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  • I hate to call out MLB for nefarious purposes, but they must surely know the potential makeup of each team, and know how 40 man roster players would be affected, along with even NPB talent. I believe they designed the Israel pool to get Israel advancing. Part of me would have thought getting Brazil into the WBC regularly mattered more than Israel, but this scheduling says otherwise.
    Last edited by cutchemist42; 09-17-2015, 12:10 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Rally Monkey View Post
      Is that right? Isn't it possible that teams will be encouraged to release players to play in one or more of the games? I mean, MLB has as much--or more--interest in showcasing Brazilian MLB players than in promoting baseball in Israel. Right?
      You would hope. I mean, taking this year as an example, would the Indians have let Gomes go this month 4.0 games back of a wildcard? I would not think so. Does Paulo Orland get released for a few days though with KC comfortably in a playoff spot? What about Luiz Gohara?

      Then you consider if NPB releases the talent in that league that could play for Brazil?

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      • Originally posted by cutchemist42 View Post
        http://baseballeurope.com/post/dates...r_2016_wbc_qua

        Its official, and Pakistan made it in!! They actually really mixed up the groups!!


        I go to Mexicali all the time. Looks like I'll be seeing a qualifier there. And maybe Brooklyn

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        • Originally posted by cutchemist42 View Post
          I hate to call out MLB for nefarious purposes, but they must surely know the potential makeup of each team, and know how 40 man roster players would be affected, along with even NPB talent. I believe they designed the Israel pool to get Israel advancing. Part of me would have thought getting Brazil into the WBC regularly mattered more than Israel, but this scheduling says otherwise.
          What possible purpose could MLB have to prefer Israel over Brazil?

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          • Originally posted by NewEnglandAmazins View Post
            • I am really surprised that the groups were mixed up, perhaps it's a product of MLB International's new leadership.

            • They have clearly paved the way for team Israel to qualify, Brazil will be rendered toothless without its 40-man roster players, Great Britain & Pakistan do not pose a real threat to Israel.

            • Panama has drawn the "group of death" again with Colombia & Spain; the French are in for a rough tournament.

            • Australia should should qualify with relative ease, the competition between the rest of that group will be very interesting

            • Mexico's only threat should be Nicaragua. Germany and the Czech Republic will place 3rd & 4th respectively.
            I agree with you 100%

            It is exactly what I expected to make sure Israel goes through after they tried hard last time and failed.

            Not sure if Nicargua will be force No2 but odds will be in their favor. A few interesting sidenotes about Germany as I see them be 3rd/4th finisher. After splitting with all of the employees within the last 1.5 years they finally announced in July to Part ways with Headcoach Frady. Until now no new Headcoach had been named and the team did only have one game since September 2014 at EC. The qualifier will be in 6 month from now and I wonder how they will prepare and field a team.
            The march date will not help getting much support by the German Talents on the rise. Lutz (Reds) comming from Tommy John looking for a new contract, Kepler (Twins) on his way on maybe making 25man roster, Altherr maybe getting a shot also with the Phils.
            Last edited by Paula59; 09-17-2015, 02:51 PM.
            The only thing you know is you never know and that you know for sure!

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            • Originally posted by Paula59 View Post
              I agree with you 100%

              It is exactly what I expected to make sure Israel goes through after they tried hard last time and failed.

              Not sure if Nicargua will be force No2 but odds will be in their favor. A few interesting sidenotes about Germany as I see them be 3rd/4th finisher. After splitting with all of the employees within the last 1.5 years they finally announced in July to Part ways with Headcoach Frady. Until now no new Headcoach had been named and the team did only have one game since September 2014 at EC. The qualifier will be in 6 month from now and I wonder how they will prepare and field a team.
              The march date will not help getting much support by the German Talents on the rise. Lutz (Reds) comming from Tommy John looking for a new contract, Kepler (Twins) on his way on maybe making 25man roster, Altherr maybe getting a shot also with the Phils.
              Yeah good points about the German players. Hopefully with it being just 2-3 games, and on the same continent/timezones, that something could be worked out. Dont know where every team's ST city is, but Mexicali is pretty close to Arizona right in terms of flights?

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              • Originally posted by cutchemist42 View Post
                Yeah good points about the German players. Hopefully with it being just 2-3 games, and on the same continent/timezones, that something could be worked out. Dont know where every team's ST city is, but Mexicali is pretty close to Arizona right in terms of flights?
                You are rigth Mexicali - Arizona ST is reasonable flight distance. I though more about what is more in interest of the players. Figthing for a new contract or roster spot or playing a 3 - 5 day Qualifier with odds against your team anyway.
                Don't get me wrong surely it is an honor to wear your colours and I am pretty sure everybody wants to represent his Country. But sometimes you have to make a decission about what will help to make a step in your carreer.

