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Terry Puhl vs. Jerry Mumphrey

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  • Terry Puhl vs. Jerry Mumphrey

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?


    1531 G
    5480 PA
    4855 AB
    676 R
    1361 H
    226 2B
    56 3B
    62 HR
    435 RBI
    217 SB
    99 CS
    505 BB
    507 K
    .280 BA
    .349 OBP
    .388 SLG
    .737 OPS
    112 OPS+
    1885 TB
    59 GDP
    26 HBP
    57 SH
    36 SF
    49 IBB
    26.2 WAR


    1585 G
    5545 PA
    4993 AB
    660 R
    1442 H
    217 2B
    55 3B
    70 HR
    575 RBI
    174 SB
    80 CS
    478 BB
    688 K
    .289 BA
    .349 OBP
    .396 SLG
    .745 OPS
    108 OPS+
    1979 TB
    108 GDP
    4 HBP
    29 SH
    41 SF
    49 IBB
    20.3 WAR

    If Puhl wins, he will face his fifth-most similar comp. If Mumphrey wins, he will face his second-most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ron LeFlore
    Ron LeFlore vs. Mookie Wilson
    Ron LeFlore vs. Dan Gladden
    Ron LeFlore vs. Doug Glanville
    Ron LeFlore vs. Taylor Douthit
    Ron LeFlore vs. Terry Puhl
    Terry Puhl
    Jerry Mumphrey

    The poll is expired.

  • #2
    Puhl by a small margin.


    • #3
      This is very hard. I'm really looking forward to learming how people would make up their minds on this one. Their offensive WAR is the same, I guess because Mumphrey's twice as many GIDP offset his slight slash line advantage and his lower scoring era.

      Even though Mumphrey played a lot more center field, Puhl has what looks to me like very small advantages in out%, holds, and kills, and this accounts for their difference in overall WAR. Is this something you can really rely on? "By golly, Puhl was 2% above average and Mumphrey 2% below average in holds, so I'm going with Puhl"?

      I have no idea. Someone enlighten me please.
      Indeed the first step toward finding out is to acknowledge you do not satisfactorily know already; so that no blight can so surely arrest all intellectual growth as the blight of cocksureness.--CS Peirce


      • #4
        I agree that this one is tough. I'm not sure who I'll settle on.

        Edit: WAR pushed Puhl just a little higher.
        "The first draft of anything is crap." - Ernest Hemingway

        There's no such thing as an ultimate stat.


        • #5
          Besides being a better player, being Canadian made voting for Puhl a no-brainer. :-)
          Dave Kent


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