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  • ESPN's Top 100 MLB Players of All Time

    ESPN just released their community effort of listing in order the 100 greatest baseball players in history. They currently have #75-100 along with 25 honorable mentions. I can update list once they complete it in a few days. The article can be found >>HERE<<.

    Top 100 Players

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Willie Mays
    3. Barry Bonds
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Hank Aaron
    6. Ty Cobb
    7. Roger Clemens
    8. Stan Musial
    9. Mickey Mantle
    10. Honus Wagner
    11. Lou Gehrig
    12. Walter Johnson
    13. Greg Maddux
    14. Rickey Henderson
    15. Rogers Hornsby
    16. Mike Schmidt
    17. Cy Young
    18. Alex Rodriguez
    19. Albert Pujols
    20. Joe Morgan
    21. Joe DiMaggio
    22. Frank Robinson
    23. Randy Johnson
    24. Tom Seaver
    25. Tris Speaker
    26. Steve Carlton
    27. Johnny Bench
    28. Jimmie Foxx
    29. Christy Mathewson
    30. George Brett
    31. Cal Ripken Jr.
    32. Bob Gibson
    33. Roberto Clemente
    34. Ken Griffey Jr.
    35. Nolan Ryan
    36. Mel Ott
    37. Pete Rose
    38. Derek Jeter
    39. Eddie Mathews
    40. Carl Yastrzemski
    41. Pedro Martinez
    42. Eddie Collins
    43. Brooks Robinson
    44. Sandy Koufax
    45. Warren Spahn
    46. Al Kaline
    47. Lefty Grove
    48. Nap Lajoie
    49. Chipper Jones
    50. Pete Alexander
    51. Ernie Banks
    52. Jackie Robinson
    53. Rod Carew
    54. Wade Boggs
    55. Reggie Jackson
    56. Yogi Berra
    57. Willie McCovey
    58. Robin Yount
    59. Bob Feller
    60. Ozzie Smith
    61. Tony Gwynn
    62. Ferguson Jenkins
    63. Hank Greenberg
    64. Harmon Killebrew
    65. Eddie Murray
    66. Gaylord Perry
    67. Mariano Rivera
    68. Jeff Bagwell
    69. Frank Thomas
    70. Juan Marichal
    71. Ivan Rodriguez
    72. Bert Blyleven
    73. Roberto Alomar
    74. Barry Larkin
    75. John Smoltz
    76. Carlton Fisk
    77. Paul Molitor
    78. Mike Piazza
    79. Robin Roberts
    80. Charlie Gehringer
    81. Duke Snider
    82. Kid Nichols
    83. Mark McGwire
    84. Willie Stargell
    85. Manny Ramirez
    86. Gary Carter
    87. Frankie Frisch
    88. Cap Anson
    89. Jim Palmer
    90. Craig Biggio
    91. Paul Waner
    92. Roy Halladay
    93. Tom Glavine
    94. Jim Thome
    95. Sammy Sosa
    96. Tim Raines
    97. Ron Santo
    98. Joe Cronin
    99. Al Simmons
    100. Phil Niekro

    Honorable Mentions

    101. Luke Appling
    102. Joe Jackson
    103. Eddie Plank
    104. Dave Winfield
    105. Curt Schilling
    106. Whitey Ford
    107. Johnny Mize
    108. Rafael Palmeiro
    109. Don Sutton
    110. Harry Heilmann
    111. Pud Galvin
    112. Ryne Sandberg
    113. Bill Dickey
    114. George Sisler
    115. Tim Keefe
    116. Dennis Eckersley
    117. Sam Crawford
    118. Lou Boudreau
    119. Rube Waddell
    120. Billy Williams
    121. Ed Delahanty
    122. Edgar Martinez
    123. Don Drysdale
    124. Arky Vaughan
    125. Roy Campanella
    Last edited by Ben Grimm; 12-13-2012, 01:06 PM.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

  • #2
    Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post

    Honorable Mentions

    107. Johnny Mize
    Mize and Plank way too low. Arky Vaughan embarrassingly low. Stargell, Galvin, and Sutton are too high. not as terrible as these mainstream top 100's are usually. So far, at least.
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 12-11-2012, 01:41 PM.
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    The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
    The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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    • #3
      I'm not sure I agree with Santo being in the top 100.
      "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

      "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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      • #4
        Sosa, even without factoring out PEDs should be nowhere near a top 100, particulalry when you include pitchers. To lump him at the head of a grouping containing Raines and Al Simmons is just wrong. But on the other hand acknowledging the existence of Al Simmons and that Raines is top 100 is a lot more sophisticated than I would have expected.

