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  • #46
    By the way, I am guessing that Ott may have had a higher s-OPS+ on the road, or very close. I think Yaz' s-OPS+ IS better at home though, I'm guessing maybe 134 to 126. And I can pretty much promise you that Boggs was MUCH better at home.

    People also underestimate the road versus home effect.

    A .300/.400/.500 hitter will naturally be 12-20 points higher in each of the 3 percentages at home than on the road.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by brett View Post
      Yea. He had a 91 home tOPS+ because his home park was a low offensive park, but he was only hurt a little more than the average player by that park.
      That makes sense.

      Can we do anything to adjust for the expected home boost?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
        That makes sense.

        Can we do anything to adjust for the expected home boost?
        The answer is to use his road s-OPS+. Its how he hit relative to everyone on the road in basically neutral parks. So his 145 road s-OPS+ would be what we would expect him to do at home in a normal park.

        Personally I have tended to take a players s-OPS+ and average it with his overall OPS+, with the assumption that there is some adaptation ability. For example if Boggs road s-OPS+ was 116 and his overall was 130, I'd tend to rate him splitting the difference at 123, assuming that he was 116 in a neutral setting but that his road rates may have been a little hurt because he adapted his style to his home park, and that his ability to adapt was a plus.

        And consider that for Yaz the splits are significant. If Boston were not an offensive park, it would be like taking a .300 hitter and first having him hit about .306 at home and .294 on the road because of normal splits and THEN going .314 at home and .286 on the road because his park also was tailored to his particular style.
        Last edited by brett; 05-05-2014, 07:51 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by brett View Post
          The answer is to use his road s-OPS+. Its how he hit relative to everyone on the road in basically neutral parks. So his 145 road s-OPS+ would be what we would expect him to do at home in a normal park.

          Personally I have tended to take a players s-OPS+ and average it with his overall OPS+, with the assumption that there is some adaptation ability. For example if Boggs road s-OPS+ was 116 and his overall was 130, I'd tend to rate him splitting the difference at 123, assuming that he was 116 in a neutral setting but that his road rates may have been a little hurt because he adapted his style to his home park, and that his ability to adapt was a plus.
          I dont agree with your reasoning, simply because sometimes players just land in the right situation. It's not necessarily that they're doing anything different.

          But I would be in favor of doing that, the avg of road sOPS+ and overall, if the road is lower. If road is higher something should also be done.
          Last edited by Sultan_1895-1948; 05-05-2014, 07:45 AM.

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          • #50
            I did a quick run of Yaz, and since the DH came in, he ended up with an average pitcher effect of .96.

            I got 133 home and 127 road within rounding variations of about 1 point, just a quick check.

            Doesn't seem like a big split , but it would have cost him 4.7 WAA and WAR which is nearly 10% of his career WAA had hit hit relatively as well at home as on the road. What it means is that everyone was helped by the park, but he was helped about 20% more than average.

            So is a 127 road OPS+ consistent with his .357 and .422 career marks in OB and slugging?

            The answer is yes. I sampled a few season and got a league average of about .316 and .374 during his career. The pitcher effect and the road effect are just about equal and opposite for him. Using those rates I get 126 on the road, and he also didn't get to hit in Boston on the road which is worth about an extra point.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
              I dont agree with your reasoning, simply because sometimes players just land in the right situation. It's not necessarily that they're doing anything different.

              But I would be in favor of doing that, the avg of road sOPS+ and overall, if the road is lower. If road is higher something should also be done.
              When a player is better on the road I don't usually average them. I figure that he is better in at least 7 out of 8 parks and HIS park is the anomaly. But we should at least figure he'd have to hit there 1/8 of the time? And this is especially true if we can identify a physical reason that explains the lower relative home rates. If a player is better at home though, I do tend to think that while he was able to take advantage, his approach may have cost him in part on the road.

