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  • #16
    Wow, this information really has not been publicised. First we're seeing it. Great job, chennd and SW!

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    • #17
      The new WBSC world baseball rankings have been published and, although there was plenty of movement in the Top 12, we now have a fairly good idea who will contest next year's #Premier12. Elsewhere, Chile, Ireland, Sri Lanka, and Ukraine, among others, had big gains: bit.ly/WBSCRankings0918. What do we think of the top 12, now that it is fairly set? And who are your prediction for biggest movers in 2019?

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      • #18
        Argentina in the Pan-Am Games, is poised to earn more participation points than ever. However, I am hoping that Africa finally gets its own International event together and earns some points for teams outside of South Africa.

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        • #19
          Argentina is a prime candidate to keep moving up the rankings. They really need to take on teams with professionals, though, to gauge their progress.
          Unfortunately, this year's East Africa Baseball Championship is for the youth teams of Uganda and Kenya only. Would be great if the slight movement in east and west Africa turned into real progress.

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          • #20
            The WBSC rankings aren't very consistent, for some reason they omit some teams from their calculations. Laos participated in the latest Asia Games, which based on the WBSC's ranking methodology should have netted Laos 30 points for their last place finish; they would be tied with Bolivia for 60th.

            Source: http://www.wbsc.org/wp-content/uploa...ology-ENG1.pdf

            Back in 2015, South Africa, Uganda, Kenya & Tanzania had a U18 African Qualifier. Unfortunately, back then the WBSC rankings did not count non senior level qualifiers as eligible events. I believe that was the first international baseball event on the continent since the 2007 African Olympic Qualifier and no team outside of South Africa has earned any points since then.

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            • #21
              It is strange that the WBSC left out quite a few nations in the last two years, especially since the WBSC went out of its way to say the tournaments were official. Would love to see the rankings break down where all the points come from. It would be a bit of effort to set up, but not much to update since the points are for four years.

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              • #22
                Oh, and for what it's worth, here is an update on how the U23s ought to affect the WBSC rankings. Spoilers: New No. 1 and a new team in the Top 25, among other changes. The France - South Africa series will also affect the rankings and, since it appears the WBSC is waiting to update rankings until afterward, this will be a big help for South Africa should it win at least two of the remaining five games (having won the first two). http://bit.ly/18U23Rankings

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                • #23
                  The field and format are all set for November 2-17, 2019

                  Source: http://www.wbsc.org/worlds-top-12-na...aseball-event/

                  Here is what is might look like:
                  A B C
                  1- Japan 2- United States 3-South Korea
                  4- Taiwan 6- Mexico 5- Cuba
                  7- Australia 10- Canada 8- Netherlands
                  12- Dominican Republic 9- Venezuela 11- Puerto Rico
                  Hosts are highlighted in red
                  Super Round
                  Japan
                  A2
                  B1
                  B2
                  C1
                  C2
                  In the unlikely situation that Japan gets eliminated in the first round, it will be an awkward Super Round held in Tokyo.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SouthwestAmAZins View Post
                    The field and format are all set for November 2-17, 2019

                    Source: http://www.wbsc.org/worlds-top-12-na...aseball-event/

                    Here is what is might look like:
                    A B C
                    1- Japan 2- United States 3-South Korea
                    4- Taiwan 6- Mexico 5- Cuba
                    7- Australia 10- Canada 8- Netherlands
                    12- Dominican Republic 9- Venezuela 11- Puerto Rico
                    Hosts are highlighted in red
                    Super Round
                    Japan
                    A2
                    B1
                    B2
                    C1
                    C2
                    In the unlikely situation that Japan gets eliminated in the first round, it will be an awkward Super Round held in Tokyo.
                    IDK I think Japan is going to be grouped with South Korea because of the rivalry but that's just me. Group B is to me the most likely to happen. SK and Taiwan grouping are interchangeable.
                    Taiwan were quarter round host in the 2015 Premier 12 and were eliminated in the first round so it's not like it hasn't happen before.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jak View Post

                      IDK I think Japan is going to be grouped with South Korea because of the rivalry but that's just me. Group B is to me the most likely to happen. SK and Taiwan grouping are interchangeable.
                      Taiwan were quarter round host in the 2015 Premier 12 and were eliminated in the first round so it's not like it hasn't happen before.
                      Perhaps, but will the WBSC place two top 3 teams in the same group? Japan is usually excellent, but the WBSC may want to pave the way a little for their Super Round host. A Super Round without the host could be disastrous to the event. I remember reading that the 2015 P12 Final wasn't even televised in Japan, because it did not involve Samurai Japan.

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                      • #26
                        Some really good thoughts on the groups here. WBSC does seem to love putting Japan and South Korea in the same group, but have to agree with Southwest that the top three teams would be in different pools. This may be slightly more likely in this edition because it is already in East Asia, so saving the rivalry may help ratings earlier.

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                        • #27
                          Wednesday February 13th the Premier12 Opening Round locations, groups to be revealed at press conference in Mexico City

                          Source: http://www.wbsc.org/media-advisory-w...n-mexico-city/

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                          • #28
                            Groups, locations revealed for WBSC Premier12 2019 major international baseball event

                            A B C
                            Mexico Taiwan South Korea
                            United States Japan Cuba
                            Netherlands Venezuela Australia
                            Dominican Republic Puerto Rico Canada








                            Source: http://www.wbsc.org/press-release-gr...2019-major-int
                            ernational-baseball-event/

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