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    I saw this today. Enjoy.

    Sports heroes from our childhood never lose their power over us, even long after we grow up.
    Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 09-25-2012, 01:45 PM. Reason: Changed thread title
    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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    Bump. Al Rosen passed away this past Saturday. RIP Mr. Rosen.

    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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    • #3
      Rosen was a great and oft-forgotten player. Everyone knows about his wonderful 1953 campaign, but how many people know that he led the league in HR's three years prior to that...or that he had 100+ RBI in five straight years...
      My top 10 players:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Barry Bonds
      3. Ty Cobb
      4. Ted Williams
      5. Willie Mays
      6. Alex Rodriguez
      7. Hank Aaron
      8. Honus Wagner
      9. Lou Gehrig
      10. Mickey Mantle

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      • #4
        Al Rosen: A great 'what if' career

        As a Giants fan I actually associate Rosen more as the Giants GM (1985-92) who turned the team around. The Giants lost 100 games in 1985 and in 1986 the Giants were contending for the NL West title (were in first place into August). This was due to Rosen hiring Roger Craig to manage the team and drafting Will Cark in 1985. Rosen also drafted Matt Williams in 1986. The Giants won NL West titles in 1987 and 1989 plus the NL pennant in 1989. The 1993 team won 103 games and many of the key players (minus Barry Bonds) were drafted under Rosen.
        Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-16-2015, 11:08 AM.
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Dan Szymborski did a ZiPS project for Rosen. This is how a full career may have played out for Rosen. Is this a HoF third baseman?


          Rosen ZiPS.png
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #6
            Awesome hitter for some years. What ended his career so suddenly?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bucketfoot View Post
              Awesome hitter for some years. What ended his career so suddenly?
              Back injury I think.

              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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              • #8
                As GM, Al Rosen had an AMAZING impact on the San Francisco Giants. Grant Brisbee details Rosen's best move as Giants GM.

                Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 05-22-2015, 02:01 PM.
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #9
                  It's threads like these with stories and basic stats (not the extreme stats threads) that I joined BBF.

                  Thanks Honus.

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                  • #10
                    Good post. Regarding the year 1953, Rosen came within one hit of winning the Triple Crown. I was ten that year and I remember the "Hammering Hebrew!" RIP

                    Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                    Rosen was a great and oft-forgotten player. Everyone knows about his wonderful 1953 campaign, but how many people know that he led the league in HR's three years prior to that...or that he had 100+ RBI in five straight years...
                    ". . . the Ruth, the whole Ruth and nothing but the Ruth . . ."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by scribbs View Post
                      It's threads like these with stories and basic stats (not the extreme stats threads) that I joined BBF.

                      Thanks Honus.
                      You're welcome scribbs. The 1984-85 seasons were down years for the Giants losing 96 and 100 games, respectively. To this day the 1985 season is still the only 100 loss season in Giants history. Being a Giants fans back then was tough. The team sucked and Candlestick Park was usually cold, dreary, and half empty. In 1985 attendance bottomed out to just 818,697 people. Then Rosen comes in September 1985 and literally cleans house. His first task was hiring Roger Craig away from the Houston Astros. In 1986 the Giants were actually contenders being in first as late as July 20 before a rash of injuries derailed their season. Bill James wrote this in the 1987 Baseball Abstract reviewing the Giants 1986 season. Interestingly, the Giants under performed relative to their run differential. They finished with an 83-79 record but had a 90-72 expected record.


                      1986 Giants BJBA.jpg
                      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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