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  • Is Boston's LF the Strongest Position in History?

    The Red Sox are famous for boasting the greatest LF in history. If you try to compile an all-time roster, you end up with Williams or Ramirez at DH and leaving out Rice and Duffy Lewis. Is this position the strongest, most "depthful" of any team in history?

    The only power that can contend (off the top of my head) is New York's center field. That is, NEW YORK, not necessarily just the Yankees. At one time, Mays, Mantle, and Snider all patrolled center in the same city at the same time. There is also Joe DiMaggio, Bernie Williams, and Carlos Beltran.

    Pittsburgh boasts Wagner and Vaughan at shortstop. The rest fall a little short: Jay Bell, Jack Wilson, Dick Groat, Gene Alley.
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

  • #2
    Hard to beat Boston LF: Williams, Yaz, Manny, Rice, Greenwell

    But Braves have a pitching tradition that can rival Boston's LF.

    Kid Nichols
    Warren Spahn
    Phil Niekro
    Greg Maddux
    John Smoltz
    Tom Glavine
    Vic Willis
    John Clarkson
    Last edited by dgarza; 09-28-2012, 10:18 AM.

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    • #3
      The Cardinals first baseman might have em beat too.

      Musial
      Mize
      Pujols
      Hernandez
      Bottomley
      White
      Cepeda
      "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

      "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post

        The only power that can contend (off the top of my head) is New York's center field. That is, NEW YORK, not necessarily just the Yankees.
        Actually, forget the others. The Yankees CF ALONE are tough competition :

        Mickey Mantle
        Joe DiMaggio
        Bernie Williams
        Earle Combs
        Rickey Henderson (yes, he played more games in CF when a Yankee and his monster 1985 season was as a CF)
        Bobby Murcer

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        • #5
          That is tough, but not exactly a contender with Boston. The list falls of a bit after DiMaggio and I consider Henderson to be an Athletic
          "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
            Pittsburgh boasts Wagner and Vaughan at shortstop. The rest fall a little short: Jay Bell, Jack Wilson, Dick Groat, Gene Alley.
            Those secondary guys you mention were all among the game's best shortstops in their primes, though. I would guess that the Pirates are probably the greatest team historically at shortstop. If only they weren't stuck with Clint Barmes there now...

            The Cardinals at first base might offer a competitor for the Red Sox' left field:

            Albert Pujols, Johnny Mize, Stan Musial, Keith Hernandez, Mark McGwire, Jim Bottomley, Roger Connor, Orlando Cepeda, Ed Konetchy, Ripper Collins, Jack Clark, Charles Comiskey...

            EDIT: I see CWS beat me to it...
            Baseball Junk Drawer

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            • #7
              Giants First baseman

              Willie McCovey (HoF)
              Bill Terry (HoF)
              Orlando Cepeda (HoF)
              Johnny Mize (HoF)
              High Pockets Kelly (HoF)
              Will Clark
              Brandon Belt
              Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 09-28-2012, 11:01 AM.
              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                Hard to beat Boston LF: Williams, Yaz, Manny, Rice, Greenwell

                But Braves have a pitching tradition that can rival Boston's LF.

                Kid Nichols
                Warren Spahn
                Phil Niekro
                Greg Maddux
                John Smoltz
                Tom Glavine
                Vic Willis
                John Clarkson
                Very impressive, the Giants had some good ones too

                Christy Mathewson
                Carl Hubbell
                Juan Marichal
                Gaylord Perry
                Joe McGinnity
                Amos Rusie
                Rube Marquard
                Red Ames
                Art Nehf
                Johnny Antonelli
                Sal Maglie
                Hoyt Wilhelm
                Mike McCormick
                Jason Schmidt
                Robb Nen
                Tim Lincecum
                Matt Cain
                Madison Bumgarner
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                  Giants First baseman

                  Willie McCovey
                  Bill Terry
                  Orlando Cepeda
                  Johnny Mize
                  Will Clark
                  Brandon Belt
                  JT Snow
                  High Pockets Kelly
                  1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                  2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                  3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
                    JT Snow
                    High Pockets Kelly
                    YOu beat me to it, Hobbs!

                    Willie McCovey (HoF)
                    Bill Terry (HoF)
                    Orlando Cepeda (HoF)
                    Johnny Mize (HoF)
                    High Pockets Kelly (HoF)
                    Will Clark
                    JT Snow
                    Brandon Belt :hyper:
                    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                    • #11
                      Minnesota Twins

                      Killebrew
                      Hrbek
                      Mientkiewicz
                      Morneau

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                      • #12
                        Speaking of the Yankees, their group of catchers cannot be topped.

                        Bill Dickey
                        Yogi Berra
                        Elston Howard
                        Thurmon Munson
                        Jorge Posada

                        If we include the whole state of NY we can add Hall of Famers Gary Carter and Mike Piazza to that illustrious group.

                        Also, not trying to be a homer here (I promise!), but I don't see any valid argument for Boston's LFers over New York's CFers. Mays, Mantle and Dimaggio are all top-15 players! Snider has a strong argument for top-50.
                        Last edited by GiambiJuice; 09-28-2012, 11:42 AM.
                        My top 10 players:

                        1. Babe Ruth
                        2. Barry Bonds
                        3. Ty Cobb
                        4. Ted Williams
                        5. Willie Mays
                        6. Alex Rodriguez
                        7. Hank Aaron
                        8. Honus Wagner
                        9. Lou Gehrig
                        10. Mickey Mantle

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                        • #13
                          The Whitesox had some pretty good shortstops.

                          Luke Appling
                          Luis Aparicio
                          Ozzie Guillen
                          Buck Weaver
                          Goerge Davis
                          "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

                          "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
                            The Red Sox are famous for boasting the greatest LF in history. If you try to compile an all-time roster, you end up with Williams or Ramirez at DH and leaving out Rice and Duffy Lewis. Is this position the strongest, most "depthful" of any team in history?

                            The only power that can contend (off the top of my head) is New York's center field. That is, NEW YORK, not necessarily just the Yankees. At one time, Mays, Mantle, and Snider all patrolled center in the same city at the same time. There is also Joe DiMaggio, Bernie Williams, and Carlos Beltran.

                            Pittsburgh boasts Wagner and Vaughan at shortstop. The rest fall a little short: Jay Bell, Jack Wilson, Dick Groat, Gene Alley.
                            Glenn Wright was an excellent SS for the Buccos.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
                              and I consider Henderson to be an Athletic
                              Historical Yankee CF reality sees that as trivial. Sorry.

                              Henderson's WAR as a Yankee is on par with Manny's as a Red Sox.
                              Last edited by dgarza; 09-28-2012, 12:13 PM.

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