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  • PVNICK
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    I just looked at Kelly's stats and forgot or never noticed that he never had even 500 PA with a single team after he left the Yankees. His career is a whole lot of meh. In the day and age he played to never top 85 R, 70 RBI that seems almost improbable. Despite a few partial season .300 BA the Yanks might have had it right and he peaked, if you can call it that, after 2-3 seasons. It would be a tremendous insult to vote a part-time OF that never lived up to his, perhaps imaginary, promise over a legitimate league leaderboard full time constantly improving player of three quarters of a century earlier.

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  • Cowtipper
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    Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
    I'll hold of fon a decision for now but I really thought Kelly was better than the above numbers he has. It's gonna take a helluva league quality/numbers gipped by the roiders fudge to put him above Walker at first glance.
    I agree, it was close. But what made me choose Walker over Kelly was Walker's greater black and grey ink.

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  • PVNICK
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    I'll hold of fon a decision for now but I really thought Kelly was better than the above numbers he has. It's gonna take a helluva league quality/numbers gipped by the roiders fudge to put him above Walker at first glance.

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  • Cowtipper
    started a poll Tillie Walker vs. Roberto Kelly

    Tillie Walker vs. Roberto Kelly

    5
    Tillie Walker
    100.00%
    5
    Roberto Kelly
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comparison" (on Baseball-Reference) game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?

    Walker:

    1421 G
    5661 PA
    5067 AB
    696 R
    1423 H
    244 2B
    71 3B
    118 HR
    679 RBI
    129 SB
    >=48 CS
    416 BB
    584 K
    .281 BA
    .339 OBP
    .427 SLG
    .766 OPS
    115 OPS+
    2163 TB
    31 HBP
    154 SH
    22.3 WAR

    Kelly:

    1337 G
    5243 PA
    4797 AB
    687 R
    1390 H
    241 2B
    30 3B
    124 HR
    585 RBI
    235 SB
    84 CS
    317 BB
    862 K
    .290 BA
    .337 OBP
    .430 SLG
    .767 OPS
    106 OPS+
    2063 TB
    113 GDP
    49 HBP
    22 SH
    41 SF
    16 IBB
    18.2 WAR

    If Walker wins, he will face his third-most similar comp. If Kelly wins, he will face his most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Matty McIntyre
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Gene Richards
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Tom Goodwin
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Peanuts Lowrey
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Patsy Tebeau
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Billy Hatcher
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Red Murray
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Hi Myers
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Mike Kreevich
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Luis Polonia
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Darryl Hamilton
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Max Flack
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Al Bumbry
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Ron LeFlore
    Ron LeFlore vs. Mookie Wilson
    Ron LeFlore vs. Dan Gladden
    Ron LeFlore vs. Doug Glanville
    Ron LeFlore vs. Taylor Douthit
    Ron LeFlore vs. Terry Puhl
    Terry Puhl vs. Jerry Mumphrey
    Terry Puhl vs. Les Mann
    Terry Puhl vs. John Titus
    John Titus vs. Amos Strunk
    John Titus vs. Tommy Griffith
    John Titus vs. Elmer Valo
    Elmer Valo vs. Stan Javier
    Elmer Valo vs. Dave Martinez
    Elmer Valo vs. Tony Gonzalez
    Tony Gonzalez vs. Tillie Walker

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