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  • #76
    I not against Czechia and so on.
    I think, that 8 additional places should BE EARNED, to not receive automatically
    I think, that it is necessary to play qualifying tournaments, in which these countries should in struggle receive these places in tournament.
    I have specified as it I see here:
    http: // www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=88632
    I think, that is necessary to play 1 round - 4 groups with in each 6 teams( total 60 games), it's better than 6 groups with 4 teams in each group (36 games).
    More games - the better tournament. In baseball it is possible to play EACH day (as against soccers)
    Ukrainian Baseball: www.baseball.in.ua

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    • #77
      Originally posted by spark240 View Post
      The arguments against this which occur to me are,

      1. There is still a statistical formula which announcers and writers will have to repeatedly explain to viewers and readers. In short, this annoys people and drives away casual fans. The double-elimination bracket diagram may have looked a little complicated to some, but at least it could be drawn. You can't draw the round-robin plus RA/9 ranking and tiebreaker.

      2. Why is it RA/9? Why is allowing fewer runs more important than scoring more runs, or any other measure?
      Forgive me for overlooking the sensibilities of the casual fan. I used the RA/9, because it was the primary tie breaker in 2006. However a simpler tie breaking criteria can be used, perhaps Run differential. Goal differential is used for tie breakers in soccer, so it may be straight forward enough for the casual baseball fan.
      I didn't mind the double elimination system to much, I just prefer pool play. As you mentioned in your "WBC Tournament Structure" thread, some intriguing match-ups didn't materialize. Also, it would be nice to see every team get in a at least three games on the WBC stage.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
        However a simpler tie breaking criteria can be used, perhaps Run differential. Goal differential is used for tie breakers in soccer, so it may be straight forward enough for the casual baseball fan.
        Yes !!!
        Baseball bosses must take better from soccer

        Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
        I didn't mind the double elimination system to much, I just prefer pool play.
        Yes !
        It's foolish system.
        Teams must play "each-to-each" (like in WBC'06)
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Alexx1971 View Post
          I not against Czechia and so on.
          I think, that 8 additional places should BE EARNED, to not receive automatically
          I think, that it is necessary to play qualifying tournaments, in which these countries should in struggle receive these places in tournament.
          I agree 100%

          I have specified as it I see here:
          http: // www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=88632
          I think, that is necessary to play 1 round - 4 groups with in each 6 teams( total 60 games), it's better than 6 groups with 4 teams in each group (36 games).
          More games - the better tournament. In baseball it is possible to play EACH day (as against soccers)
          I like that format, but I'm not sure the WBC Committee will agree with the semi-final & final portion it. Many MLB clubs are not too happy about letting their stars play in a maximum of 10 WBC games; they're going to be less enthused about letting them play in a max of about 15 games. I wouldn't mind the final be a best of three series.

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          • #80
            maybe set up the second round as single elimination bracket style format. This is only if you had another 8 teams. this makes the WBC shorter and more exciting, yes there will be more upsets and pitching staff might be more important and crucial in games but it might be the best way. Of course teams would have to play every other day, very difficult to do.

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            • #81
              Baseball will grow

              I have research the beginning of the world cup of soccer. And I could not help to notice the similarities between the world cup and the world baseball classic. One the world baseball classic began around the time were IOC wanted to remove baseball from the olympics. 1932 olympic did not have soccer in the list of games and was dropped to the fact that IOC didnt want professional players to go, also in 1932 soccer was removed from the games, yet it was brought back in 1936 i believe. Similar to baseball being removed and maybe coming back in 2016. Two soccer crazed nations like italy and england did not want to go because they thought it was to long a journey, expensive and meaningless. Similar to what some people believe about the world baseball classic. Also there was a lot of dropping out of players and even teams. 1934 world cup Uruguay didnt even go the defending champions.

              I do not think baseball can ever top soccer in popularity, because all soccer needs is ball to play. Also some people believe that baseball is just a american game, i never hear soccer refer as just a english game even though the origins are english. Soccer became a world wide phenom, baseball I hope can become one day a world wide sport.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
                Forgive me for overlooking the sensibilities of the casual fan.
                Hey, I wish we could.

                Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
                I didn't mind the double elimination system to much, I just prefer pool play. As you mentioned in your "WBC Tournament Structure" thread, some intriguing match-ups didn't materialize. Also, it would be nice to see every team get in a at least three games on the WBC stage.
                Definitely agree with the last bit.

                I haven't bothered to plot it out on paper and present it here, but I have a vague idea about a combination system which begins with geographic pool play (including some new countries) and then moves into a bracketed tournament, with the first seeding being based on pool standings. Teams which had advanced to a certain level in the previous tournament could skip the pool play round (thus allowing a better showcase for the weaker teams there) and receive automatic bracket positions.

