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  • Ted Williams 1960 Game log,
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    TmG	Date	Opp	res	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RB	BB	IW	SO	HB	SH	SF	RE	DP	BOr	Positions	Yr#	Date	Opp	Pitcher	result	Desc
    1	18-Apr	@WSH	L  1-10	3	2	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5th	LF	1	4/22/1960	@WSH	Jim Kaat	Out	Flyball: LF
    2	19-Apr	NYY	L  4-8	4	4	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	5th	LF	2	5/20/1960	@CLE	Dick Stigman	SO	Strikeout
    5	22-Apr	@WSH	W  5-4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	3	1960-05-22(2)	@DET	Pete Burnside	1B	Single to RF; Clinton to 3B; Green to 2B
    7	24-Apr	@WSH	L 10-11	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	4	6/3/1960	@NYY	Bobby Shantz	Out	Flyball: RF
    9	27-Apr	@BAL	L  3-8	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	5	1960-06-05(1)	@NYY	Bobby Shantz	IBB	Intentional Walk
    11	30-Apr	WSH	W  2-1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	6	6/14/1960	@DET	Pete Burnside	SO	Strikeout
    13	4-May	KCA	L  3-5	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7th	PH	7	6/15/1960	@DET	Don Mossi	Out	Groundout: 1B-P
    14	6-May	DET	W  3-2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	8		@DET	Don Mossi	Out	Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B
    16	10-May	CHW	W  9-7	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	9		@DET	Don Mossi	Out	Popfly: 3B
    17	12-May	CHW	W  1-0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1st	PH	10	6/16/1960	@DET	Hank Aguirre	Out	Lineout: CF
    20	May 15(2)	BAL	L  4-7	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	11		@DET	Hank Aguirre	BB	Walk
    22	18-May	@CHW	L  5-6	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	6th	PH	12		@DET	Hank Aguirre	HR	Home Run (Deep RF)
    23	20-May	@CLE	L  0-2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	6th	PH	13	6/18/1960	@CLE	Ted Bowsfield	SO	Strikeout Looking
    24	21-May	@CLE	L  1-6	4	3	0	2	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	14	6/20/1960	@KCA	Leo Kiely	SO	Strikeout
    25	May 22(1)	@DET	L  2-6	4	3	0	1	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	15	6/21/1960	@KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Groundout: 2B-1B
    26	May 22(2)	@DET	L  2-5	1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	16		@KCA	Bud Daley	HR	Home Run (Deep RF)
    36	Jun  2(1)	WSH	L  3-8	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	17		@KCA	Bud Daley	HR	Home Run (Deep RF); Tasby Scores
    37	Jun  2(2)	WSH	L  7-8	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	18		@KCA	Bud Daley	1B	Single; Tasby Scores
    38	3-Jun	@NYY	L  3-4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7th	PH	19	1960-06-26(1)	@CHW	Billy Pierce	SO	Strikeout
    40	Jun  5(1)	@NYY	L  4-5	5	4	1	2	0	0	1	2	1	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	20		@CHW	Billy Pierce	BB	Walk
    42	7-Jun	CLE	L  3-12	3	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	21		@CHW	Billy Pierce	BB	Walk; Green to 2B
    43	Jun  8(1)	CLE	L  7-8	5	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	22		@CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Flyball: CF
    44	Jun  8(2)	CLE	L  2-5	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	23	6/28/1960	DET	Don Mossi	Out	Groundout: 1B-P; Buddin to 3B
    45	9-Jun	CLE	L  2-3	5	3	0	1	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	3rd	LF	24		DET	Don Mossi	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted
    46	10-Jun	CHW	L  3-13	4	3	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	25		DET	Don Mossi	2B	Double to CF
    47	Jun 11(1)	CHW	W  5-4	4	3	1	1	0	0	1	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	26		DET	Don Mossi	1B	Single to CF; Hardy Scores; Runnels to 2B
    49	12-Jun	CHW	W  4-1	4	3	1	2	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	27	7/2/1960	KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Foul Flyball: 3B
    50	14-Jun	@DET	L  1-2	4	3	1	2	0	0	1	1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	28		KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Foul Flyball: 3B
    51	15-Jun	@DET	W  4-3	5	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	29		KCA	Bud Daley	BB	Walk
    52	16-Jun	@DET	L  5-6	5	3	1	2	0	0	1	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	30		KCA	Bud Daley	BB	Walk
    53	17-Jun	@CLE	W  3-1	4	3	1	1	0	0	1	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	31		KCA	Bud Daley	2B	Double to CF (Deep LF-CF); Buddin Scores; Runnels Scores
    54	18-Jun	@CLE	L  1-2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	32	1960-07-04(1)	BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Flyball: CF
    55	Jun 19(1)	@CLE	W  7-1	4	3	1	1	0	0	1	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	33		BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Foul Flyball: 3B
    57	20-Jun	@KCA	L  6-9	5	5	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	34	1960-07-04(2)	BAL	Billy Hoeft	SO	Strikeout Looking
