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    I was wondering if anyone knows if the players like Ted Williams and Bob Feller were compensated by their teams during the war?

    I believe the teams that they were on prior to the war owned their rights when they came back from the war (correct me if I'm wrong) but I didn't know if the players were at all compensated by their teams while they were off fighting in the wars.

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    Once the draft started in 1940 players who went in the military were inactivated and placed on the National Defense list. Because of the reserve clause they belonged to the team that put on the list. I doubt if any player was released outright. as had happened during WWI. I haven't seen any mentioned of a player being compensated by his team while he served in the military. Usually you would hear about players giving up their $10,000 a year salary to become a $21 a month private or seaman.

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      I know that part of the reason Joe D was very reluctant to sign up was because he would lose his salary...Dorothy Arnold thought it would be bad for her acting career to be married to a "coward" and pressured him to join. According to Cramer, Joe cried when he finally gave in.
      I know that my father sure wasn't paid when he was off for WWII, but at least his job was held. He was in the machinery refurbishing business and things boomed from just after WWII (due to so much surplus equipment) until the early 70's (when computerized Japanese machinery wiped out his market).
      "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
        I know that part of the reason Joe D was very reluctant to sign up was because he would lose his salary...Dorothy Arnold thought it would be bad for her acting career to be married to a "coward" and pressured him to join. According to Cramer, Joe cried when he finally gave in.I know that my father sure wasn't paid when he was off for WWII, but at least his job was held. He was in the machinery refurbishing business and things boomed from just after WWII (due to so much surplus equipment) until the early 70's (when computerized Japanese machinery wiped out his market).
        I don't know Dude, I don't believe all that I Read. Did Joe or Dorothy tell this story..................was Cramer in the room, listening to their conversation. I have no idea how some authors of bio's know stuff like this for fact, private conversations............I ask again, was he present at the time.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
          I don't know Dude, I don't believe all that I Read. Did Joe or Dorothy tell this story..................was Cramer in the room, listening to their conversation. I have no idea how some authors of bio's know stuff like this for fact, private conversations............I ask again, was he present at the time.
          A lot of the information about Joe vs. Dorothy must have come from Arnold herself or a close family member. I'm not sure if Dorothy may have written memoirs that were not well known or even published, Cramer interviewed someone in her family or got notes from Dorothy being interviewed, or what. If I still have the book (I usually donate stuff like that to my local library when I'm done), I'll see if there are any footnotes.
          I can't personally vouch for this being accurate, but I know that Cramer gets very deep into his bios...he visited Ted Williams' house, went fishing with him, etc.
          "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
            A lot of the information about Joe vs. Dorothy must have come from Arnold herself or a close family member. I'm not sure if Dorothy may have written memoirs that were not well known or even published, Cramer interviewed someone in her family or got notes from Dorothy being interviewed, or what. If I still have the book (I usually donate stuff like that to my local library when I'm done), I'll see if there are any footnotes.
            I can't personally vouch for this being accurate, but I know that Cramer gets very deep into his bios...he visited Ted Williams' house, went fishing with him, etc.
            Possible, I view all bios the same way, not just Joe's. I always wonder how private conversations can be known to the author if neither party reveals it later. I do believe many authors, even the good one take some liberty with so called facts.

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            • #7
              I remember seeing Johnny Berardino play before WW II interrupted his career. He was a pretty solid SS and batted around .260-.270 for the St' Louis Browns. He also expressed at some point an interest in acting after his baseball days were over.

              I followed him after the War and took an interest in his acting career, getting enthusiastic when he had a part in "Them," a sci fi thriller about 8' mutated ants. Eventually, he landed a huge gig [with years amd years of longevity] as Dr. Hardy, Chief of Staff of "General Hospital" [the soap].

              In the 1980's we watched "Baseball: When It Was a Game." During WW II [1944] when his Browns faced the Cards in the Brown's ONLY World Series, Berardino recalled wondering if his old team would remember him. He got a package in the mail: A custom-made deck of playing cards, with the Browns' logo ... that was his "remembrance."

              I recall the wry look on Berardino's face when he explained what he did with those cards.

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