                I'm no casual, but I still like the clarity of elimination only being possible "on the field." I think any format which relies on a statistical formula at any point still allows for the possibility of weird conditions like the one I believe Mexico faced in 2006, in which scoring some runs, and winning the game quickly, at a certain point, would eliminate themselves (this is what happened), but playing into extra innings and then winning, would advance them.

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                • #83
                  2013? - I thought that it was being held every three years, so that 2012 would be next.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by quinnystar27 View Post
                    Of course teams would have to play every other day, very difficult to do.
                    Why? Baseball - it's not a soccer.
                    Any soccer team play in championship 30-35 game
                    Baseball play at 3-4 time more:
                    USA - 162 games
                    Japan -144 games
                    Korea - 120 games
                    Taiwan - 100 games
                    Cuba - 90 games

                    What's problem play the game every day ?
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by quinnystar27 View Post
                      Two soccer crazed nations like italy and england
                      England NEVER be soccer crazed
                      All my life until 1996 I like soccer and I know what I say.
                      Three guys from Ukraine was best European soccers man (Blokhin in 1975, Belanov in 1986, Shevchenko in 200?)
                      Biggest crazy soccers country - it's Brazil. Then Italy.
                      England not more crazy than Germany.
                      England not qualified on Euro2008 (Croatia win their in qualifying)
                      Originally posted by quinnystar27 View Post
                      I do not think baseball can ever top soccer in popularity, because all soccer needs is ball to play.
                      I believe when India will play in WBC (in 10-12 years), baseball will more popular than soccer in the world because in 10-12 years China will win over Canada, Mexico, Taiwan WITHOUT problem !!!
                      In 1990 nobody think what China win Olympic games. But results Olympic'2008 we know
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Alexx1971 View Post
                        England NEVER be soccer crazed
                        All my life until 1996 I like soccer and I know what I say.
                        Three guys from Ukraine was best European soccers man (Blokhin in 1975, Belanov in 1986, Shevchenko in 200?)
                        Biggest crazy soccers country - it's Brazil. Then Italy.
                        England not more crazy than Germany.
                        England not qualified on Euro2008 (Croatia win their in qualifying)
                        How is England not soccer crazed? Is that serious? And, the fact that they didn't qualify for Euro 2008's doesn't mean squat; they still love their soccer. That'd be like saying becuase Cuba didn't get into the semi finals of the WBC they're not baseball crazed

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                        • #87
                          i have to agree england is soccer crazed have you ever been to england to watch a game. Even B teams have crazy fan support. Manchester was over run by people that they stopped the trains, trams and buses during the uefa cup final when the rangers played it was just insane.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by quinnystar27 View Post
                            i have to agree england is soccer crazed have you ever been to england to watch a game. Even B teams have crazy fan support. Manchester was over run by people that they stopped the trains, trams and buses during the uefa cup final when the rangers played it was just insane.
                            Yep, exactly. Teams in the Coca Cola Leagues also get pretty big crowds. Part of it is their system (if you are a solid B team, you always have the chance at a promotion, whihc I LOVE and wished baseball in the U.S. adopted, but it would never happen)

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                            • #89
                              Guys, don't be emotionally.
                              Please, let's think
                              Look at this
                              http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/a...r=2008&cc=3888
                              http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/a...r=2008&cc=3888
                              Germany average attendance: 41,746
                              England average attendance: 35,325
                              But nobody in Europe say that German - it's a crazy
                              Attendance and Crazy - it's a DIFFERENT THINGS
                              Italy:
                              http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/a...r=2008&cc=3888
                              Italy average attendance: 24,889
                              But Italy soccer fan, - tiffozi - a CRAZY!!!!!!
                              Good attendance - it's a good management

                              In Ukraine boxing guys have best results, than Mexico and Cuba (yesterday Klitshchko win Gomez by knockout).
                              http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?se...on=Heavyweight
                              We have 5 guys in TOP20, USA have 6 guys (only thanks to US promouters, because boxing - it's a dirty business).
                              But Mexico and Cuba - it's a boxing MUCH MORE crazy people.
                              CRAZY, ATTENDANCE, RESULTS - it's a three different things.
                              In Icehockey in 1980-1990 best team in the world it's USSR team.
                              But games in championship was with empty stadiums (not always, but often)
                              ATTENDANCE........
                              And our people not crazy. But soccer #1 (in Ukraine and Russian attendance about 9000)
                              Bad attendance - it's a bad management, but not bad sportsmen
                              Are you understand?
                              Last edited by Alexx1971; 03-22-2009, 01:11 AM.
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                              • #90
                                Let's keep it to baseball, folks. This is Baseball Fever, after all. If you want to discuss soccer, there are other places for that.
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                                Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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