    58	21-Jun	@KCA	L  7-11	4	4	2	3	0	0	2	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	35		BAL	Billy Hoeft	SO	Strikeout
    59	22-Jun	@KCA	L  1-2	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	36	7/6/1960	WSH	Jack Kralick	Out	Groundout: 1B-P
    61	24-Jun	@CHW	L  1-2	4	3	0	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	37	1960-07-07(1)	WSH	Chuck Stobbs	1B	Single to 2B (Ground Ball)
    62	25-Jun	@CHW	L  6-7	5	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	38	7/10/1960	NYY	Whitey Ford	BB	Walk; Tasby to 2B
    63	Jun 26(1)	@CHW	L  3-4	4	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	39		NYY	Whitey Ford	Out	Groundout: 2B-1B; Tasby Scores
    65	28-Jun	DET	L  1-10	4	4	0	2	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	40	7/15/1960	@KCA	Bud Daley	HBP	Hit By Pitch
    66	29-Jun	DET	W  4-2	4	3	2	2	0	0	1	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	41		@KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Groundout: 1B-P
    67	30-Jun	DET	W 11-7	5	4	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	42		@KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted; Runnels to 2B
    68	2-Jul	KCA	L  6-10	5	3	1	1	1	0	0	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	43		@KCA	Bud Daley	1B	Single
    69	3-Jul	KCA	W 13-2	4	3	2	2	0	0	1	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	44		@KCA	Bud Daley	SO	Strikeout
    70	Jul  4(1)	BAL	W 10-7	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	45	7/18/1960	@CHW	Herb Score	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted; Runnels to 2B
    71	Jul  4(2)	BAL	L  6-8	5	5	1	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	46		@CHW	Herb Score	Out	Flyball: LF
    72	5-Jul	BAL	L  4-9	3	2	0	1	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	47		@CHW	Herb Score	Out	Flyball: CF (Deep CF)
    73	6-Jul	WSH	L  0-4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	48		@CHW	Herb Score	Out	Groundout: 1B-P
    74	Jul  7(1)	WSH	L  5-6	4	4	0	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	49	7/19/1960	@CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Groundout: 2B-1B
    76	8-Jul	NYY	W  8-0	4	3	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	50		@CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Groundout: 2B-1B
    77	9-Jul	NYY	W  6-5	4	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	51		@CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Groundout: 1B-P
    78	10-Jul	NYY	W  9-5	5	2	1	0	0	0	0	1	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	52		@CHW	Billy Pierce	1B	Single to CF
    79	15-Jul	@KCA	W  2-1	5	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	53	7/20/1960	@CHW	Frank Baumann	1B	Single to 2B
    80	16-Jul	@KCA	W  1-0	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	54		@CHW	Frank Baumann	Out	Flyball: LF
    82	18-Jul	@CHW	L  1-9	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	55	7/22/1960	CLE	Dick Stigman	Out	Groundout: 2B-SS/Forceout at 2B; Tasby to 3B
    83	19-Jul	@CHW	L  0-6	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	56	1960-07-24(1)	CLE	Ted Bowsfield	Out	Flyball: RF
    84	20-Jul	@CHW	L  1-7	4	3	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	57	7/28/1960	CHW	Billy Pierce	1B	Single to CF
    85	22-Jul	CLE	W  6-4	4	2	2	1	0	0	1	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	58		CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Flyball: CF
    86	23-Jul	CLE	L  2-4	4	3	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	59	7/29/1960	DET	Pete Burnside	Out	Groundout: SS-1B
    87	Jul 24(1)	CLE	W 10-6	4	3	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	60	8/6/1960	@DET	Pete Burnside	Out	Flyball: CF
    89	26-Jul	CHW	L  3-16	4	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	61		@DET	Pete Burnside	HBP	Hit By Pitch
    90	27-Jul	CHW	L  4-10	5	4	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	62		@DET	Pete Burnside	Out	Flyball: RF
    91	28-Jul	CHW	W  4-2	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	63	8/14/1960	@BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Lineout: RF
    92	29-Jul	DET	W  1-0	4	3	0	2	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	64		@BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Ground Ball Double Play: 1B-SS-1B; Green Scores/No RBI
    93	Jul 31(1)	DET	L  6-9	5	5	1	2	0	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	65	8/15/1960	@WSH	Chuck Stobbs	1B	Single to RF
    95	1-Aug	KCA	L  8-10	6	3	1	1	1	0	0	2	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	66	8/16/1960	@WSH	Hal Woodeshick	Out	Groundout: C-1B; Runnels to 3B; Tasby to 2B
    96	2-Aug	KCA	L  4-10	4	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	67	8/17/1960	NYY	Luis Arroyo	BB	Walk; Muffett Scores; Runnels to 3B; Tasby to 2B
    97	Aug  4(1)	KCA	W  5-3	4	2	1	1	0	0	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	68	8/18/1960	NYY	Luis Arroyo	1B	Single to CF (Ground Ball); Green Scores/unER; Tasby to 2B
    99	5-Aug	@DET	W  4-2	4	3	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	69	8/21/1960	BAL	Steve Barber	1B	Single to 2B (Ground Ball)
