Al Oliver vs Carlos Delgado

[Sockeye]

I'm going to run a series of polls with the winner advancing each time to face another opponent. Will leave each poll up for a week. I'll try to provide as much statistical information as possible. Hopefully we can get some lively insightful debates going and bring to light some overlooked players from yesteryear.
If you could pick between these two players to start your franchise with which would you pick? Please consider all relavent information. Their careers as a whole, peak performance, hitting, fielding, baserunning, positional value, league quality, etc.

Al Oliver

2368 games
9778 plate appearances
9049 at-bats
1189 runs
2743 hits
529 doubles
77 triples
219 home runs
1326 RBI
84 stolen bases
64 caught stealing
535 walks
756 strikeouts
.303 AVG
.344 OBP
.451 SLG
.795 OPS
121 OPS+
4083 total bases
1347 runs created
5.4 RC/G
95 AIR
.600 OW%
.713 Total Average
.209 Secondary Average
303.7 Win Shares
123.2 WSAB
40.2 rWAR
50.2 fWAR
40.2 sWAR

Carlos Delgado

2035 games
8657 plate appearances
7283 at-bats
1241 runs
2038 hits
483 doubles
18 triples
473 home runs
1512 RBI
14 stolen bases
8 caught stealing
1109 walks
1745 strikeouts
.280 AVG
.383 OBP
.546 SLG
.929 OPS
138 OPS+
3976 total bases
1588 runs created
7.7 RC/G
110 AIR
.678 OW%
.974 Total Average
.419 Secondary Average
303.8 Win Shares
161.2 WSAB
40.5 rWAR
46.3 fWAR
47.7 sWAR

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[PVNICK]

Al Oliver was better than I remembered, or maybe because Oliver is an unfavorite when it comes to HOF conversations he is diminished. That being said it would take a lot of contortions to say he was better than Delgado. Had he played CF longer, played defense at a + level, been faster maybe I could see it but tired as I am of Delgado (how the f' was he voted better than Dave Parker?? I still don't get that) I can't vote Oliver.

[1905 Giants]

Begrudgingly, I have to give it to Delgado

[pheasant]

I have Delgado by a big margin.

[TomBodet]

Delgado. Oliver was really good and it'd be interesting to see him in a Selig-era runs context.

[Sockeye]

Here are their neautralized 162 game averages

Oliver...Delgado

G 162...162
PA 683...678
AB 631...573
R 89...93
H 199...156
2B 38...37
3B 5...1
HR 16...36
RBI 99...113
SB 6...1
BB 39...85
SO 52...139
AVG .315....272
OBP .356....374
SLG .456....530
OPS .822....905
RC 105...112

[TomBodet]

What's the general impression of Oliver's d in CF/LF ? I remember him playing for the Pirates and Rangers but its his hitting that made the impression.

[Jackaroo Dave]

What's the general impression of Oliver's d in CF/LF ? I remember him playing for the Pirates and Rangers but its his hitting that made the impression.

I remember his being called both good and average in center. (I don't think I've ever heard of a "bad" center fielder.) His numbers look a lot better in the corners. If I had to guess, I'd say he earned his fielding reputation with his bat. Fangraphs gives him about a 70 run defensive edge over Delgado all told.

[Cowtipper]

I went with Delgado. Some really interesting matchups lately.