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How can Team USA get good for 2009 WBC

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  • How can Team USA get good for 2009 WBC

    Team USA will look to do way better than they did in 2006 but it will take somethings to give them any hope of doing better than last time. One of the main thing that hurt Team USA last time in the 2006 WBC was the low number of good players. There would some good players for Team USA like Ken Griffey, Jr,Jake Peavy, Joe Nathan, and Alex Rodriguez but other stars stay home. The folks who put tougher Team USA need to do a better job this time to get all of the best talents t o help build up the team. One of the main thing team USA need is a better manager I mean let face it Buck Martinez is just a bad manager and hope they don't have him as manager again. There are better former managers and coaches out there who could better job as manager than Buck Martinez. You guys like Don Mattingly,Bob Brenly ,Tommy Lasorda ,Davey Johnson and Gary Carter. The one I think would be the best would be Tommy Lasorda seeing he still has ton of fire in him and could sucker in a lot of the players in who said they wouldn't play for Team USA like Oh did for Team Japen. For filling up the roster maybe try get some top prospects like Matt Wieters ,Travis Snider, Austin Jackson and Matt LaPorta to play along side the MLB players and maybe top college players like Stephen Strasburg or players form Independent teams on team USA.
    Team USA will face up hill battle

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    I am wondering if Team USA was given the right tools last time with a lot of managers seemingly against their star players playing in the tournament. If the team had the full support of all MLB clubs and every top player was made available to play the selection of manager would probably not be such an issue, as the all star team that could be selected could almost manage themselves.
    "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." ~Humphrey Bogart

    No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference. ~Tommy Lasorda

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    • #3
      I think Team USA will be much better prepared for 2009 and the WBC will be taken more seriously than 2006.

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      • #4
        I made this idea for the manager and coaches

        Manager
        Tommy Lasorda

        Bench Coach
        Davey Johnson

        1B&3B Coaches
        Ryne Sandberg
        Gary Carter

        Hitting Coach
        Don Mattingly

        Pitching Coach
        Leo Mazzone

        special instructor
        Rickey Henderson


        I have idea for Bullpen Coach any ideas??

        rest of possiable can just be filled out

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        • #5
          it will come down to the manager

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          • #6
            No, it won't. The manager and coaches are mostly figureheads in tournaments like this. It's like an All-Star Game. The Team USA players will mostly end up managing themselves, like DownUnderDodger said.

            The only way I can see a manager coming into play is during late one-run games, where bullpens and pinch-hitters are used. I don't view Buck Martinez being much different than anyone else Team USA can trot out there.
            46 wins to match last year's total

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Americanoutlaw2.0 View Post
              Team USA will look to do way better than they did in 2006 but it will take somethings to give them any hope of doing better than last time. One of the main thing that hurt Team USA last time in the 2006 WBC was the low number of good players. There would some good players for Team USA like Ken Griffey, Jr,Jake Peavy, Joe Nathan, and Alex Rodriguez but other stars stay home. The folks who put tougher Team USA need to do a better job this time to get all of the best talents t o help build up the team. One of the main thing team USA need is a better manager I mean let face it Buck Martinez is just a bad manager and hope they don't have him as manager again. There are better former managers and coaches out there who could better job as manager than Buck Martinez. You guys like Don Mattingly,Bob Brenly ,Tommy Lasorda ,Davey Johnson and Gary Carter. The one I think would be the best would be Tommy Lasorda seeing he still has ton of fire in him and could sucker in a lot of the players in who said they wouldn't play for Team USA like Oh did for Team Japen. For filling up the roster maybe try get some top prospects like Matt Wieters ,Travis Snider, Austin Jackson and Matt LaPorta to play along side the MLB players and maybe top college players like Stephen Strasburg or players form Independent teams on team USA.
              Team USA will face up hill battle
              Every team had key star players missing. Also, the eventual champion Japanese team only had two major leaguers (Ichiro and Akinori Otsuka) on their roster.
              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                Every team had key star players missing. Also, the eventual champion Japanese team only had two major leaguers (Ichiro and Akinori Otsuka) on their roster.
                But the fact is that they had a lot of their top players, HWR.
                46 wins to match last year's total

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                  But the fact is that they had a lot of their top players, HWR.
                  And so did Team USA in '06. Japan had several of their best players not play in '06 and they still won.
                  Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                    And so did Team USA in '06. Japan had several of their best players not play in '06 and they still won.
                    True. If they were the same amount of preparedness, which is minimal, then anyone has a shot at it, I guess.
                    46 wins to match last year's total

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                      True. If they were the same amount of preparedness, which is minimal, then anyone has a shot at it, I guess.
                      Bingo! That's why Team USA did poorly. They spent literally one week to prepare and played one practice game against the San Francisco Giants. Is that anyway to prepare for a major international competition? The Japanese team I think spent 3-4 weeks preparing for the WBC. And it showed.
                      Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                      • #12
                        The USA can win if they prepare.
                        It's the same as with basketball. They played with minimum preparation and get their ass handed. Ten years ago they could afford this, but the rest of the world has closed the gap.

                        This year the US Basketball team worked their asses of for months and managed to win the olympics. The same is true for baseball, they need to be in top shape(also mental and tactical) to pull it of.
                        I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                          Bingo! That's why Team USA did poorly. They spent literally one week to prepare and played one practice game against the San Francisco Giants. Is that anyway to prepare for a major international competition? The Japanese team I think spent 3-4 weeks preparing for the WBC. And it showed.
                          Could not agree more....given the best of the best players and the right preparation it will take a very good team to beat USA in '09. It now remains to be seen if Team USA will get the necessary opportunity.
                          "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." ~Humphrey Bogart

                          No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference. ~Tommy Lasorda

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                            Bingo! That's why Team USA did poorly. They spent literally one week to prepare and played one practice game against the San Francisco Giants. Is that anyway to prepare for a major international competition? The Japanese team I think spent 3-4 weeks preparing for the WBC. And it showed.
                            True dat - I'm sure many on here have read You Gotta Have Wa or The Meaning of Ichiro that both chronicle the Japanese commitment to training, and training the right way. The Japanese certainly know how to train for a baseball tournament, and they won't lose due to a lack of preparation. Ditto that for Cuba and Korea. It's kinda like the "Redeem Team" this past summer at the Olympic basketball tournament: When USA baseball decides to take the WBC seriously, they'll have a serious opportunity to win the tournament.
                            "I became a good pitcher when I stopped trying to make them miss the ball and started trying to make them hit it." - Sandy Koufax.

                            "My name is Yasiel Puig. I am from Cuba. I am 21 years old. Thank you."

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                            • #15
                              You must consider the japanese culture. In Japan discipline is the first priority and if you loose you are a shame for your country. Failure is not accepted, there where many cases in Japan where people commited suicide when loosing the job or failing at school, because they think they bring shame to their family. Your main focus there is to fullfill your role in the society.

                              Of course the US is a whole different thing. In western countries the focus lies on the individuum and self fulfillment and having fun. It's more self centered. You can't explain to Manny Ramirez(use it as an extreme example for the self centered western culture) to train in his free time for a tournament where he is not even paid much.

                              With Ichiro for example it's a whole different thing. If he's asked to do it he won't even think about not doing this because it's a question of honour. He was drilled to think that way since he was a young child.

                              A person like Manny ramirez would not be accepted in japan.
                              I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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