    100	6-Aug	@DET	W 11-9	5	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	70		BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Groundout: 2B-SS/Forceout at 2B
    101	Aug  7(1)	@DET	L  2-7	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	71		BAL	Steve Barber	Out	Groundout: SS-1B
    103	9-Aug	@CLE	L  3-6	5	4	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	72		BAL	Steve Barber	BB	Walk; Tasby to 2B
    104	10-Aug	@CLE	W  6-1	5	5	3	3	1	0	2	3	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	73	8/26/1960	CHW	Frank Baumann	Out	Flyball: LF
    106	12-Aug	@BAL	L  3-4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1st	PH	74		CHW	Frank Baumann	SO	Strikeout
    107	13-Aug	@BAL	L  7-8	4	4	2	2	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	75	8/31/1960	DET	Hank Aguirre	SO	Strikeout
    108	14-Aug	@BAL	W  3-2	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	76	9/3/1960	WSH	Hal Woodeshick	SO	Strikeout
    109	15-Aug	@WSH	W 11-3	5	5	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF	77	1960-09-05(2)	@NYY	Bobby Shantz	IBB	Intentional Walk
    110	16-Aug	@WSH	L  5-8	5	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	78	9/9/1960	@KCA	Bud Daley	Out	Groundout: SS-1B
    111	17-Aug	NYY	L  2-3	5	3	0	1	0	0	0	1	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	79	1960-09-11(1)	@CHW	Billy Pierce	SO	Strikeout
    112	18-Aug	NYY	L  7-11	5	5	0	2	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	80		@CHW	Billy Pierce	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted
    113	Aug 20(1)	BAL	W  8-6	5	4	3	3	0	0	2	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	81		@CHW	Billy Pierce	BB	Walk; Tasby Scores; Green to 3B; Hardy to 2B
    114	Aug 20(2)	BAL	L  0-6	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH	82		@CHW	Frank Baumann	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted
    115	21-Aug	BAL	L  4-10	5	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	83	9/13/1960	@CLE	Dick Stigman	BB	Walk; Clinton Scores; Runnels to 3B; Sullivan to 2B
    116	23-Aug	CLE	L  2-3	5	5	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	84	9/16/1960	@WSH	Chuck Stobbs	Out	Groundout: 1B unassisted
    117	24-Aug	CLE	L  1-3	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	85		@WSH	Chuck Stobbs	SO	Strikeout
    118	25-Aug	CLE	W 10-7	5	4	1	3	0	0	1	3	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	86		@WSH	Chuck Stobbs	Out	Groundout: 2B-1B
    119	26-Aug	CHW	L  2-9	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	87		@WSH	Chuck Stobbs	SO	Strikeout
    124	Aug 30(1)	DET	W  5-4	4	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	88	9/17/1960	@WSH	Hal Woodeshick	Out	Flyball: LF
    125	Aug 30(2)	DET	W  3-2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH	89	9/23/1960	NYY	Bobby Shantz	SO	Strikeout
    126	31-Aug	DET	L  2-4	5	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	90	9/24/1960	NYY	Luis Arroyo	1B	Single to LF (Line Drive); Green to 2B
    127	Sep  2(1)	WSH	L  1-5	4	4	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF	91	9/28/1960	BAL	Steve Barber	BB	Walk; Tasby to 2B
    128	Sep  2(2)	WSH	L  2-3	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	7th	PH						
    129	3-Sep	WSH	W  5-4	4	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    131	Sep  5(1)	@NYY	L  2-3	5	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    132	Sep  5(2)	@NYY	L  2-3	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH						
    133	6-Sep	@NYY	W  7-1	4	2	1	1	0	0	1	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    134	7-Sep	@DET	W  5-4	4	4	1	2	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    135	8-Sep	@DET	W  6-1	4	3	1	3	1	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    136	9-Sep	@KCA	L  2-3	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7th	PH						
    137	10-Sep	@KCA	W  7-4	4	4	0	2	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    138	Sep 11(1)	@CHW	L  3-5	4	3	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    139	Sep 11(2)	@CHW	L  0-1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	8th	PH						
    140	13-Sep	@CLE	L  3-5	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	9th	PH						
    141	14-Sep	@CLE	L  7-11	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    142	16-Sep	@WSH	L  0-3	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    143	17-Sep	@WSH	W  2-1	4	4	1	2	0	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    144	18-Sep	@WSH	W  3-1	4	3	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    145	20-Sep	@BAL	L  3-4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0		0		0	0	0	0			3rd	LF						
    147	23-Sep	NYY	L  1-5	4	4	0	1	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	3rd	LF						
    148	24-Sep	NYY	L  5-6	5	3	1	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    149	25-Sep	NYY	L  3-4	4	4	0	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    150	27-Sep	BAL	L  3-17	3	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF						
    151	28-Sep	BAL	W  5-4	4	3	2	1	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3rd	LF

