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  • Japan careers included: ichiro vs. matsui

    Who wins? just considering MLB of course ichiro wins but he also got to the majors earlier. in japan both were huge stars. ichiro was a hit machine and matsui was a HR machine. obviously ichiros skills translated better to the majors but who wins if we add their respective careers? I want you here to not weigh achievemnets according to the leagues quality (of course this is wrong as the MLB is stronger) but act like it was one career.

    does have anyone the added stats (at least hits, HR, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS) for the two?
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    Ichiro
    100.00%
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    Matsui
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    Last edited by dominik; 01-11-2013, 04:29 PM.
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    Combined Ichiro has 3,884 careers hits right now. I think it is quite possible that had Ichiro come to the majors at age 21 he would be chasing 4,000 hits, perhaps even Pete Rose, right now.

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      I'll take Ichiro.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
        Combined Ichiro has 3,884 careers hits right now. I think it is quite possible that had Ichiro come to the majors at age 21 he would be chasing 4,000 hits, perhaps even Pete Rose, right now.

        http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/..._ichiro_suzuki
        doesn't matsui have over 500 combined HRs?
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        • #5
          Ichiro was one of the finest outfielders in the world. Matsui ended up as a DH. I'll take Ichiro's defense and 4000 hits.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
            Ichiro was one of the finest outfielders in the world. Matsui ended up as a DH. I'll take Ichiro's defense and 4000 hits.
            Uh, yeah, I'll take the guy who can field and run too.
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            • #7
              Ichiro's career:

              http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...=Ichiro-Suzuki

              Godzilla's career:

              http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...=Hideki-Matsui

              You'll have to add up the Japan years. Note that for Ichiro the Japan West league is a minor league.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dominik View Post
                doesn't matsui have over 500 combined HRs?
                Yes he does. However, Ichiro has twice as many major league hits than NPB hits. Two-thirds of Matsui's career home runs are NPB home runs. That's far less impressive than Ichiro's hit total.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                  Yes he does. However, Ichiro has twice as many major league hits than NPB hits. Two-thirds of Matsui's career home runs are NPB home runs. That's far less impressive than Ichiro's hit total.
                  The way the HOF voting seems to be going, if he had retired last year, do you think he would have gotten in first ballet? I would have said yes last week, but rejecting Biggio surprised me.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by White Knight View Post
                    The way the HOF voting seems to be going, if he had retired last year, do you think he would have gotten in first ballet? I would have said yes last week, but rejecting Biggio surprised me.
                    I think Ichiro would have. Ichiro has lots of "shiny things" that HoF voters like: batting titles, oodles of 200-hit seasons, the all-time single season hit record, and a bunch of Gold Gloves.
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