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              • #52
                Code:
                      ROAD RELATIVE OPS+
                (rrOPS+)            actual OPS+ in ( )
                HOME/ROAD   LG SPECIFIC  (ROAD SA ÷ LG ROAD SA)            ...HOME/ROAD     LG SPECIFIC    .(ROAD OBP ÷ LG ROAD OBP)        ..(HOME PARK AS ROAD)         (rrOPS++)
                .RAW SA     SA   SA      .ROAD SA           ROAD REL SA       RAW OBP    OBP  OBP      ROAD OBP         ROAD REL OBP      LG OPS+  (PITCHERS REMOVED)  (WEIGHTED FOR PLAYING TIME)
                Code:
                Ruth              .690     .698 /.682     .3695             1.845           .474     .483 /.466       .3335              1.397          94.00         209.5               216.3 (206)
                
                TWilliams         .634     .652 /.615     .3758             1.636           .482     .496 /.467       .3305              1.413          93.57         191.2               189.2 (190)
                
                Gehrig            .632     .620 /.644     .3929             1.639           .447     .436 /.458       .3429              1.335          93.76         183.5               180.6 (179)
                
                BaBonds           .607     .618 /.597     .3960             1.507           .444     .449 /.440       .3219              1.366          93.95         177.4               197.5 (182)
                
                Hornsby          .577     .589 /.565     .3734             1.513           .434     .437 /.431       .3280              1.314          93.73         172.1               168.3 (175)
                
                Mantle          .557     .569 /.545     .3716             1.466           .420     .428 /.413       .3167              1.304          93.38         166.9               166.2 (172)
                
                Cobb('14-'28)     .512     .503 /.516     .3602             1.432           .441     .437 /.445       .3327              1.337          94.06         166.7               154.9 (168)
                
                JJackson('14-'20) .491     .484 /.497     .3282             1.514           .405     .400 /.410       .3194              1.283          94.00         166.1               124.1 (158)
                
                JDiMaggio         .579     .546 /.610     .3817             1.598           .398     .391 /.405       .3392              1.193          93.46         164.2               149.2 (155)
                
                Pujols            .588     .587 /.590     .4028             1.464           .403     .412 /.395       .3212              1.229          95.42         161.6               156.9 (162)
                
                McGwire           .588     .591 /.586     .4055             1.445           .394     .402 /.386       .3286              1.174          98.37         160.1               146.0 (163)
                
                MRamirez          .585     .591 /.580     .4176             1.388           .411     .413 /.409       .3308              1.236          99.26         159.3               157.9 (154)
                
                Musial            .559     .582 /.537     .3755             1.430           .417     .427 /.407       .3199              1.272          93.13         158.6               174.5 (159)
                
                Foxx              .609     .663 /.561     .3870             1.449           .429     .453 /.405       .3384              1.196          93.60         156.1               154.2 (163)
                
                Mays          .557     .567 /.549     .3755             1.462           .384     .387 /.382       .3137              1.217          92.90         155.9               169.8 (156)
                
                Aaron          .555     .557 /.552     .3738             1.476           .374     .379 /.369       .3136              1.176          93.56         154.5               176.1 (155)
                
                DAllen            .534     .548 /.519     .3633             1.428           .378     .384 /.372       .3101              1.199          94.40         154.1               138.8 (156)
                
                CKeller           .518     .525 /.510     .3672             1.388           .410     .406 /.414       .3317              1.248          93.69         152.9               124.3 (152)
                
                MCabrera          .564     .579 /.550     .4050             1.358           .396     .406 /.388       .3217              1.206          97.50         152.8               141.2 (154)
                
                Mize          .562     .598 /.527     .3685             1.430           .397     .406 /.389       .3275              1.187          93.46         152.8               139.6 (158)
                
                Ott          .533     .558 /.510     .3712             1.373           .415     .422 /.408       .3258              1.252          93.45         152.6               159.6 (155)
                
                FThomas           .555     .599 /.511     .4154             1.230           .419     .424 /.414       .3313              1.249          99.89         149.7               150.0 (156)
                
                FRobinson         .537     .573 /.504     .3702             1.361           .389     .403 /.376       .3119              1.205          94.19         149.1               157.6 (154)
                
                Heilmann          .520     .527 /.515     .3706             1.389           .410     .417 /.402       .3344              1.202          93.94         149.0               143.9 (148)
                
                Piazza          .545     .515 /.572     .4055             1.410           .377     .364 /.388       .3257              1.191          94.50         148.9               138.0 (142) - C
                