    Comment


    • All that is left in terms of research is 1951 and 1956 and the lefty games of 1941, 1940, and 1939. I have the game logs for 1939-1941 but not the lefty breakdown.

      Retrosheet has every single game from 1951 that I need but they won't release it and they have every single game except for 3 in 1956.
      Last edited by Ubiquitous; 05-17-2007, 09:32 PM.

      Comment


      • I am willing to concede that Ted might not have hit well against LH pitchers after his injury in the 1950 ASG. But I still believe in my heart of hearts that he had essentially NO WEAKNESSES prior to that 1950 injury.

        It is too bad that there is so much difficulty getting retro data prior to 1951.
        Luke

        Comment


        • Originally posted by Appling View Post
          I am willing to concede that Ted might not have hit well against LH pitchers after his injury in the 1950 ASG. But I still believe in my heart of hearts that he had essentially NO WEAKNESSES prior to that 1950 injury.

          It is too bad that there is so much difficulty getting retro data prior to 1951.
          It is not really prior to 1951. Retrosheet has a ton of info going back to 1946 or 1947 but won't releaseit because it isn't complete for a large chunk of teams. I can respect that in most cases but I think it is silly to do so for the greats. Last month they posted the complete statistical picture for Jackie Robinson. Yet they won't do that for Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle, or Ted Williams. Heck they have a ton of info Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig as well. They have complete PBP data for Yankee games through a very chunk of the 1920's.

