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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ichiro51 View Post
    But you have no evidence. Johnny Cochran said the ties to his client of his wife and her friend's killing to OJ are just dishonest arguments and unsupported conspiracy theories...like what you trying to said about the Steinbrenner VS. WBC.
    Sheesh. Too bad this site isn't moderated for silliness. So why don't we all just move on?

    Back to the subject at hand: The 2006 World Baseball Classic teams only carried three legitimate starting pitchers. The rosters that folks have posted here have four starters. I don't see any reason for that. 2009 won't have any more games than 2006; in fact, with double-elimination, there will be fewer total games. So I'll go with three starters.

    And, with that, here're my guesses for a few of the starting staffs for the 2009 squads:

    USA: Smoltz, Peavy, B. Webb
    (Note: There are so many awesome American pitchers, it's hard to choose! Maybe another veteran like Roy Halladay. And Cole Hamels or another young stud like that would be a great pick too. An embarassment of riches.)

    Japan: Matsuzaka, Kuroda, Darvish
    (Koji Uehara is an unrestricted free agent this year, so I'd bet that--like Wang and Matsui did last time--he'll stick with whatever major league club he signs with instead of playing for Team Japan.)

    Venezuela: Santana, C. Zambrano, Felix Hernandez
    (What can you say? Breathtaking.)

    Dominican Republic: Loriano, F. Carmona, Johnny Cueta?
    (Cueta is probably too young, but he's exciting to watch. I think Bartolo Colon is done. But maybe he should get a shot to represent his country one last time? Could do worse.)

    Netherlands: VandenHurk, Martis, Jurrjens
    (That one's easy.)

    Canada: Bedard, Francis, Loewen
    (This is easy too. There's no way, I think, that Rich Harden endangers his fragile arm in international play.)

    I'm running out of steam here, so I'll think about Mexico and Puerto Rico later.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ichiro51 View Post
      NEA - China and Cuba's WBC roster is likely the same from 2006 beside maybe a player or two changes. China and Cuba's National Team practice throughout the years and hardly change who is on the team unless someone retired/defected/or a new stud teenager are too good to leave off the team.

      Many players from Chinese Taipei, Japan and Korea have competed several times for their national team.

      Even with Wang presence, Chinese Taipei won't win. Where is the depth? Chinese Taipei have not been able to beat Japan, Korea, Cuba, etc in international tournaments. They may have won once or twice against these countries but I am not so sure.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Cubano100% View Post
        Even with Wang presence, Chinese Taipei won't win. Where is the depth? Chinese Taipei have not been able to beat Japan, Korea, Cuba, etc in international tournaments. They may have won once or twice against these countries but I am not so sure.
        I don't think anyone honestly thinks Taiwan is a contender to win, place, or show at the 2009 WBC. But with Wang on the starting staff, they could have a shot--not a great one, to be sure--of advancing out of the regional pool. I mean, if Chan Ho Park hadn't had MVP stuff in the 2006 tournament, who knows how far Korea would have gotten? And who knows how a weaker Team Korea would match up against a Wang-led Taiwanese squad?

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        • #49
          Korea has been fighting Japan in all kind of tournaments. They have lost several games by one run. I still think even with Wang, Korea and Japan should advance.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Cubano100% View Post
            Korea has been fighting Japan in all kind of tournaments. They have lost several games by one run. I still think even with Wang, Korea and Japan should advance.
            Yeah, that's probably right.

            Anyone care to speculate who Korea's starting pitchers will be? All of the MLB prospects I've followed have been busts (except, of course, that kid pitching low A ball for the Cubs).

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Americanoutlaw2.0 View Post
              Tean USA

              Starting Pitchers
              1-Josh Beckett
              2-Justin Verlander
              3-C.C Sabathia
              4-Brandon Webb

              Bullpen
              Pat Neschek
              Clayton Kershaw
              Jonathan Papelbon
              Joba Chamberian
              JJ Putz
              Manny Delcarmen
              Shaun Marcum
              Dan Haren
              Zack Greinke
              Matt Cain

              Infielders
              Ryan Howard
              Price Fielder
              Chase Utley
              Dustin Pedroia/Troy Tulowitzki
              Derek Jeter
              Ryan Zimerman
              Alex Gordon


