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  • JDanger
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    Screen shot 2012-06-03 at 3.11.54 PM.png

    I've seen this done a number of different ways but this thread inspired me to create my own chart related to the topic.

    I queried the average OPS of all position players in the NL and compared that to the average OPS of all pitchers in the NL since 1887. The growth in the separation between the two is perhaps an indication of how much the offensive talent pool has improved over time-- assuming pitcher's hitting has remained relatively the same during that period of time.

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  • drstrangelove
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    Originally posted by fenrir View Post
    I've always been a big believer in league quality adjustments when ranking players and pitchers. My question is, has there ever been any good studies done that tries to figure out how much the quality of play has improved, if even at all? What about stats? Is there a stat out there that does take something like league quality into account?
    Quality has, afaik, been stated with three independent issues at heart: 1) competiveness / balance, 2) actual player skill / training and, 3) player physical ability. Modern day theorists differ on how to measure or evaluate these three in 'adjusting' for league quality.

    The Hardball Times study that Matthew C posted in the only one I've seen. Bill James also had some anecdotal verbiage on it.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Originally posted by fenrir View Post
    I've always been a big believer in league quality adjustments when ranking players and pitchers. My question is, has there ever been any good studies done that tries to figure out how much the quality of play has improved, if even at all? What about stats? Is there a stat out there that does take something like league quality into account?
    Baseball Gauge's WAR has a timeline LQ adjustment, derived from the following study, FWIW to you:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...eague-quality/

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  • Iowanic
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    Here's a thought....

    If you believe that the war-years(World war II) offered a lesser quality of play; then you have something to compare the following years to.

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  • fenrir
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    League Quality Adjustments

    I've always been a big believer in league quality adjustments when ranking players and pitchers. My question is, has there ever been any good studies done that tries to figure out how much the quality of play has improved, if even at all? What about stats? Is there a stat out there that does take something like league quality into account?

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