                At WBCQ 12 Germany improved the squad with players under the elegibility rules. Not sure if it is more easier to get those players (like Altherr) on the March Date.
                Last edited by Paula59; 09-17-2015, 03:18 PM.
                The only thing you know is you never know and that you know for sure!

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                • So their organizations can watch them in the quali games. I don't see that it should hurt their roster and contract cases.

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                  • How close did the Steering Committee get to the template?

                    Qualifier 1 Qualifier 2 Qualifier 3 Qualifier 4
                    2013 Relegated Teams Australia Mexico Spain Brazil
                    2012 WBCQ 2nd Place New Zealand Germany Panama Israel
                    2012 WBCQ 3rd Place Philippines Nicaragua Colombia Great Britain
                    2012 WBCQ 4th Place South Africa Czech Republic France Pakistan

                    86.67% of the returning teams [15] were placed in their anticipated slot on the template; teams in red are the exception. Nicaragua is strong enough to be slotted as a third place team as well as being ranked higher than the Czech Republic, South Africa is ranked lower than the Philippines and therefore gets the fourth place slot, and Pakistan replaces Thailand as the last fourth place slot.
                    Last edited by SouthwestAmAZins; 09-17-2015, 04:30 PM.

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                    • The rates of change between WBC Groups:

                      2006-2009
                      2006 Group A
                      100% intact in 2009 Group A
                      2006 Group B
                      50% intact in 2009 Group B
                      50% intact in 2009 Group C
                      2006 Group C
                      75% intact in 2009 Group D
                      2006 Group D
                      50% intact in 2009 Group C

                      2009-2013
                      2009 Group A
                      50% intact in 2013 Group A
                      50% intact in 2013 Group B
                      2009 Group B
                      0% intact in 2013
                      2009 Group C
                      75% intact in 2013 Group D
                      2009 Group D
                      50% intact in 2013 Group C

                      2013-2016
                      2013 Group 1 - Jupiter
                      50% intact in 2016 Qualifier 3
                      2013 Group 2 - Regensburg
                      50% intact in 2016 Qualifier 2
                      2013 Group 3 - Panama
                      50% intact in 2016 Qualifier 3
                      2013 Group 4 - New Taipei City
                      50% intact in 2016 Qualifier 1

                      Qualifier 4 is the only totally new group with respect to the 2013 WBC Qualifiers

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                      • Originally posted by Paula59 View Post
                        You are rigth Mexicali - Arizona ST is reasonable flight distance. I though more about what is more in interest of the players. Figthing for a new contract or roster spot or playing a 3 - 5 day Qualifier with odds against your team anyway.
                        I love Kepler. But he won't be competing for a 25-man roster spot next sping. He will no doubt be in major league camp--which will be a challenge, because the Twins train in Florida, not Arizona.

                        It's too bad Team Germany doesn't have its act together. Hopefully they work hard to convince Kepler to play.

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                        • I am a little surprised that Germany was not chosen to host again. MLB supposedly wants to grow the sport in Europe and they choose Brooklyn over Regensburg to host a round of the WBCQs? New York City does have more Jewish people, as well as Brazilians and baseball fans of nearly every nationality than Jupiter or Regensburg. September does not favor Brazil, because its best players are not likely to be released to play in the WBCQs. Israel has far more depth in MiLB than Brazil or Great Britain. Of this group, only Pakistan is likely to send its best possible team. Preliminary prediction: Israel, Brazil, Great Britain & Pakistan in that order.

                          P.S. Germany should try to get Ron Gardenhire to manage their team

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                          • Yes maybe it is a chance the organizations want to take and give some players high Level playing time
                            ST Florida does Not make it easier but you never Know.
                            Toby Gardenhire played for Team Germany in WBCQ 12 - maybe there is a chance his father will coach this time during this tournament. But besides this the team is currently without a skipper.

                            Not sure if Germany/Regensburg was asked to host again. Did Not hear a single word about it but I can imagine it has a lot to do with the date/weather combo.
                            The only thing you know is you never know and that you know for sure!

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                            • Well when it comes to Regensburg, aren't WBC sites bid for? Cities/groups put in bids which MLB reviews? Im sure MLB might approach sites to suggest bidding, but yeah, I always assumed they were bid for.
                              Last edited by cutchemist42; 09-18-2015, 07:49 AM.

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                              • For political reasons interesting to see Israel and Pakistan in the same pool. Positive for me is the inclusion of Pakistan in the tournament and should be interesting to see how they do. Finally, I think MLB should concentrate promoting the game in key parts of the world. My thoughts are Europe, Brazil and China. I think they should have had a European location probably Germany again. It would have been nice to see all the European rivalries playing in the same pool. Germany, Spain, France and Czech Republic. Overall not too pleased with the groups and the emphasis on having Israel qualify, hopefully they at least double the number of true national players on their roster. However, it is the WBC and I'm just glad they have finally announced something. Also, glad they rewarded and Northwest Mexican city!

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