Was Ernie Shore's 9 innings of perfect relief for Babe Ruth, a perfect game?
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Ernie Shore Perfect Game?
33Yes27.27%9No, just a no-hitter72.73%24Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.Tags: None
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Here is what my 1981 official Baseball Record Book says about this game played in Boston on June 23, 1917:
" *Shore's performance is classified as a perfect game even though he did not start the game. George (Babe) Ruth, Boston's starting pitcher, was removed by umpire Clarence (Brick) Owens after giving up a base on balls to Ray Morgan, the first batter. Shore, without warming up, took Ruth's place. Morgan was retired trying to steal second. From then on, Shore faced 26 batters, with none reaching base."
I'm sure this ruling as a "perfect game" was later reversed -- even though Shore gave up no baserunners and was on the mound for all 27 outs. The game was clearly a "combined no hitter" -- but with no less honor and respect due to Ernie Shore for tossing a truly magnificent game.
BTW: this book lists MLB "No-Hitters" as well as Perfect games, but the no-hitters are divided into three groups:
* No-Hit Games -- Ten or more innings
* No-hit games -- Nine Innings
* Less than Nine Innings
If a game is called after five innings, the pitcher can be given credit for a 5-inning no-hitter. (Doesn't seem fair, does it?)Luke
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Westsidegrounds:
"No, he gets credit for the pickoff too. He retired 27 straight, at which point the game ended with his team victorious. That's a perfect game."
But he did not retire 27 straight batters. A perfect game is 27 men up, 27 men down without reaching base. There is no dispute that Shore pitched 9 innings. Great outing. He just didn't pitch a perfect game.Last edited by Macker; 05-07-2005, 05:02 PM.
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Originally posted by westsidegroundsNo, he gets credit for the pickoff too.
He retired 27 straight, at which point the game ended with his team victorious.
That's a perfect game.
Bob
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Originally posted by nascarfn5I tried to find this boxscore but have had no-luck. Anyone have link?
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