          Comment


          • Coming at you live from Cooperstown here are the missing game logs. I haven't put in the home/away, win/loss, PH yet. I'll do that when I get back home. I will also fix the errors in two game logs when I get back.

            Here is 1951
            Code:
            Date	AB	R 	H	sin	2B	3B	HR	RBI  	BB 	K 	TB
            17-Apr	3		1	1					1		1
            18-Apr	4	1	1	1						2	1
            20-Apr	4		1	1				1			1
            21-Apr	3	2	1	0			1	2	1		4
            22-Apr	2	2	1	0			1	2	2		4
            22-Apr	2	1		0					1		0
            24-Apr	4	1	2	1			1	1			5
            26-Apr	4	1	1	1				1	1	1	1
            27-Apr	4		1	1				1		1	1
            28-Apr	4	1	1	1						1	1
            29-Apr	3	1	1	0			1	2	4		4
            1-May	3			0					1	1	0
            2-May	3			0					1		0
            3-May	2	2		0					3		0
            4-May	3			0					1		0
            5-May	6		2	1	1			1			3
            6-May	4	1	1	0			1	1	2		4
            6-May	4			0							0
            7-May	2		1	1				1	2	1	1
            12-May	3			0					2	1	0
            13-May	4	2	1	0			1	3	2	1	4
            14-May	3	1		0					3		0
            15-May	4	2	2	0	1		1	3	2		6
            16-May	3	1		0					1		0
            18-May	4		1	1							1
            19-May	4		2	2				1	1		2
            20-May	4			0							0
            21-May	4	2	3	1	1		1	3			7
            22-May	5		3	3							3
            23-May	1	2		0				2	5		0
            25-May	5	3	3	0	2		1	4	2		8
            26-May	3	1	2	1	1			2	1		3
            27-May	3	3	3	1	2			2	1		5
            27-May	3	1	1	0			1	4			4
            28-May	4			0							0
            30-May	8	2	4	1	2		1	2		1	9
            30-May	5	1	3	1	1	1		3			6
            1-Jun	4		1	1							1
            2-Jun	2			0					3	1	0
            3-Jun	3	2		0					2		0
            3-Jun	3	1		0					1		0
            4-Jun	4	1	3	2	1			2		1	4
            4-Jun	3			0					1		0
            5-Jun	4		1	1							1
            6-Jun	2			0				1	3	1	0
            7-Jun	3	2	1	1					2		1
            8-Jun	3			0					1	1	0
            9-Jun	3			0					1		0
            10-Jun	4		1	0			1	2	1		4
            10-Jun	3	2	1	1				3	2		1
            12-Jun	4	1	1	0	1				1	2	2
            13-Jun	3		1	0	1			1	1		2
            16-Jun	2	3	1	1					2		1
            17-Jun	3		2	2				2	2		2
            17-Jun	3	2	2	1			1	2			5
            18-Jun	4	2	1	1							1
            19-Jun	4	1	3	2			1	4	1		6
            20-Jun	3			0					2		0
            21-Jun	5	2	3	2	1			1			4
            22-Jun	3	2	2	1	1			1	2		3
            23-Jun	4	2	2	1	1			1	2		3
            24-Jun	4		2	0	2			1			4
            24-Jun	3	1	2	2				1	1		2
            26-Jun	5	2	3	2		1		4			5
            27-Jun	4	1	2	2				1			2
            29-Jun	2		1	1				1	1		1
            30-Jun	5		1	1						1	1
            1-Jul	3			0					1		0
            2-Jul	4	2	2	2					1	1	2
            3-Jul	3		1	1					1		1
