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  • Mark Grace vs Carlos Delgado

    I'm going to run a series of polls with the winner advancing each time to face another opponent. Will leave each poll up for a week. I'll try to provide as much statistical information as possible. Hopefully we can get some lively insightful debates going and bring to light some overlooked players from yesteryear.
    If you could pick between these two players to start your franchise with which would you pick? Please consider all relavent information. Their careers as a whole, peak performance, hitting, fielding, baserunning, positional value, league quality, etc.

    Mark Grace

    2245 games
    9290 plate appearances
    8065 at-bats
    1179 runs
    2445 hits
    511 doubles
    45 triples
    173 home runs
    1146 RBI
    70 stolen bases
    48 caught stealing
    1075 walks
    642 strikeouts
    .303 AVG
    .383 OBP
    .442 SLG
    .825 OPS
    119 OPS+
    3565 total bases
    1403 runs created
    6.3 RC/G
    106 AIR
    .633 OW%
    .801 Total Average
    .275 Secondary Average
    290.2 Win Shares
    127.5 WSAB
    43.0 rWAR
    48.3 fWAR
    42.9 sWAR

    Carlos Delgado

    2035 games
    8657 plate appearances
    7283 at-bats
    1241 runs
    2038 hits
    483 doubles
    18 triples
    473 home runs
    1512 RBI
    14 stolen bases
    8 caught stealing
    1109 walks
    1745 strikeouts
    .280 AVG
    .383 OBP
    .546 SLG
    .929 OPS
    138 OPS+
    3976 total bases
    1588 runs created
    7.7 RC/G
    110 AIR
    .678 OW%
    .974 Total Average
    .419 Secondary Average
    303.8 Win Shares
    161.2 WSAB
    40.5 rWAR
    46.3 fWAR
    47.7 sWAR

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    7
    Mark Grace
    28.57%
    2
    Carlos Delgado
    71.43%
    5

    The poll is expired.

    My dream ballpark dimensions
    LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
    RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
    Location....San Diego

  • #2
    If Grace were a Keith Hernandez with the glove maybe, and if Delgado was a NYY version Jason Giambi like lummox then I could see voting for Grace. Grace was nowhere near Hernandez and while Delgado may have been sub par I don't think he is that bad. The WAR and winshare totals are close but Grace has about a seasons worth (600) of PA more than Delgado.

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    • #3
      I went Delgado, the power clinches it for me.
      "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

      "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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      • #4
        As much as I liked Grace, I voted for Delgado on this one. The postseasons and the power gives him a nod.
        "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
        George Brett

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        • #5
          I went with Grace. He was a slightly more dynamic player than Delgado.

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