              Outfielders
              Grady Sizemore
              Carl Crawford
              Jacoby Ellsbury
              Ryan Braun
              Jeff Franceour
              Nick Markakis

              Catchers
              Brain McCann
              Jason Varitek
              Jarrod Saitalamacchia


              DH
              Ryan Howard
              Price Fielder
              Ryan Zimerman
              Jarrod Saitalamacchia
              Brain McCann
              Nick Markakis

              Manager and Coaches
              Manager-Tommy Lasorda
              Bench Coach-Davey Johnson
              1B Coach-Reggie Smith
              3B Coach-Ken Griffey SR
              Pitching Coach-Jimmy Keys
              Leo Mazzone
              Hitting Coach-Don Mattingly
              Bullpen Coach-Gary Carter
              __________________
              I trying redo this roster by add some AAA stars and american players who play oversea

              anyone want to help???
              Last edited by Americanoutlaw2.0; 04-24-2008, 12:08 PM.

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              • #52
                can someone do mexico??

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cubano100% View Post
                  Korea has been fighting Japan in all kind of tournaments. They have lost several games by one run. I still think even with Wang, Korea and Japan should advance.
                  Even without Wang, Korea and Taiwan will go head to head and nobody could predict who will win.
                  Taiwan has deep pitching. Lin En Yu, Chang Chi Chia are very tough pitcher to beat.

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                  • #54
                    Taiwan is going to have hard time to beat Korea if they send their A team...the half dozen guys who had experiences in the MLB and the bats of Seung Yeop and Dae Ho Lee.
                    Frank's Field of Dreams
                    "If I build it, you'll come."

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                    • #55
                      Here is my attempt at selecting the Mexican squad:

                      Team-Mexico

                      Starting Pitchers
                      1-Yovani Gallardo
                      2-Francisco Campos
                      3-Oliver Pérez
                      4-Esteban Loaiza

                      Bullpen-
                      Luis Ayala
                      David Cortés
                      Édgar González
                      Joakim Soria
                      Pablo Ortega
                      Andres Meza
                      Dennys Reyes
                      Ricardo Rincón
                      Luis Navarro
                      Elmer Dessens

                      Total Pitchers-14


                      Catchers
                      Gerónimo Gil
                      Miguel Ojeda
                      Cesar Tapia

                      Total number of Catchers-3


                      Infielders-
                      Jorge Cantú
                      Hernando Arredondo
                      Luis Cruz
                      Erubiel Durazo
                      Benji Gil
                      Adrián González
                      Francisco Mendez

                      Totals numbers of Infielders-7


                      Outfielders-
                      Karim García
                      Luis Alfonso García
                      Luis Carlos "Clipper" Garcia
                      Christian Quintero
                      Alfredo Amézaga
                      Sergio Contreras


                      Totals of Outfielders-6



                      DH
                      Pick players form Outfielders and Infielders-
                      Erubiel Durazo
                      Karim García
                      Cesar Tapia

                      Totals Numbers of players-30

                      Manager-Francisco Estrada

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Ichiro51 View Post
                        Taiwan is going to have hard time to beat Korea if they send their A team...the half dozen guys who had experiences in the MLB and the bats of Seung Yeop and Dae Ho Lee.
                        Korea has no dominating pitcher. Taiwan has some. Lin En Yu, Chang Chi Chia, Kuo Hong Chi.

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                        • #57
                          Taiwanese pitcher are not dominating...most of them's fastball tops out at 90 mph.

                          If Lin/Chang are so great then Lin would not be pitching in Japan's Minor League more than he has done on the Ichi-Team. Chang got released by Seibu and no MLB team showed interest even on a Minor League contract when he did workouts in Arizona. Taiwan also have absolute no HR threat other than Chin-Feng Chen, sluggers like Tai-Shang Chang, Chia-Hsien Hsieh looked silly when they face pitchers with 90 mph because most CPBL pitchers they faced's fastball is about 80-85 mph range.
                          Frank's Field of Dreams
                          "If I build it, you'll come."

