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  • The 15 best hitters since 1990

    Another post made me think of this idea. To me, there are so many guys from the beginning of the steroid era until now that are extremely close together with regards to hitting. I imagine that Bonds and Pujols will be1 and 2 on everyone's list, but after that it becomes kind of murky. Thomas? Manny? A-rod? Cabrera? Edgar? Thome? Mcgwire? Bagwell? Piazza? Giambi? Gwynn? Mauer?

    Im going to hold of on posting my list until I see if anyone else posts one.

  • #2
    1. Barry Bonds...no ped deduction
    2. Albert Pujols
    3. Alex Rodriguez....no ped deduction
    4. Frank Thomas
    5. Jeff Bagwell
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Manny Ramirez
    8. Ken Griffey Jr.
    9. Mark McGwire
    10. Miguel Caberra
    11. Joe Mauer
    12. Carlos Delgado
    13. Ichiro Suzuki
    14. Tony Gwynn
    15. Edgar Martinez

    I'm probably missing quite a few guys.

    I'm guessing 90 percent of these guys used peds so I didn't knock any of the well known users.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by willshad View Post
      Another post made me think of this idea. To me, there are so many guys from the beginning of the steroid era until now that are extremely close together with regards to hitting. I imagine that Bonds and Pujols will be1 and 2 on everyone's list, but after that it becomes kind of murky. Thomas? Manny? A-rod? Cabrera? Edgar? Thome? Mcgwire? Bagwell? Piazza? Giambi? Gwynn? Mauer?

      Im going to hold of on posting my list until I see if anyone else posts one.
      Well, Bond's is not #1 on my list or #2. If you are only referring to HITTING. I would certainly rank Pujols higher, I'd rank Thomas higher, and I'm unsure yet where I'd put Cabrera or Bagwell.

      If you are literally meaning starting from 1/1/1990 forward (which excludes his weak early years), then I'll skip the discussion entirely. I find the "Q: Who was the best pitcher in the 1980's? A:Jack Morris" posts irritating.
      "It's better to look good, than be good."

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      • #4
        Well without discounting steroids I don't see how Bonds would be anything besides number 1.
        "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

        "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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        • #5
          Are we talking about hitting or slugging? I see these as different...if its hitting, then i wouldnt put mcgwire on the list

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          • #6
            Lance Berkman probably won't show up on anyone's list but he should.
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #7
              Looking at and weighing the talents of Average, Percentage, and Power...

              1. Albert Pujols
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              2. Barry Bonds
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              3. Joey Votto
              4. Manny Ramirez
              5. Mark McGwire
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              6. Frank Thomas
              7. Edgar Martinez
              8. Miguel Cabrera
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              9. Ryan Braun
              10. Todd Helton
              11. Larry Walker
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              12. Joe Mauer
              13. Albert Belle
              14. Jeff Bagwell
              15. Vladimir Guerrero
              16. Lance Berkman
              17. Tony Gwynn
              --------------
              18. Jim Thome
              19. Alex Rodriguez
              20. Ichiro Suzuki
              Last edited by dgarza; 12-25-2012, 07:59 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                1. Barry Bonds...no ped deduction
                2. Albert Pujols
                3. Alex Rodriguez....no ped deduction
                4. Frank Thomas
                5. Jeff Bagwell
                6. Mike Piazza
                7. Manny Ramirez
                8. Ken Griffey Jr.
                9. Mark McGwire
                10. Miguel Caberra
                11. Joe Mauer
                12. Carlos Delgado
                13. Ichiro Suzuki
                14. Tony Gwynn
                15. Edgar Martinez

                I'm probably missing quite a few guys.

                I'm guessing 90 percent of these guys used peds so I didn't knock any of the well known users.
                If we're just doing hitting, and not defense or running the bases, why do you have Manny so low? I'd take him over A-Rod any day.
                Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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                • #9
                  1) Bonds
                  2) Thomas
                  3) Manny
                  4) Pujols
                  5) A-Rod
                  6) McGwire
                  7) Griffey
                  8) Sosa
                  9) Giambi
                  10) Gwynn
                  11) Miggy
                  12) Jeter
                  13) Piaza
                  14) Thome
                  15) Ichiro
                  Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by White Knight View Post
                    1) Bonds
                    2) Thomas
                    3) Manny
                    4) Pujols
                    5) A-Rod
                    6) McGwire
                    7) Griffey
                    8) Sosa
                    9) Giambi
                    10) Gwynn
                    11) Miggy
                    12) Jeter
                    13) Piaza
                    14) Thome
                    15) Ichiro
                    What? Jeter's not number 1 ??? :o
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                      What? Jeter's not number 1 ??? :o
                      Lol, nah I wish he were. I juist did that list off the top of my head anyway. Can't wait to see your list to see if Cano makes it.
                      Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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                      • #12
                        the absense of Chipper Jones from every single list in this thread boggles my mind.
                        My top 10 players:

                        1. Babe Ruth
                        2. Barry Bonds
                        3. Ty Cobb
                        4. Ted Williams
                        5. Willie Mays
                        6. Alex Rodriguez
                        7. Hank Aaron
                        8. Honus Wagner
                        9. Lou Gehrig
                        10. Mickey Mantle

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                        • #13
                          1. Frank Thomas
                          2. Barry Bonds
                          3. Manny Ramirez
                          4. Albert Pujols
                          5. Mark Mcgwire
                          6. A-Rod
                          7. Jeff Bagwell
                          8. Mike Piazza
                          9. Chipper Jones
                          10. Jim Thome
                          11. Edgar Martinez
                          12. Vlad Guerrero
                          13. Miguel Cabrera
                          14. Gary Sheffield
                          15. Ken Griffey Jr
                          16. Lance Berkman
                          17. Carlos Delgado
                          18. Tony Gwynn
                          19. Jason Giambi
                          20. David Ortiz

                          I like Votto, but his career is still too short compared to all of these guys. Same for Braun. Jeter, ichiro, and Mauer do not have enough power to compete. It's hard to rank Helton and Walker, but I tend to think they'd be a notch below my list without the 'Coors effect'.

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                          • #14
                            Bonds
                            Pujols
                            Thomas
                            Thome
                            Bagwell
                            C Jones
                            Piazza
                            Berkman
                            V Guerrero
                            M Cabrera
                            Griffey Jr.
                            Belle
                            E Martinez
                            Delgado
                            Ryan Howard

                            I based this on clean hitting assuming a natural decline. I tossed out steroid stats. Thus, a-rod,Mcgwire, Ramirez, and Sheffield got dropped.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pheasant View Post
                              Bonds
                              Pujols
                              Thomas
                              Thome
                              Bagwell
                              C Jones
                              Piazza
                              Berkman
                              V Guerrero
                              M Cabrera
                              Griffey Jr.
                              Belle
                              E Martinez
                              Delgado
                              Ryan Howard

                              I based this on clean hitting assuming a natural decline. I tossed out steroid stats. Thus, a-rod,Mcgwire, Ramirez, and Sheffield got dropped.
                              You threw out steroid stats and Bonds is still number one?

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