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  • Elmer Valo vs. Dave Martinez

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?


    1806 G
    6901 PA
    5029 AB
    768 R
    1420 H
    228 2B
    73 3B
    58 HR
    601 RBI
    110 SB
    79 CS
    942 BB
    284 K
    .282 BA
    .398 OBP
    .391 SLG
    .790 OPS
    115 OPS+
    1968 TB
    111 GDP
    38 HBP
    65 SH
    >=17 SH
    >=12 IBB
    25.8 WAR


    1919 G
    6480 PA
    5795 AB
    795 R
    1599 H
    238 2B
    72 3B
    91 HR
    580 RBI
    183 SB
    94 CS
    567 BB
    893 K
    .276 BA
    .341 OBP
    .389 SLG
    .730 OPS
    95 OPS+
    2254 TB
    84 GDP
    28 HBP
    53 SH
    37 SF
    47 IBB
    16.5 WAR

    If Valo wins, he will face his second-most similar comp's second-most similar comp. If Martinez wins, he will face his most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ron LeFlore
    Ron LeFlore vs. Mookie Wilson
    Ron LeFlore vs. Dan Gladden
    Ron LeFlore vs. Doug Glanville
    Ron LeFlore vs. Taylor Douthit
    Ron LeFlore vs. Terry Puhl
    Terry Puhl vs. Jerry Mumphrey
    Terry Puhl vs. Les Mann
    Terry Puhl vs. John Titus
    John Titus vs. Amos Strunk
    John Titus vs. Tommy Griffith
    John Titus vs. Elmer Valo
    Elmer Valo vs. Stan Javier
    Elmer Valo
    Dave Martinez

    The poll is expired.

  • #2
    In terms of counting numbers, it appears Dave Martinez is a slightly better version of Stan Javier - but that still does not make him good enough to beat Valo, who I voted for.


    • #3
      I picked Valo as well.
      "The first draft of anything is crap." - Ernest Hemingway

      There's no such thing as an ultimate stat.


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