                EMartinez         .515     .517 /.514     .4117             1.248           .418     .423 /.412       .3303              1.247          99.88         148.7               142.2 (147)
                
                EMathews          .509     .488 /.529     .3788             1.396           .376     .370 /.382       .3130              1.220          92.88         148.2               148.6 (143)
                
                Thome             .554     .579 /.529     .4122             1.283           .402     .406 /.398       .3290              1.209          98.90         147.4               148.7 (147)
                
                Schmidt          .527     .540 /.515     .3661             1.406           .380     .393 /.368       .3145              1.170          93.61         147.3               147.5 (147)
                
                Speaker('14-'28)  .504     .545 /.464     .3602             1.288           .434     .455 /.414       .3327              1.244          94.06         146.5               140.7 (154)
                
                McCovey           .515     .527 /.504     .3683             1.368           .374     .377 /.372       .3123              1.191          93.27         145.8               144.3 (147)
                
                Bagwell           .540     .560 /.521     .4013             1.298           .408     .417 /.398       .3243              1.227          94.13         144.8               142.2 (149)
                
                BTerry            .507     .487 /.525     .3855             1.361           .393     .382 /.403       .3308              1.218          93.57         144.7               131.7 (136)
                
                Greenberg         .605     .681 /.529     .3867             1.367           .412     .440 /.382       .3379              1.130          93.46         144.4               127.0 (158)
                
                Killebrew         .509     .519 /.498     .3683             1.352           .376     .379 /.372       .3140              1.184          94.13         144.1               143.3 (143)
                
                Stargell          .529     .543 /.515     .3647             1.412           .360     .371 /.350       .3118              1.122          93.28         144.0               139.7 (147)
                
                BHerman           .532     .532 /.532     .3825             1.390           .383     .384 /.382       .3306              1.155          93.46         143.4               127.0 (141)
                
                ABelle          .564     .580 /.549     .4103             1.338           .369     .375 /.364       .3320              1.096          99.91         143.4               128.9 (144)
                
                RJackson          .490     .481 /.499     .3751             1.330           .356     .349 /.362       .3165              1.143          98.00         142.9               148.9 (139)
                
                McGriff           .509     .508 /.510     .4018             1.269           .377     .377 /.376       .3080              1.220          97.00         141.8               142.5 (134)
                
                ARodriguez        .550     .564 /.536     .4169             1.285           .380     .385 /.375       .3280              1.143          99.81         141.8               151.0 (140)  
                
                Kiner          .548     .593 /.503     .3790             1.329           .398     .414 /.381       .3270              1.165          93.10         141.5               125.9 (149)
                
                VGuerrero         .553     .568 /.536     .4110             1.304           .379     .381 /.376       .3269              1.150          97.12         140.9               137.0 (140)
                
                HWilson           .545     .572 /.517     .3867             1.336           .395     .408 /.382       .3316              1.151          93.58         140.3               122.3 (144)
                
                Snider            .540     .569 /.511     .3838             1.331           .380     .390 /.369       .3200              1.153          92.88         138.3               131.5 (140)
                
                Sheffield         .514     .527 /.501     .4025             1.244           .393     .402 /.384       .3255              1.179          96.54         137.9               141.4 (140)
                
                ECollins('14-'30) .425     .418 /.430     .3652             1.177           .429     .426 /.431       .3335              1.292          94.11         137.6               131.6 (136)
                
                Cravath('14-'20)  .477     .568 /.394     .3235             1.217           .380     .400 /.361       .3041              1.187          94.14         137.5               111.7 (154)
                
                FHoward           .499     .507 /.491     .3668             1.338           .474     .361 /.344       .3093              1.112          93.25         136.9               127.1 (142)
                
                Mauer             .459     .444 /.469     .4080             1.149           .401     .398 /.400       .3230              1.238          99.90         136.8               121.2 (133) - C
                
                CJones            .529     .558 /.501     .4045             1.238           .401     .413 /.389       .3242              1.199          94.21         136.7               138.9 (141)
                
                Vaughan           .453     .460 /.448     .3672             1.220           .406     .410 /.402       .3222              1.247          93.28         136.6               128.2 (136)
                
                Cash              .488     .515 /.463     .3657             1.266           .374     .383 /.366       .3101              1.180          94.00         136.6               128.9 (139)
                
