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  • Intentionally walked with the bases loaded

    how many times has this happened again? I know it happened to Bonds* a few years ago, Nap Lajoie in 1901 and atleast 2 or 3 other times in history to players whos names I can't remember but read about before.
    Last edited by Blackout; 05-27-2006, 04:38 PM.

  • #2
    I remember it happening to Bonds before he was juiced up (or at least before his '01 explosion).

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    • #3
      Mel Ott in 1929
      Barry Bonds in 1998
      Nap Lajoie in 1901
      Bill Nicholson in 1944

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      • #4
        I believe this happened to Ruth in '21. I'll have to check.

        Had intentional walks or "first four pitch" walks been kept back then, we'd likely all be blown away by his totals, even knowing who we're dealing with.
        "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

        ROY / ERA+ Title / Cy Young / WS MVP / HR Title / Gold Glove / Comeback POY / BA Title / MVP / All Star / HOF

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
          I believe this happened to Ruth in '21. I'll have to check.

          Had intentional walks or "first four pitch" walks been kept back then, we'd likely all be blown away by his totals, even knowing who we're dealing with.
          I find it hard to believe he would've had more than Bonds* in 04 though

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          • #6
            The 1998 IW to Bonds was ordered by former Yank skipper Buck Showalter. It worked BTW and AZ defeated SFO.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blackout805
              I find it hard to believe he would've had more than Bonds* in 04 though
              Completely agree. That took the cake.
              "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

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              • #8
                On May 23, 1901 the A’s scored twice in the ninth to close to 11-7 with the bases loaded and no outs. Chicago's manager/top pitcher Clark Griffith relieved Zaza Harvey and intentionally walked Lajoie, forcing in a run. Griffith then induced three groundouts to complete the victory.

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                • #9
                  i would image that many have been walked in such a fashion by the pitcher being too careful with a feared opposing batter whether technically intentional or not

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                    Mel Ott in 1929
                    Barry Bonds in 1998
                    Nap Lajoie in 1901
                    Bill Nicholson in 1944
                    After hitting 4 consecutive home runs in a Sunday double header Bill was given an intentional pass with the bases loaded. He had hit one home run Friday night, one home run Saturday and four one Sunday, six home runs in the last 48 hours. No wonder.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
                      I believe this happened to Ruth in '21. I'll have to check.
                      I was wrong. It was '23.

                      Creamer-

                      "He was walked the startling total of 170 times, more than half of them intentional or almost so. Once he was walked purposely with the bases loaded."
                      "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

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                      • #12
                        No way to really know how many intentional walks Ruth had, not recorded until the mid 1950's.

                        I did post some numbers a while back on this board. Numbers I got from going over some box scores in the news archives. Very time consuming, to do a whole season, I might not live that long.

                        Don't recall the season, I believe the early 1920's. I looked over a 22 game stretch and came up with 14 IBB's.

                        From the book, "The Babe In Red Stockings." In the season of 1918.
                        August 17, two IBB.
                        August 18, one IBB
                        August 20, one IBB
                        August 21 or 22, two IBB.
                        The above dates may not be exact, hard to follow the text as it is written up in the book. One thing certain all those IBB's did come in that short span of games.

                        Earlier that season of 1918 in June.
                        In one game, one IBB.
                        In the next game his last three at bats, all IBB.
                        In the next game his first two at bats, two IBB.
                        That gave him five consecutive IBB over two games.
                        These are seasons where his power was becoming more evident, part time pitcher, outfielder and first baseman and he was already striking fear in the opposition. In one article in the Chicago Tribune they were calling him , The Boston Terror.

                        It's my belief that he did receive a good number of IBB's in the 1920's, how many we may never know. It should be noted that the game was much different then, it was a macho thing. Many managers would be hesitent to to issue IBB, not the manly thing to do, even with a guy who was hitting monster home runs and in some years more than some teams. If your not scared of him, who would you be scared of. It's a different game today.
                        Last edited by SHOELESSJOE3; 05-30-2006, 09:46 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3
                          Earlier that season of 1918 in June.
                          In one game, one IBB.
                          In the next game his last three at bats, all IBB.
                          In the next game his first two at bats, two IBB.
                          That gave him five consecutive IBB over two games.
                          Good work Joe.

                          Easy to see why, with what he did in June that year.

                          1918

                          May 20 - Ruth came down with a bad cold. He had severe swelling of the larynx and was having trouble breathing and speaking. Rumors had him dying. He stayed in the hospital for a week, received flowers from Carrigan and the team captain, Hoblitzell. He pinch hit on May 30th.

                          June 2 - His first game back in the lineup, Babe pitched to a 4 – 3 loss, but hits a home run.

                          June 3 - Ruth plays centerfield in place of an injured Amos Strunk, and hits another dinger.

                          June 4 - Played centerfield again and hit another homer.

                          June 5 - Played centerfield again and hit another homer. His fourth in his first four games back from illness.

                          June 15 - The Bambino hits his 8th homer of the year and has 5 RBI.

                          June 25 - Babe hits his ninth home run of the year and was referred to in print for the first time as the “Home Run King.”

                          June 28 - Babe’s tenth clout of the year is the only hit the Sox have in a 1 – 3 loss in Washington.

                          June 30 - Hits number eleven off Walter Johnson. It comes with one man on in the tenth inning, and gives the Sox a 3 – 1 win. It’s the longest drive ever hit in Washington.


                          If we only had all the numbers we'd see that he was indeed the most feared slugger ever, and for good reason.
                          "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

                          ROY / ERA+ Title / Cy Young / WS MVP / HR Title / Gold Glove / Comeback POY / BA Title / MVP / All Star / HOF

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                          • #14
                            theres also a baseball player from Winthrop, Maine who was IBB'd with the bases juiced

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                            • #15
                              July 26,1926 Indian's pitcher Joe shanti ordered to give Ruth an intentional pass, 6th inning bases loaded. Frustrated, the Babe swung at what would have been ball four. In doing so he was called out by ump Brick Owens, for crossing the plate.

                              In at least a dozen at bats in 1923 Ruth batted right handed when opposing teams were about to give him him an IBB. In one game he batted RH in the 8th and 11th innings. Both times they chose to walk him batting RH.

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