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  • Los Bravos
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    He'd be the first guy in history to be beaned, then get up and say "Yeah...whatever, dude." and just go to first.

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  • Jackaroo Dave
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    Well, he'll already be aflame.

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  • Dude Paskert
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    Originally posted by Jackaroo Dave View Post
    Thanks. I'm guilty too, and for our sins we will spend eternity in box seats in Hell Stadium watching Nolan Ryan pitch to Adam Dunn.
    When Ryan eventually threw at Dunn's head (you know he would), would Adam actually get fired up enough to go annihilate the Express?

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  • Jackaroo Dave
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    Originally posted by Los Bravos View Post
    That's a good list.

    Ryan is underrated here (I'm guilty of it myself) and overrated out in the wider world.
    Thanks. I'm guilty too, and for our sins we will spend eternity in box seats in Hell Stadium watching Nolan Ryan pitch to Adam Dunn.

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  • Los Bravos
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    That's a good list.

    Ryan is underrated here (I'm guilty of it myself) and overrated out in the wider world.

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  • Jackaroo Dave
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    Oh, what the heck:

    Sutton, P. Niekro, Blyleven, Ryan, G. Perry, all underrated. Cy Young, too, at a higher level, way underrated.

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  • Los Bravos
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    Just write "ibid." It'll save you time.

    And dgarza is right. Middle guys are important in the modern game but get less respect than pretty much anybody else in uniform.

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    Bert Blyleven

    22 yeaRS
    2 asg
    1 20 GAME SEASON

    DEFINITION OF A COMPILER

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  • dgarza
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    Underrated -
    Relievers like Jesse Orosco, Tom Gordon, Mark Eichhorn, Keith Foulke, Bob Stanley (believe it or not)

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  • Los Bravos
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    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
    this is the definition of a compiler
    The notion behind the term "compiler" being some sort of pejorative is itself foolish. That's perfectly clear from my post.

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  • 1905 Giants
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    Back to the point of this thread, I never hear much about Rod Carew, but looking at his stats he was a pretty darn good ballplayer.

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  • 1905 Giants
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    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
    which is irrelevant in a discussion on Bert Blyleven

    Roberts was a 7 time AS and received MVP voting in 7 years

    compared to 2 and 2 for Bert
    Well, I'm not saying I'm a big Blyleven fan, because I'm not. My point instead was that giving up a lot of homeruns doesn't make for a bad pitcher necessarily.

    For the Record Blyleven is currently 8th on the all-time list, behind (in order): Moyer, Roberts, Jenkins, Niekro, Sutton, Tanana, and Spahn.
    Last edited by 1905 Giants; 09-21-2012, 04:14 PM.

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  • JR Hart
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    Actually, I should have listed Blyleven among the afforementioned compilers. He certainly was one. Bert probably had better stuff than the other 3. And because Perry isn't as much of a compiler as Bert, doesn't mean that he wasn't one. He still was.

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
    So did Robin Roberts for a long time, and he had 6 20 win seasons, was a 7 time all-star, and was tops in pitcher WAR 6 times.
    which is irrelevant in a discussion on Bert Blyleven

    Roberts was a 7 time AS and received MVP voting in 7 years

    compared to 2 and 2 for Bert

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  • 1905 Giants
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    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
    BTW, didn't Blyleven lead the world in HR allowed>?
    So did Robin Roberts for a long time, and he had 6 20 win seasons, was a 7 time all-star, and was tops in pitcher WAR 6 times.

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