                KMitchell         .520     .528 /.511     .3874             1.319           .360     .370 /.350       .3202              1.093          95.38         136.4               117.0 (142)
                
                Tenace            .429     .415 /.441     .3641             1.211           .388     .392 /.384       .3147              1.220          95.20         136.1               119.9 (136) - C
                
                BGiles            .502     .500 /.505     .4161             1.213           .400     .404 /.396       .3302              1.199          95.80         135.4               127.7 (136)
                
                Berger            .522     .535 /.509     .3780             1.346           .359     .362 /.357       .3257              1.096          93.27         135.3               119.9 (138)
                
                Colavito          .488     .487 /.489     .3714             1.316           .359     .361 /.358       .3130              1.143          93.28         135.0               126.4 (132)
                
                JGonzalez         .561     .565 /.557     .4134             1.347           .343     .354 /.333       .3308              1.006          99.88         134.3               124.5 (132)
                
                JRobinson         .474     .491 /.456     .3842             1.186           .409     .410 /.408       .3249              1.255          93.10         133.5               119.4 (132)
                
                BJohnson          .506     .540 /.475     .3771             1.259           .393     .402 /.385       .3346              1.150          93.46         133.4               126.8 (139)
                
                LWalker           .565     .637 /.495     .3975             1.245           .400     .431 /.370       .3228              1.146          94.11         133.4               126.8 (141)
                
                Goslin          .500     .484 /.514     .3920             1.311           .387     .388 /.386       .3426              1.126          93.88         133.1               132.5 (128)
                
                Kaline            .480     .501 /.458     .3687             1.242           .376     .383 /.369       .3144              1.173          93.86         133.1               138.3 (134)
                
                Palmeiro          .515     .527 /.502     .4074             1.232           .371     .375 /.366       .3281              1.115          98.85         132.8               139.5 (132)
                
                Winfield          .475     .463 /.485     .3841             1.262           .353     .349 /.356       .3213              1.107          97.72         132.7               135.9 (130)
                
                Carew             .429     .434 /.425     .3716             1.143           .393     .401 /.385       .3156              1.219          97.78         132.5               134.2 (131)
                
                Brett             .487     .506 /.469     .3853             1.217           .369     .383 /.356       .3218              1.106          100.0         132.3               137.5 (135)
                
                Canseco           .515     .511 /.518     .4083             1.268           .353     .358 /.348       .3295              1.056          99.94         132.2               126.1 (132)
                
                Edmonds           .527     .536 /.518     .4153             1.247           .376     .381 /.371       .3302              1.123          96.52         132.1               125.6 (132)
                
                ASimmons          .535     .560 /.511     .3855             1.325           .380     .397 /.364       .3381              1.076          93.70         131.6               130.0 (133)
                
                PWaner            .473     .505 /.442     .3701             1.194           .404     .417 /.391       .3250              1.203          93.50         131.4               133.8 (134)
                
                BNicholson        .465     .458 /.473     .3686             1.283           .365     .366 /.365       .3249              1.123          93.31         131.3               120.0 (132)
                
                Sisler            .468     .505 /.432     .3420             1.263           .379     .397 /.361       .3126              1.154          94.03         131.1               128.0 (125)
                
                BoBonds           .471     .478 /.464     .3667             1.265           .353     .356 /.351       .3157              1.111          95.71         130.9               124.9 (129)
                
                Cochrane          .478     .485 /.472     .3930             1.201           .419     .429 /.410       .3416              1.200          93.76         130.7               119.0 (129) - C
                
                Kruk              .446     .456 /.436     .3801             1.147           .397     .405 /.389       .3166              1.228          94.30         130.7               114.1 (134)
                
                Strawberry        .505     .529 /.484     .3899             1.241           .357     .361 /.353       .3214              1.098          95.47         130.3               119.1 (138)
                
                KWilliams         .531     .601 /.459     .3702             1.239           .394     .414 /.374       .3342              1.119          94.00         130.2               116.9 (138)
                
                Griffey Jr        .538     .573 /.505     .4097             1.232           .370     .385 /.355       .3288              1.079          97.70         130.0               133.9 (136)
                
