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  • #1

    Greatest Seasons by Non-HOFers

    I thought it might be fun to list our top 5 single-seasons since 1900 for position players who were never elected to the Hall of Fame. For the purposes of this thread, Pete Rose and Joe Jackson do not count as they out of the Hall for reasons unrelated to performance. I also don't want to include active players or guys like Bonds, McGwire, Bagwell etc.,who recently became eligible for election and might be elected in the not too distant future. So for the purposes of this thread, please only include players whose careers ended before the year 2000.

    Here's my top 5 list:
    Best seasons by non-HOFers who last played prior to 2000

    1. Norm Cash 1961
    .361/.487/.662, 201 OPS+. A truly historic season which was overshadowed by Maris and Mantle.
    2. Dick Allen 1972
    Absolutely dominant season during a pitcher-friendly year. League averages were .239/.306/.343. Allen hit .308/.420/.603
    3. Fred Lynn 1979
    .333/.423/.637, led league in BA, OBP, and SLG, 176 OPS+ led league too. Won Gold Glove in CF.
    4. Al Rosen 1953
    Led league in HR, RBI, runs scored, SLG, OPS+, TB, WAR and other categories, while playing above-average defense at third base.
    5. Pete Rieser 1941
    Led league in BA, SLG, runs scored, doubles, triples, OPS+, total bases and WAR, along with good defense in CF

    There were so many great seasons to consider, from Maris in '61 to George Foster in '77 to Mattingly in '86 and Trammell in '87. It wasn't easy, but these are the five that I've chosen.

    I'd love to see some of your top-5 lists.
    Last edited by GiambiJuice; 01-10-2013, 01:39 PM.
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle
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  • #2
    Darin Erstad's 2000 season comes to mind. Batting leadoff he hit:

    .355/.409/.541, 137 OPS+, 240 H, 25 HR, 100 RBI, 121 R, 39 doubles, 6 triples, 28 SB, 8.2 WAR
    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
      Darin Erstad's 2000 season comes to mind. Batting leadoff he hit:

      .355/.409/.541, 137 OPS+, 240 H, 25 HR, 100 RBI, 121 R, 39 doubles, 6 triples, 28 SB, 8.2 WAR
      Great season. He played until 2009, though.
      My top 10 players:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Barry Bonds
      3. Ty Cobb
      4. Ted Williams
      5. Willie Mays
      6. Alex Rodriguez
      7. Hank Aaron
      8. Honus Wagner
      9. Lou Gehrig
      10. Mickey Mantle

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      • #4
        True, But Erstad has zero shot at being inducted to the HoF. I didn't read the entire OP. Oops! Sorry about that.
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Kevin Mitchell, 1989
          .291/.388/.635, 192 OPS+, 47 HR, 125 RBI, 100 R,

          Led the NL in HR, RBI, Slug%, OPS, OPS+, TB, and IBB
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
            Kevin Mitchell, 1989
            .291/.388/.635, 192 OPS+, 47 HR, 125 RBI, 100 R,

            Led the NL in HR, RBI, Slug%, OPS, OPS+, TB, and IBB
            Nice one. His teammate, Will Clark wasn't too shabby that year either.

            Check out this complete list of teammates since 1900 with an OPS+ of 175 or better.

            1927 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1928 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1930 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1931 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1932 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1933 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
            1989 Giants (Mitchell and Clark)
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
              True, But Erstad has zero shot at being inducted to the HoF. I didn't read the entire OP. Oops! Sorry about that.
              Yeah, you're right but I'd really like to avoid the whole "steroid era" in general. Lots of Looney Tunes seasons from the 90's and early 00's by guys who will never be seriously considered for the Hall of Fame (Brady Anderson, Ken Caminiti, Richard Hidalgo, and Luis Gonzalez come to mind...)
              My top 10 players:

              1. Babe Ruth
              2. Barry Bonds
              3. Ty Cobb
              4. Ted Williams
              5. Willie Mays
              6. Alex Rodriguez
              7. Hank Aaron
              8. Honus Wagner
              9. Lou Gehrig
              10. Mickey Mantle

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                Nice one. His teammate, Will Clark wasn't too shabby that year either.

