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  • John Titus vs. Tommy Griffith

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?

    Titus:

    1402 G
    5818 PA
    4960 AB
    738 R
    1401 H
    253 2B
    72 3B
    38 HR
    561 RBI
    140 SB
    >=7 CS
    620 BB
    386 K
    .282 BA
    .373 OBP
    .385 SLG
    .758 OPS
    127 OPS+
    1912 TB
    94 HBP
    144 SF
    27.9 WAR

    Griffith:

    1401 G
    5449 PA
    4947 AB
    589 R
    1383 H
    208 2B
    72 3B
    52 HR
    619 RBI
    70 SB
    >= 49 CS
    351 BB
    262 K
    .280 BA
    .328 OBP
    .382 SLG
    .711 OPS
    102 OPS+
    1891 TB
    9 HBP
    144 SH
    5.4 WAR

    If Titus wins, he will face his sixth-most similar comp. If Griffith wins, he will face his ninth-most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ron LeFlore
    Ron LeFlore vs. Mookie Wilson
    Ron LeFlore vs. Dan Gladden
    Ron LeFlore vs. Doug Glanville
    Ron LeFlore vs. Taylor Douthit
    Ron LeFlore vs. Terry Puhl
    Terry Puhl vs. Jerry Mumphrey
    Terry Puhl vs. Les Mann
    Terry Puhl vs. John Titus
    John Titus vs. Amos Strunk
    6
    John Titus
    100.00%
    6
    Tommy Griffith
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    I pick Titus
    “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

    "Fill in any figure you want for that boy (Mantle). Whatever the figure, it's a deal." - Branch Rickey

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
      I pick Titus
      I did as well.

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      • #4
        Griffith played half his career in the lively ball era. If you compare their leaderboards, the contrast leaps out at you.
        Indeed the first step toward finding out is to acknowledge you do not satisfactorily know already; so that no blight can so surely arrest all intellectual growth as the blight of cocksureness.--CS Peirce

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        • #5
          Did anyone notice Griffith's bizarre stolen base records for 1915 and 1916? In 1915 he was caught stealing in 24 of 30 attempts (and in his rookie year two years earlier he was only successful once out of eight tries), but way to turn it around, Tommy! In 1916 he was a perfect 16 steals in 16 attempts.
          "Here's a crazy thought I've always had: if they cut three fingers off each hand, I'd really be a great hitter because then I could level off better." Paul Waner (lifetime .333 hitter, 3,152 lifetime hits.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Buzzaldrin View Post
            Did anyone notice Griffith's bizarre stolen base records for 1915 and 1916? In 1915 he was caught stealing in 24 of 30 attempts (and in his rookie year two years earlier he was only successful once out of eight tries), but way to turn it around, Tommy! In 1916 he was a perfect 16 steals in 16 attempts.
            I think Tommy did better eluding The scorekeepers than he did the defense. There are 55 base stealers listed for 1916 with zero caught stealing. Then in 1917 they gave up trying to keep track.
            Indeed the first step toward finding out is to acknowledge you do not satisfactorily know already; so that no blight can so surely arrest all intellectual growth as the blight of cocksureness.--CS Peirce

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