                KHernandez        .436     .440 /.433     .3672             1.179           .384     .388 /.381       .3147              1.210          94.05         129.9               125.5 (128)
                
                RHenderson        .419     .404 /.432     .4007             1.078           .401     .398 /.404       .3258              1.240          98.88         129.4               139.2 (127)
                
                Gwynn             .459     .466 /.451     .3861             1.168           .388     .393 /.384       .3192              1.203          93.85         129.4               130.0 (132)
                
                EMurray           .476     .470 /.482     .3923             1.228           .359     .364 /.356       .3267              1.089          98.42         129.4               137.7 (129)
                
                BiWilliams        .492     .525 /.459     .3683             1.246           .361     .374 /.349       .3118              1.119          93.66         129.1               130.6 (133)
                
                Medwick           .505     .541 /.470     .3645             1.289           .362     .378 /.347       .3222              1.076          93.41         129.1               123.6 (134)
                
                Gehringer         .480     .482 /.479     .3908             1.225           .404     .410 /.399       .3410              1.170          93.63         128.9               129.6 (124)
                
                Morgan            .427     .434 /.420     .3650             1.150           .392     .405 /.380       .3120              1.217          93.59         128.9               132.7 (132)
                
                Helton            .539     .607 /.469     .4048             1.158           .414     .441 /.386       .3236              1.192          94.23         128.6               127.0 (133)
                
                MVaughn           .523     .550 /.496     .4145             1.196           .383     .402 /.363       .3325              1.091          99.00         128.5               118.2 (132)
                
                Veach('14-'25)    .449     .462 /.437     .3543             1.233           .371     .377 /.368       .3305              1.113          94.16         127.2               118.8 (129)
                
                JGordon           .466     .447 /.482     .3738             1.289           .357     .345 /.367       .3354              1.094          93.45         126.9               117.5 (120)
                
                DwEvans          .470     .505 /.437     .3821             1.143           .370     .379 /.361       .3200              1.128          99.65         126.7               128.2 (127)
                
                Dickey            .486     .505 /.468     .3858             1.213           .382     .380 /.384       .3369              1.139          93.52         126.5               118.7 (127) - C
                
                Clemente          .475     .488 /.463     .3746             1.235           .359     .372 /.347       .3115              1.113          92.88         126.4               126.9 (130)
                
                Sosa              .534     .555 /.513     .4016             1.277           .344     .350 /.337       .3251              1.036          95.77         126.2               125.9 (128)
                
                Bench             .476     .486 /.466     .3630             1.283           .342     .348 /.335       .3135              1.068          93.47         126.1               122.6 (126) - C
                
                Staub             .431     .430 /.431     .3635             1.185           .362     .360 /.365       .3101              1.177          93.19         126.1               129.3 (124)
                
                Klein             .543     .618 /.466     .3729             1.249           .379     .410 /.346       .3255              1.062          93.35         125.9               118.5 (137)
                
                KGibson           .463     .462 /.464     .3939             1.177           .352     .351 /.353       .3241              1.089          100.0         125.7               117.1 (123)
                
                Grich          .424     .421 /.426     .3777             1.127           .371     .375 /.366       .3187              1.148          98.76         125.6               121.0 (125)
                
                BAbreu            .475     .494 /.456     .4062             1.122           .395     .412 /.379       .3242              1.169          96.11         125.0               125.2 (128)
                
                Yastrzemski       .462     .503 /.422     .3706             1.138           .379     .402 /.357       .3136              1.138          96.34         124.6               134.4 (130)
                
                Averill           .534     .588 /.478     .3930             1.216           .395     .421 /.368       .3396              1.083          93.61         124.3               117.5 (133)
                
                Boudreau          .415     .387 /.439     .3672             1.195           .380     .380 /.381       .3318              1.148          93.66         124.2               116.9 (120)
                
                Hartnett          .489     .512 /.466     .3814             1.221           .370     .380 /.360       .3296              1.092          93.50         123.5               117.1 (126) - C
                
                JRice          .502     .546 /.459     .3856             1.190           .352     .374 /.330       .3211              1.027          100.0         123.2               121.0 (128)
                
                Lazzeri           .467     .468 /.465     .3889             1.195           .380     .380 /.381       .3383              1.126          93.64         122.9               116.7 (121)
                
