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  • Cal Ripken's Defense in 1990

    In 1990 Ripken only commited 3 errors at shortstop which is very impressive. Is this the best year defensively by a player or are their others out there that would be even better?

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    Originally posted by Orioles5 View Post
    In 1990 Ripken only commited 3 errors at shortstop which is very impressive. Is this the best year defensively by a player or are their others out there that would be even better?
    Cal Ripken led the league in assists 7 times as a SS in his career

    he did not lead in 1990

    it depends on what you consider to be most important
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Orioles5 View Post
      In 1990 Ripken only commited 3 errors at shortstop which is very impressive. Is this the best year defensively by a player or are their others out there that would be even better?
      He still wasn't a "1" in strat-o-matic
      This week's Giant

      #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Orioles5 View Post
        In 1990 Ripken only commited 3 errors at shortstop which is very impressive.
        Yeah, not bad considering that three shortstops have made four errors in one inning.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Orioles5 View Post
          In 1990 Ripken only commited 3 errors at shortstop which is very impressive. Is this the best year defensively by a player or are their others out there that would be even better?
          As far as Fielding % goes, this is way up there. Ripken committed 3 Errors in 680 Chances.

          Mike Bordick committed just 1 Error in 570 Chances at SS in 2002.

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          • #6
            Ozzie Smith 1980?

            24 E

            288 PO

            621 Assists

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dgarza View Post
              Ripken committed 3 Errors in 680 Chances.
              Plácido Polanco committed 0 Errors in 683 Chances at 2B in 2007.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by westsidegrounds View Post
                Ozzie Smith 1980?

                24 E

                288 PO

                621 Assists
                Incredible season...
                "Herman Franks to Sal Yvars to Bobby Thomson. Ralph Branca to Bobby Thomson to Helen Rita... cue Russ Hodges."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
                  He still wasn't a "1" in strat-o-matic
                  actually they had to make a special rating for him
                  1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                  2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                  3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                  • #10
                    The lack of errors for Cal Ripken at such a demanding position as SS looks like a mind-blower at first glance; but when I checked my 1990 player ratings at each position, I was astounded to find Ripken rated .944, slightly below AL SS average for the season. From 1982-1996, it is also the lowest defense rating I have for Ripken during his regular career play at SS.

                    I have Ripken as No. 1 AL defensive SS in 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, and 1991; and if he didn't get AL GG awards those seasons, something was wrong in the judging.

                    So, I scratched my head and asked if the metric had gone off the tracks. No, I stand by it: in 1990, Cal Ripken was about -4.9 DR below the average AL SS. His rating [my metric] of .944 is not fielding percentage but more involved; and the AL SS averaged .958 that season. There's reason and work to support that rating.

                    I am presenting that work tomorrow or Wednesday on the Strategy and Sabermetrics board thread on Evolving MLB Defense, started a few months ago.

                    P.S. That post is now up.
                    Last edited by leewileyfan; 10-30-2012, 03:20 PM.

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