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  • The Qualifier pools seem to give a huge edge to #18 Spain, and to #7 Taiwan; while making things almost level for Panama, and making things very difficult for #17 Germany.

    QUALIFIER ONE - September 20-24 at Armin-Wolf-Arena, Regensburg, Germany - #17 Germany hosting #6 Canada, #20 Czech, #23 Britain

    QUALIFIER TWO - November dates TBD at Roger Dean Stadium, Jupiter, Florida - #18 Spain, #35 South Africa, #41 France, #48 Israel

    QUALIFIER THREE - November dates TBD at Xinziang Stadium, New Taipei City, Taiwan - #7 Taiwan hosting #22 Thailand, #28 Philippines, Unranked/#78 New Zealand

    QUALIFIER FOUR - November 14-18 at Estadio Rod Carew, Panama City, Panama - #15 Panama hosting #14 Nicaragua, # 26 Colombia, #33 Brazil

    So Spain's strongest opponent is ranked 17 places lower, and Taiwan's strongest opponent is ranked 15 places lower.

    This compares to Panama's strongest opponent which is ranked one place higher, and Germany's strongest opponent which is ranked 11 places higher.

    Things may not be so bad for #17 Germany though. There seems to be a consensus that Canada is ranked way above where it should be ranked. Plus Germany will have home field advantage over Canada.

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    • Originally posted by TheInternationalGame View Post
      IBAF has a deal with the online streaming service LiveSport.tv (http://www.ibaf.livesport.tv/) but the BWC was rather expensive, something like 7€ a game and 35€ for the tournament.

      I would imagine all games in Regensburg are covered by Legionaere.tv and Baseball Deutschland since they also have done the MLB Academy, would allow for a decent coverage.

      In Florida you might have regional coverage, in Taiwan the same. ESPN Deportes / International usually shows up for MLB events even if they don't cover it to the extent that some of us would want :-)
      I am guessing there will be NO televison coverage of this at all......And you'll be lucky to find online too...

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      • Remember...they broadcast the Caribbean Series AND the ABL FROM THE STUDIO IN NEW JERSEY.....NOT IN PERSON. IT IS AWFUL

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        • Originally posted by PLowry View Post
          The Qualifier pools seem to give a huge edge to #18 Spain, and to #7 Taiwan; while making things almost level for Panama, and making things very difficult for #17 Germany.

          QUALIFIER ONE - September 20-24 at Armin-Wolf-Arena, Regensburg, Germany - #17 Germany hosting #6 Canada, #20 Czech, #23 Britain

          QUALIFIER TWO - November dates TBD at Roger Dean Stadium, Jupiter, Florida - #18 Spain, #35 South Africa, #41 France, #48 Israel

          QUALIFIER THREE - November dates TBD at Xinziang Stadium, New Taipei City, Taiwan - #7 Taiwan hosting #22 Thailand, #28 Philippines, Unranked/#78 New Zealand

          QUALIFIER FOUR - November 14-18 at Estadio Rod Carew, Panama City, Panama - #15 Panama hosting #14 Nicaragua, # 26 Colombia, #33 Brazil

          So Spain's strongest opponent is ranked 17 places lower, and Taiwan's strongest opponent is ranked 15 places lower.

          This compares to Panama's strongest opponent which is ranked one place higher, and Germany's strongest opponent which is ranked 11 places higher.

          Things may not be so bad for #17 Germany though. There seems to be a consensus that Canada is ranked way above where it should be ranked. Plus Germany will have home field advantage over Canada.
          I think we are giving way to much credit to Spain. I actually expect very little from them in that qualifier

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          • Plowry u r analyzing this way to much. Spain is not going to win. IF Israel have major leaguers there done. The ibaf rankings is a joke. Pool 2 is a toss up if Israel have MLB players it's theirs to win.Pool 4 is the toughest it is el grupo de la muerte. I pick panama. Pool 3 it's Chinese Taipei to win especially having home field advantage. IMO it's the weakest pool out of all them. I never seen NZ ever play in international competition but I might be wrong. Philippines and Thailand always get slaughtered when they get invited in the world cup.

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            • I forgot pool 1 it's between Germany and Canada to win.

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              • Who else saw the article about the Korean players boycotting the WBC. That is their current status.... Not good.....

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                • Originally posted by Unit312J View Post
                  Who else saw the article about the Korean players boycotting the WBC. That is their current status.... Not good.....
                  The Korean Player's Union is using their WBC participation as a bargaining chip to drive the KBO's expansion to 10 teams. We'll stay tuned...
                  http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...36_108604.html

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                  • Wow, it's really interesting how the WBC has apparently given the Japanese players--and now Korean players--so much more leverage than they had before. I'm not sure how this will all settle out, but the players' ability to withhold their support for the national team has the potential to reshape player-owner relations across the Asian leagues. Stay tuned!