                Check out this complete list of teammates since 1900 with an OPS+ of 175 or better.

                1927 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1928 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1930 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1931 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1932 Yankess (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1933 Yankees (Ruth and Gehrig)
                1989 Giants (Mitchell and Clark)
                Wow, very exclusive list! Have there been other teammates that came close?
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                  Kevin Mitchell, 1989
                  .291/.388/.635, 192 OPS+, 47 HR, 125 RBI, 100 R,

                  Led the NL in HR, RBI, Slug%, OPS, OPS+, TB, and IBB
                  Dammit! lol
                  "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                    Wow, very exclusive list! Have there been other teammates that came close?
                    If we lower the minimum to 170, we can add:

                    Pujols and Edmonds with the 2004 Cardinals
                    Medwick and Mize with 1937 Cardinals

                    Lower it again to 165 and we add:

                    Griffey and Edgar with the 1997 Mariners
                    Cepeda and Mays with the 1963 Giants
                    Mantle and Maris in 1961
                    Aaron and Mathews with the 1959 Braves
                    Dimaggio and Gehrig with the 1937 Yankees
                    Cobb and Heilmann with the 1921 and 1922 Tigers
                    Lajoie and Hickman with Cleveland in 1902
                    Last edited by GiambiJuice; 01-10-2013, 02:09 PM.
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                      If we lower the minimum to 170, we can add:

                      Pujols and Edmonds with the 2004 Cardinals
                      Medwick and Mize with 1937 Cardinals

                      Lower it again to 165 and we add:

                      Griffey and Edgar with the 1997 Mariners
                      Cepeda and Mays with the 1963 Giants
                      Mantle and Maris in 1961
                      Aaron and Mathews with the 1959 Braves
                      Dimaggio and Gehrig with the 1937 Yankees
                      Cobb and Heilmann with the 1921 and 1922 Tigers
                      Lajoie and Hickman with Cleveland in 1902
                      Even lowering it down to 165 OPS+ the list is still pretty short. I checked and Willie Mays and Willie McCovey never had their respective high OPS+ seasons at the same time. Their best seasons were:

                      1965 Mays (185 OPS+), McCovey (153 OPS+)
                      1966 McCovey (163 OPS+), Mays (149 OPS+)
                      1968 McCovey (174 OPS+), Mays (156 OPS+)
                      1970 McCovey (182 OPS+), Mays (140 OPS+)

                      From 1968-70 McCovey was a beast with 174, 209, and 182 OPS+, consecutively.
                      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                      • #12
                        From back in my first days following MLB:

                        Ted Kluszewski 1954

                        .326/.407/.642 167 OPS+ 49* HR 141* RBI

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                        • #13
                          Seems like we've done this thread before. I've always been partial to Al Rosen's 1953. As the OP states:
                          Al Rosen 1953
                          Led league in HR, RBI, runs scored, SLG, OPS+, TB, WAR and other categories, while playing above-average defense at third base.

                          What it doesn't mention is he missed winning the triple crown by one hit.
                          They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                            From back in my first days following MLB:

                            Ted Kluszewski 1954

                            .326/.407/.642 167 OPS+ 49* HR 141* RBI
                            And 35 strikeouts!
                            My top 10 players:

                            1. Babe Ruth
                            2. Barry Bonds
                            3. Ty Cobb
                            4. Ted Williams
                            5. Willie Mays
                            6. Alex Rodriguez
                            7. Hank Aaron
                            8. Honus Wagner
                            9. Lou Gehrig
                            10. Mickey Mantle

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                              Seems like we've done this thread before. I've always been partial to Al Rosen's 1953. As the OP states:
                              Al Rosen 1953
                              Led league in HR, RBI, runs scored, SLG, OPS+, TB, WAR and other categories, while playing above-average defense at third base.

                              What it doesn't mention is he missed winning the triple crown by one hit.
                              I used to play Strat Historic Fantasy on SportingNews when they carried it. Three of my favorite players year in and year out for value were Rosen, Trotsky Jr & Pete Alexander - all who had a better chance of hitting their good numbers than now.
                              "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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