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        • #5
          Roy Halladay in the Top 100? When did he become better than Eddie Plank?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
            But on the other hand acknowledging the existence of Al Simmons and that Raines is top 100 is a lot more sophisticated than I would have expected.
            I'm not sure if I'm more insulted when they devaluate 19th cent/ all time greats like Anson and Keefe or when they lazily ignore them altogether.

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            • #7
              If that's the best they can do, I'll pass.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                Arky Vaughan embarrassingly low.
                I wonder if they read their own "Fun Fact" on Vaughan...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                  Roy Halladay in the Top 100? When did he become better than Eddie Plank?
                  How many Cy Young awards did Plank win?? I kid, I kid.

                  On a more serious note, for being the undisputed greatest hitting catcher of all time, Piazza is way too low. He should probably be top 50 - and he certainly shouldn't be ranked lower than Fisk, IMHO.
                  Last edited by GiambiJuice; 12-11-2012, 02:36 PM.
                  My top 10 players:

                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Barry Bonds
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Ted Williams
                  5. Willie Mays
                  6. Alex Rodriguez
                  7. Hank Aaron
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Lou Gehrig
                  10. Mickey Mantle

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                  • #10
                    Ty Cobb thought Joe Jackson was the greatest natural hitter ever,Walter Johnson named him as the toughest hitter he ever faced,the Babe copied his swing,Ed Walsh said he hit the ball harder than anybody he ever saw.He hits .356 lifetime but I guess the folks at ESPN know better when they don`t even rank him in the top 100.Say it ain`t so Joe!(so far this ESPN top 100 list doesn`t make my top 100 list of top 100 players lists)!
                    Last edited by Nimrod; 12-11-2012, 02:54 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nimrod View Post
                      Ty Cobb thought Joe Jackson was the greatest natural hitter ever,Walter Johnson named him as the toughest hitter he ever faced,the Babe copied his swing,Ed Walsh said he hit the ball harder than anybody he ever saw.I guess the folks at ESPN know better when they don`t even rank him in the top 100.Say it ain`t so Joe!
                      Longevity counts for something too. We can always play the "what if" game, but Shoeless Joe was out of Baseball at age 32, with fewer than 2,000 hits under his belt, and it's his own fault.
                      My top 10 players:

                      1. Babe Ruth
                      2. Barry Bonds
                      3. Ty Cobb
                      4. Ted Williams
                      5. Willie Mays
                      6. Alex Rodriguez
                      7. Hank Aaron
                      8. Honus Wagner
                      9. Lou Gehrig
                      10. Mickey Mantle

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                      • #12
                        I'm looking for really wacko ratings- not ones that most would say are +/- 10 or 15 spos tof where they should be.

                        Already mentioned- Mize at 107. Without any war credit I see him as a 50-60 position player, which would put him in the top 75-85 when pitchers are counted. With war cedit I see him as a top 35 position player, which would put him around top 50 overall.

                        Nichols- if he's a top 15 alltime pitcher, as many here seem to feel, he's in the top 50 overall- pretty far above number 82.

                        Vaughan- even if he's overrated a bit on some sites, he's still a top 3-4 alltime SS, which certainly puts him in/around top 50 position players, and no lower than 70-75 overall.

                        Without seeing the entire list we can't do some meaningful comparisons yet, but I think there will be a few headscratchers in there.

                        Overall, better than the team of the century voting.

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                        • #13
                          We'll see where Jeter ends up. I am not sure that Jeter tops Appling yet. Also will see about Koufax. I think that they put Dimaggio 5th at CF in a show behind Mays, Cobb, Speaker and Mantle though Puckett was 9th (That was prime 9, not sure if its the same people).

                          Santo is pretty consistently ranked 6 or 7 at third base, so top 100 does make sense to me although my theory about there being few HOF third basemen is just that so many guys played there for a portion of their careers.

                          I have Fisk, Piazza and Carter near the very top of the catchers list all time (and all about equal) so it will be interesting to see if they go more with old timers in Cochrane, Dickey and Hartnett there. Vaughan is a top 40 player and Mize is a top 60 player.

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                          • #14
                            Roy Campanella at #125, last man on the list.
                            They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                              Roy Campanella at #125, last man on the list.
                              It's clear that Campanella is getting zero credit for time missed due to the color line/WW2. Campanella was as good as any catcher in ML history but his career was short, started late, and plagued by injuries.

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