Mays
    7.14%
    1
    Willie McCovey
    64.29%
    9
    Gaylord Perry
    7.14%
    1
    other (name him)
    0.00%
    0
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
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  • #2
    --Dick Deitz really put it together that season. He always had a good eye and pretty good power, but lack of contact and questionable skills behind the plate had kept him from being much of anything before this year (or much after either). One of the great fluke seasons. That said McCovey had a monster season and has to be the choice here.

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    • #3
      McCovey by a wide margin.
      "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
      George Brett

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      • #4
        McCovey is my choice.
        “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

        "Fill in any figure you want for that boy (Mantle). Whatever the figure, it's a deal." - Branch Rickey

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        • #5
          Bobby Bonds was a force of nature in 1970. He gets my vote.

          134 runs

          200 hits

          48 SB

          334 TB

          besides his
          .302/.375/.504
          26 HR 10 3B 36 2B 77 BB 83 RBI
          Last edited by JR Hart; 09-02-2012, 08:26 PM.
          This week's Giant

          #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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          • #6
            lol I never realized your moniker was for Jim Ray Hart
            1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
            2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
            3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
              lol I never realized your moniker was for Jim Ray Hart
              Oh yeah I lived and died with the Giants in the 60s and 70s
              This week's Giant

              #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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              • #8
                I remember getting his autograph circa 1967-68. The Giants used to play the college Santa Clara Broncos in an exhibition every spring at the Broncos Stadium and I was a little baseball pheenom in Santa Clara and was allowed to go these games. I can remember meeting Willie Mays and getting his autograph, I think my mom was more nervous than I was - this was almost a 1 on 1 meeting - well 2 on 1 as my mom was there, but not with him reaching through a bunch of kids over a fence or dugout, literally standing toe to toe with him As she was coaching me what to say, he stood there with a big smile on his face.

                One year, JRH was walking from the dugout down to the bullpen and all the kids were screaming "Jimmie. Jimmie" and he kept walking, I called out "Mr. Hart" and he stopped turned around and gave me an autograph.

                I think he is forgotten but for a few years he was a top slugger in the NL, especially for a 3B.
                Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 09-02-2012, 09:18 PM.
                1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
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                • #9
                  It's a damn shame to not give it to Bonds (134 Runs 200+ hit 48 Sb + that slash line!), Dietz or Perry but McCovey is the man. I hope this team finished a close second to the Reds or else the other 20 guys really spit the bit.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                    It's a damn shame to not give it to Bonds (134 Runs 200+ hit 48 Sb + that slash line!), Dietz or Perry but McCovey is the man. I hope this team finished a close second to the Reds or else the other 20 guys really spit the bit.
                    they finished 3rd, I do believe they had the most runs scored of any team for like 15 years fom the early 60s to the late 70s, until a AL DH team finally beat them, 831 runs as I recall

                    their defense was so-so and their pitching was pretty bad
                    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      I decided to vote for DIetz, McCovey had an excellent year but was down a few notches from 1969.

                      Dietz did things a C rarely combines, hit .300, drove in 100 runs and had 100 BB
                      1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                      2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                      3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                      • #12
                        That would be like giving the MVP to Jeff Kent on a monstrous Barry Bonds season, Roy. And it did happen. Dietz had a great season. And he played a premium position. But the best player in the team was McCovey. In 1970, McCovey was the 4th hitter, while Ken Henderson and Dick Dietz batted 5th or 6th. They each had their best seasons (although Henderson had 1974 too). This wasn't coincidence, when playing alongside a premium player, pitchers tend to throw better pitches to the teammates. Not saying Dietz didn't have a good season.
                        "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                        George Brett

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                        • #13
                          ^ it certainly was a sentimental choice
                          1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                          2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                          3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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