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                    • Originally posted by Rally Monkey View Post
                      Wow, it's really interesting how the WBC has apparently given the Japanese players--and now Korean players--so much more leverage than they had before. I'm not sure how this will all settle out, but the players' ability to withhold their support for the national team has the potential to reshape player-owner relations across the Asian leagues. Stay tuned!
                      Yep, shows just how big this tourney has already become to some. Not totally related, but is Korea big enough for 10 teams of that size?

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                      • It's because the WBC is something they can risk, since they won't lose any of their salary by boycotting.

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                        • Some international baseball stories worth sharing coming out of the south pacific and middle east(via SF):

                          http://www.ablbuzz.com.au/?p=3043
                          http://www.baseballnewzealand.com/in...journey-begins
                          http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/...ether-for-wbc/

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                          • With the announcement in the New Zealand story above, we now know the dates for three of the four Qualifier Pools:

                            POOL ONE in Armin-Wolf-Arena, Regensburg, Germany --- Thu Sep 20 through Mon Sep 24

                            POOL TWO in Roger Dean Stadium, Jupiter, Florida, USA --- dates in Nov are still unknown

                            POOL THREE in XinZhuang Stadium, Taipei, Taiwan --- Thu Sep 15 through Sun Nov 18

                            POOL FOUR in Estadio Rod Carew, Panama City, Panama --- Wed Nov 14 through Sun Nov 18

                            What do you think the attendance will be in these four pools ? Here is a guess-timate:

                            POOL ONE --- Regensburg, Germany --- capacity 10,500 --- 10,500 for games involving Germany; 4000 for games not involving Germany

                            POOL TWO --- Jupiter, Florida, USA --- capacity 6871 --- no host team --- 6871 for games involving Israel; 5000 for games not involving Israel

                            POOL THREE --- Taipei, Taiwan --- capacity 11,000 --- 11,000 for games involving Taiwan; 3000 for games not involving Taiwan

                            POOL FOUR --- Panama City, Panama --- capacity 27,000 --- 25,000 for games involving Panama; 6000 for games not involving Panama

                            What do you all think about these prospective attendance figures ?

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                            • Originally posted by PLowry View Post

                              What do you think the attendance will be in these four pools ? Here is a guess-timate:

                              POOL ONE --- Regensburg, Germany --- capacity 10,500 --- 10,500 for games involving Germany; 4000 for games not involving Germany

                              POOL TWO --- Jupiter, Florida, USA --- capacity 6871 --- no host team --- 6871 for games involving Israel; 5000 for games not involving Israel

                              POOL THREE --- Taipei, Taiwan --- capacity 11,000 --- 11,000 for games involving Taiwan; 3000 for games not involving Taiwan

                              POOL FOUR --- Panama City, Panama --- capacity 27,000 --- 25,000 for games involving Panama; 6000 for games not involving Panama

                              What do you all think about these prospective attendance figures ?
                              I think thats optimistic, but hard to say whether its actually possible. Doubts abound that fans will travel for this, and locals don't show up even to watch the big teams like Canada on the road, which is unfortunate.

                              Regensburg: Near sellout for Germany games, 2k average for others. As has been mentioned, Czech should represent well given the proximity to Prag and Brno, but GB and Canada probably won't. Has been talk that the stadium will sit 10k as during the BWC in '09, but Germany didnt sell out against China or Venezuela. Doubt it.

                              Jupiter: No sellouts, average of 2.5k. Given Spain and Israel as the regional supported favorites, they could draw more. Depends on the marketing.

                              Taipei: max 2k average for games not involving the hosts. Just no interest in the other countries, and the home fans know their team will advance, so they might stay away.

                              Panama: Would guess max 15k for the hosts games in the final, around 2k for the others. Again, I don't see anyone traveling to Panama City to watch a qualifier.

                              It would be great to see a push by MLBtv to get these covered, and in some way that is free for viewers. This will help grow the interest of the game in the countries that are participating. If your team is playing two thousand kilometers away from home, you won't fly to watch a game you have just moderate interest in, but partnerships to get it on TV in the home market of every team will raise the profile of the national team program and MLB; a win-win situation. Whether its live streaming online, or getting it on tape delay to the sports sender in the country, anything helps! Im sure the teams from the non-hosts especially would second this.
                              Last edited by TheInternationalGame; 04-15-2012, 09:57 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by TheInternationalGame View Post
                                It would be great to see a push by MLBtv to get these covered, and in some way that is free for viewers. This will help grow the interest of the game in the countries that are participating. If your team is playing two thousand kilometers away from home, you won't fly to watch a game you have just moderate interest in, but partnerships to get it on TV in the home market of every team will raise the profile of the national team program and MLB; a win-win situation. Whether its live streaming online, or getting it on tape delay to the sports sender in the country, anything helps! Im sure the teams from the non-hosts especially would second this.
                                Smart comment. Seconded!

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