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  • I doubt that, unless Delgado goes down. IMO, the only chance of Abreu succeeding is if he's either traded or Delgado gets hurt.
    "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
    -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

    Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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    • I remember Omar saying Abreu was in our plans for next season.

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      • It is hard for me to believe a 50 year old guy in Franco is ahead of Abreu even if Abreu has 0 MLB experience. Sometimes, I do not understand MLB for sure.

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        • "In our plans" generally means, in Omarspeak, one of two things...
          -Such-and-such a player really is a keeper.
          -Such-and-such a player will be promoted higher in the Minors over the course of the season.

          Nothing about playing a guy regularly. Otherwise, Milledge and Gomez would be played regularly...

          "It is hard for me to believe a 50 year old guy in Franco is ahead of Abreu even if Abreu has 0 MLB experience."

          Well, Omar is keeping his promise to the 48-year-old Franco. He's keeping him in the Majors till he hits his 50th birthday, then he probably makes him a coach. But Franco IS purely a bench player. In other words, what I'm saying is that if Delgado goes down, Franco would continue to stay on the bench. Damion Easley, David Newhan, and Michel Abreu (before Mike Carp, IMO) would all likely get shots at being the first sacker if that scenario happens.
          "They put me in the Hall of Fame? They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel!"
          -Eppa Rixey, upon learning of his induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

          Motafy (MO-ta-fy) vt. -fied, -fying 1. For a pitcher to melt down in a big game situation; to become like Guillermo Mota. 2. The transformation of a good pitcher into one of Guillermo Mota's caliber.

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          • From Stan McNeal of The Sporting News:

            Cuban defector Yunel Escobar, the Braves' second-round pick in 2005, has lost standing in the organization and is available in a trade. In 2006, he struggled at times at the plate and in the field. Another of the club's young shortstops, Elvis Andrus, continues to be impressive. Andrus, 18, is a name to remember because scouts say he has the tools to become the next great shortstop out of Venezuela. He can hit, too.

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            • Originally posted by Cubano100%
              The living condition of Cuban players has improved a little bit after a few defections. They now stay at hotels (not the best ones) but at least they do not sleep in a lodging room. The best hotels are for tourists: Canadians, Europeans, Latin-Americans, etc.

              Now they are fed better than in the past. The MLB type of life or even the minor league conditions are way better than their life in Cuba. After the National Series is over, those that do not make the Cuban team go back to their hometown where they do not enjoy privileges.

              They travel in busses.


              I saw a documentary in TV Marti about Cuban defectors. The Santi Spiritus supersonic, RHP Mael Rodriguez, had a surgery in his shoulder. Mael used to throw 100-101 MPH. Former big leaguer RHP Rolando Arrojo paid for the surgery. Mael and other Cuban defectors are training in Tampa with former team Cuban head trainer Miguel Valdez. Valdez defected with Contreras in Mexico. Some Cubans that are training with him are Contreras, Yuniesky Betancourt (Mariners), RHP and ex-big leaguer Vladimir Nunez (had elbow surgery), Mael Rodriguez (I hope he can make it) and probably others.


              The documentary is from October 2006. Vladimir Nunez was playing in Venezuela this winter.
              They are fed better, but most of them dont eat the steak or the ham and cheese sandwiches, they keep it(sometimes wrapping it in newspaper paper) to give it to their kids when they get home.
              Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
              Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
              Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

              "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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              • Yoslan Herrera was named the Pirates' #4 prospect by Baseball America.
                Yankees' payroll: $250 millions
                Marlins' payroll: $50 millions
                Marlins winning The Series: Priceless

                "Visiting Americans love going to Cuban games because with no free agency, no franchise movement and no owners blackmailing cities for new stadiums, it all smacks of 1950's America, ignoring the inconvenient fact that such a fantasyland is only possible in a dictatorship"-S.L. Price

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                • Yeah, its true J.P. They are Mostly fathers and the only way to feed their family (more or less normal) is by keeping most of the food their given in the hotels. But they eat better than others in the country. I mean: maybe they donĀ“t eat all the ham, but they eat ham.

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                  • Originally posted by J.P
                    Yoslan Herrera was named the Pirates' #4 prospect by Baseball America.

                    How come? He has not pitched yet in America and he is already # 4.

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                    • Herrera

                      Because he's with the Pirates!!!!

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                      • Miguel Tejera

                        Hey cubano, what do you know about
                        Miguel Tejera, who was on the Mexican roster for the Caribbean
                        series. Played with Fresno in AAA last year and had decent numbers.

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                        • J.P. may know more about him than I do. I believed he defected while with the junior team. He pitched in the Majors with the Marlins for some time. After that, he has been mostly in AAA. He put good numbers in AAA so I do not know why he is not considered for a relief spot. He is a lefty and they are hard to find.

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                          • Tejera defected as a 17-year-old back in the mid-'90s and has pitched in parts of 5 ML seasons. He's not overpowering and allows too many walks, which has probably kept him from sticking in the majors as a lefty specialist. He'll probably have a Triple-A job for as long as he wants to pitch, but he'll have to cut down on the walks to stay in MLB for extended periods.

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                            • I just found out that the Pirates have signed another Cuban pitcher.



                              Serguey Linares, who is listed as 23, is a Cuban defector with a big fastball and little else. He had a career record of 7-20 with a 5.59 ERA in 37 games as a pro in Cuba. While he's getting an invitation to spring training, he probably won't open the year higher than Double-A.


                              Thank you Kiefer.

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                              • Let me take a moment here to pay tribute to the pitching coaches in Pinar del Rio specially Juan Carlos Oliva.

                                Juan Carlos Oliva is the brother of former Cuban MLguer Tony Oliva. Juan was a pitcher in Cuba and he was one of the best in his time. He has been the Pinar del Rio pitching coach for quite a while. Juan Carlos Oliva has developed the following pitchers:

                                In USA

                                Jose Contreras White Sox
                                Danys Baez Orioles
                                Alain Soler Mets
                                Yuslan Herrera Pirates
                                Serguey Linares Pirates

                                In Cuba and sure MLguers or AAA pitchers


                                Veteran RHP Pedro Lazo WBC
                                26 year old Yuniesky Maya WBC
                                22-23 year old RHP Vladimir Banos Intercontinental Cup
                                22 year RHP old Jose Melendis World University Games
                                RHP Raidel Miranda


                                Lazo is the number one starter in Pinar del Rio followed by Banos, Melendis and Miranda. Maya is the closer.


                                Another Pinar del Rio former pitcher and a great one too is one of the pitching coaches for the Industriales. His name is Julio Romero. The Industriales pitching staff is also one of the best in Cuba.
                                Last edited by Cubano100%; 02-06-2007, 10:24 PM.

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