            4-Jul	4			0				1	1		0
            4-Jul	3			0					2		0
            5-Jul	5	1	3	1	1		1	3			7
            6-Jul	3		1	1					1		1
            7-Jul	3	2	2	1			1	2	1	1	5
            8-Jul	3	2	2	2					1		2
            12-Jul	3			0					1		0
            12-Jul	0			0					1		0
            13-Jul	0			0					1		0
            14-Jul	4	1	1	0			1	1			4
            15-Jul	3			0					1		0
            15-Jul	3		2	2				1	2		2
            16-Jul	4	2	2	1			1	2	1		5
            17-Jul	4			0							0
            18-Jul	5		1	1				1			1
            19-Jul	4			0					1		0
            20-Jul	2			0					2	1	0
            21-Jul	3			0					2		0
            22-Jul	4		1	1					1		1
            24-Jul	5	2	4	3			1	2			7
            25-Jul	4			0				1			0
            26-Jul	4	1	2	1			1	2	1	1	5
            27-Jul	3		1	1					1		1
            28-Jul	5	2	2	1	1			1	3	1	3
            29-Jul	3	1	1	0			1	3	1		4
            31-Jul	5	1	2	2							2
            1-Aug	3	1	1	0			1	1	2		4
            2-Aug	3	1	1	0	1			2	2	1	2
            2-Aug	4	1	1	1					1		1
            3-Aug	4			0							0
            4-Aug	3			0					1		0
            5-Aug	3		2	2					2	1	2
            5-Aug	4		1	1				1	1		1
            7-Aug	3	2	2	1	1				1		3
            9-Aug	4	1	1	0			1	1		1	4
            9-Aug	4	1	1	1				1		1	1
            10-Aug	4		1	1							1
            11-Aug	5		2	2							2
            12-Aug	4	2	2	2							2
            12-Aug	3		1	1				1	2		1
            14-Aug	4	2	3	1			2	3	1		9
            15-Aug	4			0							0
            16-Aug	4		1	1							1
            17-Aug	5		1	1					1		1
            18-Aug	5	1	2	0	1	1		5			5
            19-Aug	4	2	1	0			1	2	1		4
            21-Aug	5			0						1	0
            22-Aug	6		3	3					1		3
            23-Aug	3	2	1	1					3	1	1
            24-Aug	3			0					1		0
            25-Aug	4			0							0
            26-Aug	5	2	3	1	2			1			5
            26-Aug	4		2	2				1		1	2
            28-Aug	5	1	1	1						2	1
            29-Aug	3	2	2	1			1	3	2	1	5
            30-Aug	4			0					2	3	0
            5-Sep	2	2	2	1			1	1	2		5
            7-Sep	3		2	2				1	2		2
            7-Sep	4		1	1				1		2	1
            8-Sep	2	1		0					3		0
            9-Sep	4		1	1					1		1
            9-Sep	4		1	1				1			1
            11-Sep	3		1	1				2	1	1	1
            12-Sep	2			0					3	1	0
            13-Sep	3			0				2	1	2	0
            14-Sep	5	2	2	1			1			1	5
            15-Sep	2		1	1					2		1
            16-Sep	4			0				3			0
            17-Sep	4	2	4	2	1		1	1	1		8
            18-Sep	4		2	1	1						3
            19-Sep	4			0							0
            21-Sep	4		1	1							1
            22-Sep	3	1	1	0		1		2	2		3
            23-Sep	4		2	2							2
            25-Sep	4			0							0
            26-Sep	4	1	1	1						2	1
            27-Sep	5	1	1	1							1
            28-Sep	3			0					1	1	0
            	531	109	169	107	28	4	30	126	143	45	295
            	AB	R 	H	sin	2B	3B	HR	RBI  	BB 	K 	TB

