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  • im not saying they shood do the planning like the soccer world cup but can they atleast do it about 4 or 5 years before so the host can atleast build some practice fields because i think there wingin this wc and the qualifier, let ticket sellers have time to market there product, and maybe if ur in a developed coutry with some generous funding maybe a new stadium ibaf needs to step it up maybe they need a committee tht sits in NY but please bcome more organized

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    • I'm not 100% sure on this....from the contacts I have I know there has been skepticism regarding Venezuela and some of the actions they've pulled recently in IBAF events, i.e. not showing up, showing up late, not bringing equipment, being overly demanding to the host country staff, etc, etc, etc. I had mentioned to my contacts that I was concered that Venezuela would get more tournaments based on the success of the Women's World Cup there, but was told they might not necessairly be to high on them for all the other reasons. But who knows. And who knows when they'll make an announcement to begin with...

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      • Venezuela is crime-ridden almost to the point of being a war zone right now. I can't imagine they'd choose Venezuela over Panama unless politics is allowed to trump common sense (which, of course, is entirely possible). Remember, a player in the Women's World Cup suffered a bullet wound during a game last year.

        I've been to both stadiums in Panama, too, and I can't imagine they'd be considered unacceptable for this event. If Panama could host an Olympic qualifier, then surely they could host an IBAF-level event. I'm guessing they need some upkeep, but that's just how things often are in Latin America. (I remember when the D.R. built the huge Centro Olimpico for the 2003 Pan Am Games. A year later, it was overrun with weeds and vandalized.)

        As for the WBC qualifier, every article and comment just bolsters my original point/idea. There's no sense worrying about getting four or more additional venues ready for WBC-level games when they could simply hold the qualifier at the same time (i.e., immediately before) and the same venues as the main event in 2013.

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        • Originally posted by Agente Libre View Post
          ..... an Olympic qualifier, then surely they could host an IBAF-level event....
          Olympic Qualifier is/was an IBAF event. IBAF is the governing body for Baseball Worldwide. IOC just works together with the (amateur) governing bodies of the different sports. One of the original ideas behind OG is that "amateur" athletes compete against each other. The idea of having amateurs was soaked more and more over the past 2 decades because IOC had problems with marketing and pushed OG with (for example) the AllStars US Basketball Team in the 90s.

          Originally posted by Agente Libre View Post
          As for the WBC qualifier, every article and comment just bolsters my original point/idea. There's no sense worrying about getting four or more additional venues ready for WBC-level games when they could simply hold the qualifier at the same time (i.e., immediately before) and the same venues as the main event in 2013.
          Maybe parts of your original point/idea are right like parts of other ideas but the previous statement showed me that you don´t have that much of an idea of the structure of BB worldwide, the problems resolving out of that or BB outside of the Americas/Pro Leagues.
          Don´t get me wrong I don´t want to offend you with this statement but maybe you will give peoples idea with more backround in this area a chance.
          Last edited by Paula59; 01-26-2011, 05:17 AM.
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          • This is why the WBC is necessary. Call Taiwan. Maybe they can host it again.

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            • i say hold it in september in a five day tournment. mlb an afford a five day break. just hold it in august and if your not one those teams who wouldnt want five days off in the middle of august

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              • Originally posted by Paula59 View Post
                Maybe parts of your original point/idea are right like parts of other ideas but the previous statement showed me that you don´t have that much of an idea of the structure of BB worldwide, the problems resolving out of that or BB outside of the Americas/Pro Leagues.
                Don´t get me wrong I don´t want to offend you with this statement but maybe you will give peoples idea with more backround in this area a chance.
                And, likewise, I don't want to offend you, but you have no idea how silly this is (especially the part in bold).

                Regarding the 2003 Olympic qualifier in Panama, I'm well aware that it was an IBAF-level event,* but it was a feeder for the Olympics, which are a higher-level event than the IBAF-level Baseball World Cup. If Panama was considered an acceptable stop en route to the Olympics, it should be more than acceptable for an IBAF-level event with much lower stakes.

                (* Strictly speaking, I believe COPABE was responsible for organizing the 2003 Americas Qualifier, but I might be wrong about that.)