                Rolen             .490     .497 /.484     .4058             1.192           .364     .372 /.357       .3243              1.100          94.70         122.2               118.9 (122)
                
                Hodges            .487     .510 /.465     .3820             1.217           .359     .364 /.354       .3206              1.104          93.00         122.1               117.9 (120)
                
                FLynn             .484     .533 /.437     .3853             1.134           .360     .378 /.343       .3209              1.068          99.64         122.0               117.4 (129)
                
                Slaughter         .453     .477 /.429     .3727             1.151           .381     .395 /.368       .3236              1.137          93.21         121.0               119.0 (124)
                
                Dawson            .482     .481 /.483     .3743             1.290           .323     .330 /.316       .3162              .9993          94.33         120.9               122.5 (119)
                
                Berra             .482     .505 /.461     .3751             1.229           .348     .354 /.341       .3258              1.046          93.57         120.7               117.3 (125) - C
                
                Garciaparra       .521     .543 /.497     .4213             1.179           .361     .378 /.345       .3314              1.041          98.00         120.6               112.5 (124)
                
                Beltre            .479     .465 /.492     .4090             1.202           .337     .333 /.341       .3247              1.050          97.58         120.5               120.5 (116)
                
                HJohnson          .446     .432 /.459     .3805             1.206           .340     .340 /.339       .3163              1.071          95.07         120.5               111.7 (118)
                
                Raines          .425     .432 /.419     .3906             1.072           .385     .394 /.378       .3224              1.172          96.21         120.4               121.1 (123)
                
                Molitor           .448     .462 /.434     .3976             1.091           .369     .378 /.360       .3256              1.105          100.0         120.2               124.5 (122)
                
                Boggs          .443     .491 /.395     .4032             .9796           .415     .443 /.387       .3273              1.182          99.94         119.7               121.1 (131)
                
                DaEvans          .431     .442 /.420     .3727             1.126           .361     .365 /.357       .3167              1.127          95.09         119.0               120.4 (119)
                
                DParker           .471     .497 /.446     .3709             1.202           .339     .350 /.329       .3170              1.037          95.00         118.5               118.8 (121)
                
                Fisk              .457     .469 /.444     .3808             1.165           .341     .350 /.331       .3199              1.034          99.12         118.3               118.0 (117) - C
                
                CFielder          .482     .501 /.463     .4053             1.142           .345     .351 /.340       .3284              1.035          100.0         118.0               110.6 (119)
                
                Cronin            .468     .502 /.436     .3804             1.146           .390     .409 /.371       .3343              1.109          93.70         117.8               115.7 (119)
                
                KBoyer            .462     .480 /.443     .3756             1.179           .348     .357 /.340       .3107              1.094          92.86         117.6               114.5 (116)
                
                Rose          .409     .427 /.393     .3644             1.078           .375     .384 /.366       .3118              1.173          93.33         117.0               127.0 (118)
                
                AnJones           .486     .475 /.496     .4084             1.214           .337     .340 /.335       .3250              1.030          95.58         116.9               114.6 (111)
                
                Ripken Jr         .447     .435 /.459     .4040             1.136           .340     .336 /.344       .3276              1.050          99.95         116.8               121.6 (112)
                
                Kingman           .478     .478 /.478     .3704             1.290           .302     .304 /.299       .3164              .9450          95.00         116.7               112.4 (115)
                
                DMurphy           .469     .499 /.440     .3687             1.193           .346     .368 /.324       .3138              1.032          93.72         116.3               112.9 (121)
                
                Jeter             .440     .448 /.431     .4161             1.035           .377     .384 /.370       .3283              1.127          99.85         115.7               119.7 (115)
                
                Santo             .464     .522 /.406     .3680             1.103           .362     .383 /.342       .3101              1.102          93.33         115.5               114.5 (125)
                
                Galarraga         .499     .535 /.464     .3912             1.186           .347     .368 /.327       .3200              1.021          94.36         115.1               113.4 (119)
                
                Yount             .430     .435 /.425     .3858             1.101           .342     .347 /.338       .3217              1.050          100.0         115.0               118.3 (115)
                
                Banks             .500     .537 /.462     .3781             1.221           .330     .348 /.311       .3133              .9926          92.89         115.0               115.5 (122)
                
