Why have we received so many weak World Series champions in recent years?

[redban]

2006 Cardinals
2008 Phillies
2010 Giants
2011 Cardinals
2012 Giants

Where are the legit World Series champions?

I want to see juggernaut, all-time great teams.

Where are the 1986 Mets? Where are the 1998 Yankees? Where are the 2004 Red Sox? Where are the 1989 A's?

In the last few World Series, it feels as if I've been watching some scrub teams get lucky. No wonder the ratings have stunk.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

Least the 2011 WS was entertaining.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Well your premise is wrong. The 1986 Mets are an all time great team? That group won one World Series and it took a massive Red Sox collapse to win their one World Series. The 2010 and 2012 SF Giants were and are solid World Series champions. Most of their key players were home grown and young.

Cain
Lincecum
Sandoval
Posey
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Romo
Wilson (in 2010)

Plus young players Brandon Belt and Hector Sanchez are also homegrown.

[JR Hart]

2006 Cardinals
2008 Phillies
2010 Giants
2011 Cardinals
2012 Giants

Where are the legit World Series champions?

I want to see juggernaut, all-time great teams.

Where are the 1986 Mets? Where are the 1998 Yankees? Where are the 2004 Red Sox? Where are the 1989 A's?

In the last few World Series, it feels as if I've been watching some scrub teams get lucky. No wonder the ratings have stunk.

OOOH Sour grapes

Here's a reply from a Giants fan................SCOREBOARD!!!! Who cares? WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!

And 2 out of 3 is a dynasty these days. The Giants are a GREAT team

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Plus the Giants are so mediocre that they are 8-1 W-L in 2010/2012 World Series.

[redban]

Well your premise is wrong. The 1986 Mets are an all time great team? That group won one World Series and it took a massive Red Sox collapse to win their one World Series. The 2010 and 2012 SF Giants were and are solid World Series champions. Most of their key players were home grown and young.

Cain
Lincecum
Sandoval
Posey
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Romo
Wilson (in 2010)

Plus young players Brandon Belt and Hector Sanchez are also homegrown.

The 1986 Mets won 108 games. They had Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Keith Hernandez, and Gary Carter.

I can look at the 1986 Mets and say they were one of the best teams ever assembled. I just can't do that with the teams who have won in recent years.

Rank all the World Series winners in history, and you'll see the 2010/2012 Giants and the 2006/2011 Cardinals near the bottom of the list.

[JR Hart]

Plus the Giants are so mediocre that they are 8-1 W-L in 2010/2012 World Series.

what's their ERA in those 9 games? pretty low

[willshad]

I think it is a combination of the talent being spread out among a lot of teams, and the expansion of the playoffs. With less teams, and less playoff rounds, the teams that win it will usually be the best team, and have more great players on it. There's less opportunity for a so so team to get lucky and beat them.

[JR Hart]

The 1986 Mets won 108 games. They had Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Keith Hernandez, and Gary Carter.

I can look at the 1986 Mets and say they were one of the best teams ever assembled. I just can't do that with the teams who have won in recent years.

Rank all the World Series winners in history, and you'll see the 2010/2012 Giants and the 2006/2011 Cardinals near the bottom of the list.

2 out of 3 The Mets didn't do that

Keep WAWAing we got the ring

[Bothrops Atrox]

Well your premise is wrong. The 1986 Mets are an all time great team? That group won one World Series and it took a massive Red Sox collapse to win their one World Series. The 2010 and 2012 SF Giants were and are solid World Series champions. Most of their key players were home grown and young.

Cain
Lincecum
Sandoval
Posey
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Romo
Wilson (in 2010)

Plus young players Brandon Belt and Hector Sanchez are also homegrown.

And look at the names of the players the 2006/2011 Cardinals rolled out there: Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, Molina, Mulder, Carpenter, Wainwright, Berkman, Holliday, Furcal, Freese, Craig, etc. That is a plethora of All Stars and 6-7 guys who will be at least discussable HOF candidates. The two teams before the 2006 team won 205 games the previous two seasons with largely the same players. The pure talent on those two teams was nowhere near the bottom of all HOF winners.

The Phillies were in the playoffs the year before and won an average of 98 games the next three seasons. The 2008 squad featured Rollins, Utley, Hamels, Lidge, and Howard all in their primes.

There is a lot more to how good a team is than a single season W/L record which can be influenced by countless factors.

[JR Hart]

And look at the names of the Player the 2006/2011 Cardinals rolled out there: Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, Molina, Mulder, Carpenter, Wainwright, Berkman, Holliday, Furcal, Freese, Craig, etc. That is a plethora of All Stars and 6-7 guys who will be at least discussable HOF candidates. The Phillies were in the playoffs the year before and won an average of 98 games the next three seasons. The 2008 squad featured Rollins, Utley, Hamels, Lidge, and Howard all in their primes.

There is a lot more to how good a team is than a single season W/L record which can be influenced by countless factors.

The OP is just sour grapes and wants to instantly rain on the parade. Won't work.

The OP can go hang out with the 2001 Mariners and tell them how great they were.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

The 1986 Mets won 108 games. They had Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Keith Hernandez, and Gary Carter.

The Giants have Buster Posey the likely 2012 NL MVP. Plus the Giants pitching is far superior to the Mets pitching.

I can look at the 1986 Mets and say they were one of the best teams ever assembled. I just can't do that with the teams who have won in recent years.

The 1986 NL East was very weak. The Mets won the NL East by 20 games. All-time great teams win more than one World Series title. Since the SF Giants have won two World Series titles in three seasons that makes this group of Giants more successful than the mid 1980's Mets teams.

The 2010 / 2012 Giants and the 2006 / 2011 Cardinals wouldn't even make the playoffs in certain eras.

You can say this about any team. It doesn't really mean anything.

[Bothrops Atrox]

BREAKING NEWS:

Lucky, scrub team full of All Stars and potential HOFers makes playoffs for the ninth time in 13 seasons, including seven LCS appearances and three World Series trips! Many are skeptical that these things actually happened due to the fact that the team won fewer than 92 games in a several of those seasons.

[redban]

Maybe its just my nostalgia.

I remember as a kid seeing those 1990s Yankees vs 1990s Braves.

Two teams that could win 100+ games, with all-time greats like Jeter, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Rivera, etc.

It was a match-up I could tell my kids about. You really felt as though you were watching the best in the world go at it.

These Giants and Cardinals teams in recent years don't stack up with the older champions. Again, it feels like I'm seeing teams get lucky instead of actually being good.

[Bothrops Atrox]

Maybe its just my nostalgia.

I remember as a kid seeing those 1990s Yankees vs 1990s Braves.

Two teams that could win 100+ games, with all-time greats like Jeter, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Rivera, etc.

It was a match-up I could tell my kids about. You really felt as though you were watching the best in the world go at it.

These Giants and Cardinals teams in recent years don't stack up with the older champions. Again, it feels like I'm seeing teams get lucky instead of actually being good.

That happened twice - in 1996, the Yankees had 92 wins (two fewer than the 2012 Giants) and nobody knew that Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte, etc. would be legends or would have called that team legendary at the time. Who knows how the careers of the young stars of the Cardinals and Giants turn out. In 1999 (years in which Maddux and Glavine had some of the worst seasons in their primes), despite their records, everybody predicted a huge blowout series by the Yankees, and they swept the Braves in a poor series.

Everybody thought the 2001 Patriots were a mediocre/lucky team beating the Greatest Show on Turf too...at the time.

If you are remembering the Yankees and the Braves having a bunch of high-quality World Series when their players were all considered superstars, that is not nostalgia. That is revisionist history.