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  • Agente you beat me with the news about Kenny Rodriguez. I guess I typed to much or the news take longer to arrive here in Washington.


    He is young and healthy.

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    • Ha ha ... Sorry about that. I was surprised you didn't already have it posted here.

      Yunel Escobar was activated today, so his injury must not have been too serious. (Last week, they said he had a fracture.)

      As for Kenny Rodriguez, his future depends a lot on who he is with right now. Ecuador is not the best place for a defector, so he better be careful not to get caught by their Immigration people. Until he has papers from a new country, he could still get sent back to Fidel.

      If anyone sees/hears any more info. on Kenny, please be sure to post it.

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      • Didn't Morales go 3-5? 2 H and 1 2B...

        Hmm, looking forward to hear about this Kenny. I guess most of the teams would be happy to get some raw young talent in their team.

        PS: Marti has been doing a good job in Springfield, but imagine his numbers without that HUGE strikeout rating.
        Last edited by Quicksilv3r; 07-27-2006, 05:07 AM.

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        • Hello everyone, I'm new around here, Cubano extended me an invitation. Following up on the article he posted about Rolando Viera, I still dont understand why Viera was never given another shot with a big league organization, in 2002, his first full year in baseball, after missing 2000 in Cuba, and all of 6 games in 01, he posted merely decent numbers, but I have seen other players do much worst and they are given another shot. Could he had been targeted by MLB for trying to sue them back in 00 because of the way they treat Cuban defectors (making them go through the draft, etc) ?
          Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
          Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
          Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

          "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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          • Welcome J.P!

            I am glad you came on board. We have good people here. I am sure Agente Libre can expand a little bit about Rolando Viera.


            Agente: I remember you posted something about Rolando Viera sometime ago about his legal proceedings, etc.

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            • I forgot something J.P. That logo you got belongs to a AAA team.

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              • Originally posted by J.P
                Hello everyone, I'm new around here, Cubano extended me an invitation. Following up on the article he posted about Rolando Viera, I still dont understand why Viera was never given another shot with a big league organization, in 2002, his first full year in baseball, after missing 2000 in Cuba, and all of 6 games in 01, he posted merely decent numbers, but I have seen other players do much worst and they are given another shot. Could he had been targeted by MLB for trying to sue them back in 00 because of the way they treat Cuban defectors (making them go through the draft, etc) ?
                J.P, welcome here to BBF. I'm sure that you will be welcome, as Cubano100%, like Agent Libre, are very good forumers and both very knowledgeable about Cuban Defectors.

                Please share your experience here about Cuban defector baseball players, including their wide-ranging baseball experience in Cuba.

                Thanks.
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                • J.P. -- I was just thinking/wondering the same thing about Viera. It wouldn't surprise me if he was somewhat targeted after the lawsuit, but I think other factors are more to blame:

                  -- Viera was released at the end of 2003 spring training because he was out of shape. It's always really hard to get a job in late March or early April to begin with (there are hundreds of players released that time of year), and being out of shape makes it that much tougher.

                  -- Viera only had pitched for 1.5 seasons, so most teams probably didn't have much info. for him.

                  -- When Viera was released, the new people in charge of the Red Sox claimed that they thought they had drafted Norge Vera (similar last name to Viera), so a lot of teams probably thought Viera was no good.

                  -- Viera either fired his agent, or his agent fired him, in late 2001, and he ended up with some guys who had no real experience as agents. Without a good agent to get a player's name out there, it's almost impossible to get a second chance.

                  -- Viera has had trouble keeping a job. He's been quickly released by several teams and I heard he was actualy kicked out of Mexico or Nicaragua for disciplinary reasons. MLB teams stay away from guys like that unless they are well above average players.

                  Bottom line, Viera was really his own worst enemy. He had a great chance with Boston but was a head case and couldn't stay away from the donuts. When you're 29 years old, like Viera was when he was released in 2003, and you're not taking your career seriously, it's tough to get a second chance. It's a lot easier when you're 21 or 22.
                  Last edited by Agente Libre; 07-27-2006, 01:47 PM.

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                  • Welcome J.P. Hope you enjoy your stay here.
                    Such a pity!

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                    • Michel Abreu went 3-4 with a double and 2 RBI. Ave 348. He now has 20 doubles and 12 HR despite arriving late at AA. He is leading his league in Ave, OPS, top 3 in SLU.
                      http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...araax_binaax_1




                      Yunel Escobar went 2-5.
                      Barbaro Canizares 1-4. He now has 18 doubles despite arriving late at AA.
                      http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...sbaax_mobaax_1
                      Last edited by Cubano100%; 07-27-2006, 09:04 PM.

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                      • Thanks everyone, thanks for the info on Viera Agente, here is a good article about him, and the whole cuban defectors situation, its old, but its good (the link to "A case of mistaken ability?" explains how the Red Sox' scout confused him with Norge Vera) :


                        http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2001/0709/1224184.html
                        Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
                        Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
                        Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

                        "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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                        • Hey Cubano, the player getting the more playing time at 1B for the Mets' AAA team, is Jose Offerman, hitting 228, 6HR, 28 RBI; and Abreu cant get a chance?????? Puzzling.
                          Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
                          Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
                          Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

                          "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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                          • Roberto Alvarez playing in DSL:

                            http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/a...pbp&pid=504385
                            Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
                            Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
                            Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

                            "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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                            • Yuliesky Gourriel defected? to Yanks????


                              http://www.minorleagueball.com/story.../28/16914/7801

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                              • If this is true!!!

                                http://www.elnacional.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=59855

                                Yuliesky and Paret defect today! the two top players, arguably in Cuba.

                                Please give more info if you guys know this is true

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