            Comment


            • Here is 1954. I'll clean them up later.

              Code:
              Date	AB	R 	H	sin	2B	3B	HR	RBI  	BB 	K 	TB
              15-May	2			0							0
              16-May	4	1	3	3				2			3
              16-May	5	2	5	2	1		2	5			12
              17-May	2	1		0					2		0
              18-May	4		1	1				1			1
              19-May	4	1	1	0	1						2
              21-May	3		1	1					2		1
              22-May	3		1	1					1	1	1
              23-May	3	3	2	2				1	3		2
              25-May	3		1	1				1	1		1
              26-May	4		1	1					1		1
              28-May	2	1		0					3		0
              29-May	3	1	1	0			1	1	1	1	4
              30-May	1	1		0					3	1	0
              31-May	2	2	1	0			1	4	1		4
              31-May	4	1	2	1	1						3
              1-Jun	4		1	1							1
              2-Jun	3	1		0					1		0
              3-Jun	4	1	1	0			1	3	1	1	4
              4-Jun	4		2	2							2
              5-Jun	4			0							0
              5-Jun	4	1	1	0	1					1	2
              23-Jun	1			0							0
              25-Jun	1	1	1	0			1	2			4
              26-Jun	3	1	1	1				1	1		1
              27-Jun	4		1	1				1		1	1
              29-Jun	4		1	1							1
              30-Jun	2	1		0					3		0
              1-Jul	3		1	1				3	1		1
              2-Jul	3	1	2	2				1	1	1	2
              3-Jul	2	1	1	1					2		1
              4-Jul	4	2	1	1					1		1
              5-Jul	2	2	2	0	2			1	3		4
              5-Jul	3			0					1	1	0
              6-Jul	2			0				1	1	1	0
              7-Jul	3	1	2	1			1	2	1		5
              9-Jul	2	1		0					3		0
              10-Jul	3		2	1	1			1	2	1	3
              11-Jul	2	4	2	1			1	3	3		5
              11-Jul	4		2	2					1		2
              15-Jul	4	2	1	0			1	1			4
              15-Jul	4	1		0					1	1	0
              16-Jul	2		1	0	1				2		2
              17-Jul	3	1	1	0	1				1		2
              18-Jul	4	1	1	1							1
              18-Jul	2	1	1	0			1	1	2		4
              19-Jul	3	1	1	0			1	3	2		4
              19-Jul	3	2	1	0			1	1	2		4
              20-Jul	6	1	1	1				1	1	1	1
              21-Jul	4		3	1	1		1	1	1		7
              22-Jul	3	1	1	0			1	2	2		4
              22-Jul	3	1	1	1					1		1
              23-Jul	4	1	1	0	1						2
              24-Jul	4	2	3	2			1	1	1		6
              25-Jul	3	1	1	1					1	1	1
              25-Jul	4		2	2					1		2
              27-Jul	3			0				1	1	1	0
              28-Jul	4		2	2				1			2
              29-Jul	1	2	1	0			1	2	4		4
              30-Jul	4			0						1	0
              31-Jul	3	1	2	1			1	2	2		5
              1-Aug	5	2	3	1	1		1	4			7
              3-Aug	4		1	1							1
              4-Aug	3	1	1	0			1	3	2		4
              5-Aug	5		1	1							1
              6-Aug	3	1	1	0			1	2	2		4
              7-Aug	4			0							0
              8-Aug	3		1	1					3		1
              8-Aug	3	1	1	1					1		1
              10-Aug	2	1	2	2				1	2		2
              11-Aug	4	2	3	1			2	4	1		9
              11-Aug	4			0						2	0
              12-Aug	3	1		0					1	1	0
              12-Aug	2	1		0					2		0
              13-Aug	4	1	2	2					1		2
              14-Aug	2			0					3		0
              15-Aug	4	1		0				1	1		0
              17-Aug	4			0					1	2	0
              18-Aug	6			0				1		2	0
              19-Aug	2	3	2	1	1				4		3
              20-Aug	3	1	3	2	1				1		4
              21-Aug	2	2		0					3	1	0
              22-Aug	4	2	3	1	1		1	4	1		7
              24-Aug	4	2	1	1					1		1
              25-Aug	3	1	1	0	1			2	1		2
              26-Aug	4	1	2	1			1	1			5
              27-Aug	3		1	1					1		1
              28-Aug	1			0					4		0
              29-Aug	3		1	1					1		1
              29-Aug	3		2	1	1			1	1		3
              30-Aug	2	1	1	1					2		1
              1-Sep	3	1	1	1					2		1
              1-Sep	3		1	0	1				1		2
              3-Sep	4	2	2	1			1	3			5
              4-Sep	4			0					1		0
              5-Sep	4	3	2	1			1	2	1	1	5
              5-Sep	4		1	0	1				1		2
              6-Sep	4		2	1		1		1	1		4
              6-Sep	5	1	4	3	1			1			5
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              9-Sep	4	1		0					1		0
              10-Sep	4			0					1	2	0
              11-Sep	3		1	1					1		1
              12-Sep	4	1	1	0			1	1	1		4
              12-Sep	4			0				1			0
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              17-Sep	4			0						1	0
              18-Sep	4	1	2	1	1			1	1	1	3
              19-Sep	3	1	1	0	1			1	2	1	2
              20-Sep	3	1	1	0			1	1	2	1	4
              21-Sep	4		3	2	1			1	1		4
              21-Sep	3			0					2		0
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              24-Sep	2	1	1	1					3		1
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              26-Sep	4	1	1	0			1	1	1	1	4
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              • 1956 season is now up at Retrosheet.