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ichiro51 View Post
                            Taiwan is going to have hard time to beat Korea if they send their A team...the half dozen guys who had experiences in the MLB and the bats of Seung Yeop and Dae Ho Lee.
                            I really have no idea if Korea or Taiwan is better. My gut tells me it's Korea, but that's largely based on the team's performance in the WBC and the Olympic qualifiers this year. But I think it should be noted that Lee Seung Yeop isn't likely to bring much of a bat to the 2009 WBC. He's terrible: http://eastwindupchronicle.com/lee-seung-yeop-demoted/.

                            Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
                            Here is my attempt at selecting the Mexican squad:

                            Team-Mexico

                            Starting Pitchers
                            1-Yovani Gallardo
                            2-Francisco Campos
                            3-Oliver Pérez
                            4-Esteban Loaiza

                            Bullpen-
                            Luis Ayala
                            David Cortés
                            Édgar González
                            Joakim Soria
                            Pablo Ortega
                            Andres Meza
                            Dennys Reyes
                            Ricardo Rincón
                            Luis Navarro
                            Elmer Dessens

                            Total Pitchers-14


                            Catchers
                            Gerónimo Gil
                            Miguel Ojeda
                            Cesar Tapia

                            Total number of Catchers-3


                            Infielders-
                            Jorge Cantú
                            Hernando Arredondo
                            Luis Cruz
                            Erubiel Durazo
                            Benji Gil
                            Adrián González
                            Francisco Mendez

                            Totals numbers of Infielders-7


                            Outfielders-
                            Karim García
                            Luis Alfonso García
                            Luis Carlos "Clipper" Garcia
                            Christian Quintero
                            Alfredo Amézaga
                            Sergio Contreras


                            Totals of Outfielders-6



                            DH
                            Pick players form Outfielders and Infielders-
                            Erubiel Durazo
                            Karim García
                            Cesar Tapia

                            Totals Numbers of players-30

                            Manager-Francisco Estrada
                            Not too frightening, huh? Mexico's lucky that they're playing in front of hometown fans in the first round--and against the easiest draw in the tournament (South Africa and Australia). It'll be a real fight between Korea and Mexico in the second round to see who's worse.

                            With its abysmal showing at the Olympic qualifiers, is there someone out there who can put in a good word for Mexican baseball?
                            Last edited by Rally Monkey; 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Ichiro51 View Post
                              Taiwanese pitcher are not dominating...most of them's fastball tops out at 90 mph.

                              If Lin/Chang are so great then Lin would not be pitching in Japan's Minor League more than he has done on the Ichi-Team. Chang got released by Seibu and no MLB team showed interest even on a Minor League contract when he did workouts in Arizona.
                              Lin already proved himself in 2007 WC. When he is healthy, he is simply unhitterable. In Asia Baseball Championship 2007, he felt sudden pain in his back at 5th inning of the game against Korea and allowed three-run homer as the result.
                              Also Chang was arguably best pitcher in Final Qualifier of Olympic.

                              Taiwan also have absolute no HR threat other than Chin-Feng Chen, sluggers like Tai-Shang Chang, Chia-Hsien Hsieh looked silly when they face pitchers with 90 mph because most CPBL pitchers they faced's fastball is about 80-85 mph range.
                              Actually no HR threat is the problem of Team Korea. In Final Qualifier of Olympic, Korea hit only two home runs, which is same as Germany.

                              I think the weak point of Taiwan is their defense. Some of their infielders are just horrible at glove.

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                              • #60
                                Team Canada
                                1-Erik Bedard
                                2-Rich Harden
                                3-Jeff Francis
                                4-Adam Loewen


                                Bullpen
                                Jesse Crain
                                Ryan Braun
                                Scott Mathieson
                                Shawn Hill
                                Ryan Dempster
                                Aaron Myette
                                Phillipe Aumont
                                Eric Gagne
                                Eric Cyr
                                Chris Begg


                                Catchers
                                Russell Martin
                                Christopher Robinson
                                George Kottaras

                                Infielders
                                Justin Morneau
                                Joey Votto
                                Scott Thorman
                                Danny Klassen
                                Kevin Nicholson
                                Taylor Green
                                Pete Orr

                                Outfielders
                                Jason Bay
                                Matt Stairs
                                Mark Teahan
                                Jamie Romak
                                Adam Stern
                                Sebastien Boucher

                                Manager-Ernie Whitt

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