                Campanella        .500     .559 /.446     .3853             1.157           .360     .383 /.339       .3235              1.047          93.10         114.7               107.0 (123) - C
                
                RAlomar           .443     .454 /.432     .4072             1.060           .371     .379 /.363       .3282              1.106          98.11         114.7               115.2 (116)
                
                MWilliams         .489     .486 /.491     .3935             1.247           .317     .318 /.315       .3213              .9803          94.00         114.7               111.1 (113)
                
                EChavez           .475     .489 /.463     .4123             1.122           .342     .348 /.337       .3259              1.034          99.17         114.7               109.1 (115)
                
                Larkin            .444     .456 /.433     .3934             1.100           .371     .383 /.358       .3212              1.114          93.94         114.5               113.1 (116)
                
                Whitaker          .426     .448 /.405     .3927             1.031           .363     .370 /.357       .3237              1.102          100.0         114.2               114.1 (117)
                
                Puckett           .477     .521 /.430     .3958             1.086           .360     .388 /.331       .3248              1.019          100.0         113.8               110.8 (124)
                
                TWalker('14-'23)  .348     .460 /.416     .3459             1.202           .342     .356 /.323       .3264              .9895          94.10         113.8               106.9 (119)
                
                JLopez            .491     .503 /.480     .4073             1.178           .337     .342 /.333       .3262              1.020          95.33         113.6               107.8 (112) - C
                
                Appling           .398     .405 /.392     .3797             1.032           .399     .403 /.397       .3362              1.180          93.65         113.3               113.6 (113)
                
                Tettleton         .449     .487 /.411     .4009             1.025           .369     .385 /.352       .3269              1.076          100.0         113.0               107.4 (122) - C
                
                GCarter           .439     .447 /.430     .3663             1.173           .335     .348 /.322       .3141              1.025          93.73         112.9               111.6 (115) - C
                
                EHoward           .427     .406 /.446     .3714             1.200           .322     .327 /.318       .3128              1.016          93.28         112.0               107.0 (108) - C
                
                Kuhel             .406     .382 /.429     .3777             1.135           .359     .356 /.361       .3335              1.082          93.61         111.4               110.3 (104)
                
                SRice          .426     .442 /.412     .3719             1.107           .374     .392 /.357       .3352              1.065          94.10         110.6               110.8 (112)
                
                Trammell          .415     .423 /.408     .3952             1.032           .352     .362 /.341       .3248              1.049          100.0         108.5               107.9 (110)
                
                Sandberg          .452     .491 /.412     .3751             1.098           .344     .361 /.326       .3153              1.033          93.75         108.0               107.4 (115)
                
                Frisch            .432     .447 /.417     .3884             1.073           .369     .373 /.365       .3412              1.069          93.94         107.9               107.9 (110)
                
                Posada            .474     .504 /.447     .4198             1.064           .335     .348 /.322       .3310              .9728          99.88         107.8               105.5 (121) - C
                
                Traynor           .435     .457 /.415     .3834             1.082           .362     .377 /.349       .3304              1.056          93.64         106.6               105.4 (107)
                
                IRodriguez        .464     .482 /.447     .4138             1.080           .334     .345 /.322       .3299              .9760          99.23         105.0               105.1 (106) - C
                
                JCarter           .464     .478 /.451     .3996             1.128           .306     .310 /.302       .3263              .9255          99.37         104.7               104.3 (105)
                
                GNettles          .420     .455 /.388     .3696             1.049           .329     .345 /.315       .3146              1.001          96.59         103.5               103.5 (110)
                
                BRobinson         .401     .410 /.392     .3688             1.062           .322     .329 /.316       .3139              1.006          94.69         101.8               102.1 (104)
                
                Bichette          .499     .573 /.424     .3992             1.062           .336     .365 /.306       .3256              .9398          96.85          99.5                68.2 (107)
                
                Gaetti            .434     .448 /.420     .3979             1.055           .308     .316 /.300       .3251              .9227          98.85          96.7                96.5  (97)
                