                Ted Williams line against lefties that year:

                123 AB .390/.507/.610

                Yep that is right folks he hit .390 against lefties!!!

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                • 1954 splits: 108 AB .287/.430/370

                  1955 splits: 94 AB .330/.430/.691

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                  • Originally posted by Ubiquitous View Post
                    1954 splits: 108 AB .287/.430/370

                    1955 splits: 94 AB .330/.430/.691
                    Is that correct, Uniq, Williams slugged .370 against lefties in 1954?
                    Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 06-27-2008, 03:35 PM.
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                    • Yep 3 doubles and 2 homers. IT is hard to blame it on the collarbone since he crushed righties that year, but he does bounce back and crush righties the next two years so . . . .
                      Last edited by Ubiquitous; 06-27-2008, 03:09 PM.

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                      • Great question. I'm curious too.

                        Originally posted by Appling View Post
                        How is it that you can find RHP vs. LHP splits data for the full careers of Cobb and Ruth, but not for Ted Williams?

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                        • If your goal is to determine how well Williams hit vs LHP, it's going to be heard with only 100 PA a season. There will be wide fluctuations just on luck.

                          Once you have enough seasons, I would suggest looking each season at the past 5 seasons, giving 500-600 vs lefties.

                          Even for the years Retrosheet has released, there are missing games prior to 1974, and they are usually because of two or three teams, such as the Braves, Pirates and Astros in the 60's. It is quite possible that there are many Red Sox games missing in the years not yet released.
                          Baseball Prospectus articles
                          FanGraphs articles
                          MVN Statistically Speaking articles
                          Seam Heads articles

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                          • So we have 36% of his games documented, in total?

                            Code:
                            Versus RHP
                            .347  .490  .665
                            Versus LHP
                            .297  .428  .475
                            Still looks like Al Kaline (with many more walks) against LHP...... and Babe Ruth against right handed pitching. Or, in terms of unadjusted OPS against LHP.... the career totals of Juan Gonzalez, Jim Edmonds, and Mo Vaughn are closest. About 60th all time. The overall discrepancy in production still seems quite high; I'd like to see it juxtaposed with the average platoon split.

                            Also, he faced lefties 24% of the time from 1954 on, so we can't say he wasn't facing LHP, as was the case with Duke Snider during that same timeframe. One quarter is about average. Snider faced lefties only about 8% of time from 1953 onwards.

                            It'll be very interesting to see how things play out as we go further back in time.

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                            • Why does it matter that he was weaker against lefties? I don't get why that should reduce his overall value.

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                              • Originally posted by SABR Matt View Post
                                Why does it matter that he was weaker against lefties? I don't get why that should reduce his overall value.
                                It's not about overall value. We already know his overall value. This thread was not created to discuss what we already have at our disposal. If you take a look back at the first several pages of the thread you'll see the importance people have ascribed to this issue to begin with, and why it continues to generate discussion 4 years and 218 posts later.

                                Williams' hitting against lefties draws into question the strength his candidacy as greatest hitter ever, and also questions about how he'd do in different eras with varying conditions and contexts (which again, brings it back to his place among the top few hitters ever).

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