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                • Originally posted by USA101 View Post
                  i say hold it in september in a five day tournment. mlb an afford a five day break. just hold it in august and if your not one those teams who wouldnt want five days off in the middle of august
                  What is it about international baseball that makes people lose their minds? Baseball is out of the Olympics because MLB absolutely will not shut down during the season (and rightfully so), and now people want MLB to shut down in September (!) for a low-level event like the Baseball World Cup and/or WBC qualifier? No chance of this happening.

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                  • Originally posted by USA101 View Post
                    i say hold it in september in a five day tournment. mlb an afford a five day break. just hold it in august and if your not one those teams who wouldnt want five days off in the middle of august
                    i meant hold it in august

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                    • and if MLB is supporting a tournment during its season and wants its players to be there i think they wood to be atleast willing to allo its players to leave there clubsfor five days and if the season was paused imagine it. from august 6 to the 11 the only thing on espn is the wbc qualifier because the nfl isnt quite started yet nba obviously isnt and neither is the nhl its baseball and tennis and i think baseball rules over tht in america plus it will get america let alone the world the perfect time to watch baseball because club soccer is only in its early stages tht time of the year august 2012 c mon mlb its not tht hard

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                      • Originally posted by USA101 View Post
                        and if MLB is supporting a tournment during its season and wants its players to be there i think they wood to be atleast willing to allo its players to leave there clubsfor five days and if the season was paused imagine it. from august 6 to the 11 the only thing on espn is the wbc qualifier because the nfl isnt quite started yet nba obviously isnt and neither is the nhl its baseball and tennis and i think baseball rules over tht in america plus it will get america let alone the world the perfect time to watch baseball because club soccer is only in its early stages tht time of the year august 2012 c mon mlb its not tht hard
                        So instead of MLB playing up to 75 MLB games over that 5-day period, you think it would be better for a small number of WBC qualifier games to be played -- games that would feature match-ups such as Thailand vs. Taiwan and Italy vs. Germany?

                        I enjoy the dialogue here, but people have gone nuts over this whole WBC qualifier idea.

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                        • There's little point discussing an August qualifier with MLB participation. It won't happen--and I have a hard time seeing even the WBC becoming so important any time soon that MLB would shut down during the season for it.
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                          • then when would they possibly hold a qualifier for the tournment, i suppose you could hold all four groups in panama but i doubt wbc committe would allow that let alone MLB

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                            • Originally posted by Agente Libre View Post
                              And, likewise, I don't want to offend you, but you have no idea how silly this is (especially the part in bold).

                              Regarding the 2003 Olympic qualifier in Panama, I'm well aware that it was an IBAF-level event,* but it was a feeder for the Olympics, which are a higher-level event than the IBAF-level Baseball World Cup. If Panama was considered an acceptable stop en route to the Olympics, it should be more than acceptable for an IBAF-level event with much lower stakes.

                              (* Strictly speaking, I believe COPABE was responsible for organizing the 2003 Americas Qualifier, but I might be wrong about that.)
                              I can´t understand what should be silly about listening to other peoples idea who are more into international Baseball outside the own little BB world and what should be silly about to admit a dissenting opinion....maybe everybody else is wrong and only one is right....

                              World Cup for sure is/was a lower ranked event then the Olympic Games but both of them are/have been IBAF ruled tournaments. Even 2003 Americas Qualifier hosted by COPABE was a IBAF ruled tournament as well as the CEB hosted 2007 European Championship (Olympic Qualifier) and others.

                              I also do believe Olympic Qualifier host would be adequate host a World Cup but you expressed it for me other way that there is Olympic Qualifier and IBAF level tournaments. But this is wrong both are IBAF ruled tournaments! COPABE is just a member of IBAF nothing more nothing less.

                              Maybe you get a little bit more open minded and accept other opinions then your own...

                              Let´s get back to discussion about the topic thread
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                              • Originally posted by Agente Libre View Post
                                ... (I remember when the D.R. built the huge Centro Olimpico for the 2003 Pan Am Games. A year later, it was overrun with weeds and vandalized.)
                                I suppose their growing season is longer than their baseball season. It's the opposite here.

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