                TPendleton        .391     .414 /.369     .3826             .9644           .316     .322 /.309       .3176              .9729          94.20          89.1                86.5  (92)
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                MAlou             .516     .556 /.479     .4161             1.035           .369     .384 /.356       .3283              1.127          99.85         115.7               119.7 (128)
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                *Players below under construction*
                
                
                
                
                
                
                Caminiti      .447     .449 .444  .4528
                Tettleton
                Trammel
                
                Gant
                Mitchell
                Raines
                Dykstra
                Van Slyke
                Bonilla
                HJohnson
                Powell
                EDavis
                Horner
                ESmith
                Pipp
                Ward
                Kelly
                CWilliams
                Felsch
                Hooper
                Meusel
                
                
                Trosky
                
                
                York  
                Pafko
                Dropo
                Sauer
                Ennis
                Rosen
                Colbert
                
                Berkman
                Horner
                DBaker
                JMayberry
                GThomas
                JLemon  
                Tperez
                Conigliaro
                Armas
                Oglivie
                .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......rrOPS+
                .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......STEP 1...(ROAD REL SA + ROAD REL OBP) - 1) * ( LEAGUE OPS+ / 100) * 100
                .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......STEP 2...(ROAD REL OPS+ * 3) + (RAW OPS+) / 4 (normalized to eight team league)

                .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......rrOPS++ = (HOME AS ROAD - 100) * (PA / 10,000) + 100




                Code:
                ROAD RELATIVE ERA+
                
                
                Relievers in Black                                                                          PARK ADJ ERA+     WEIGHTED BY 3600 IP                                      
                *Denotes Lefty                    ..HOME/ROAD      LG SPECIFIC  (LG ROAD ERA ÷ ROAD ERA)     raw ERA+ in ( )         OVERALL                      
                ..RAW ERA       ERA  .ERA    .  ROAD ERA       ROAD REL ERA+           HOME AS ROAD       FULLY ADJ ERA+
                Code:
                MRivera             2.21        2.46/1.94         4.671            240.7                231.7 (205)           146.9
                
                BWagner*            2.31        2.57/2.01         4.532            225.4                215.8 (187)           129.0
                
                Grove*              3.06        3.08/3.03         4.705            155.2                153.4 (148)           158.4
                
                PMartinez           2.93        2.76/3.08         4.545            147.5                149.1 (154)           138.5
                
                Clemens             3.12        3.11/3.14         4.566            145.4                144.8 (143)           161.1
                
                Sutter              2.83        3.07/2.59         3.818            147.4                144.5 (136)           112.8
                
                LSmith              3.03        3.15/2.89         4.131            142.9                140.1 (132)           114.3
                
                Brecheen*           2.92        2.97/2.83         4.009            141.6                139.4 (133)           120.8
                
                Santana*            3.20        3.04/3.39         4.605            135.8                135.8 (136)           120.1
                
                BGibson             2.91        3.08/2.76         3.801            137.7                135.0 (127)           137.7
                
                Hubbell*            2.98        2.91/3.04         4.143            136.2                134.6 (130)           134.5
                
                Ford*               2.75        2.58/2.94         3.960            134.6                134.2 (133)           130.1
                
                Seaver              2.86        2.90/2.83         3.860            136.3                133.9 (127)           145.0
                
                SCoveleski          2.89        2.83/2.94         3.973            135.1                133.0 (127)           128.2
                
                Koufax*             2.76        2.48/3.04         3.975            130.7                130.7 (131)           119.8
                
                Rijo                3.24        3.36/3.11         4.164            133.8                130.6 (121)           115.9
                
                DiDean              3.02        2.90/3.17         4.135            130.4                130.5 (131)           116.6
                
                Newhouser*          3.06        2.96/3.16         4.124            130.5                130.3 (130)           125.1
                
                RJohnson*           3.29        3.10/3.52         4.523            128.4                130.0 (135)           134.4
                
                Halladay            3.38        3.22/3.56         4.590            128.9                129.4 (131)           122.4
                
                GrMaddux            3.16        2.96/3.36         4.320            128.5                129.3 (132)           140.7
                
                Stieb               3.44        3.60/3.28         4.295            130.9                128.6 (122)           123.0
                
                DVance              3.24        3.24/3.24         4.158            128.3                127.4 (125)           122.5
                
                Smoltz              3.33        3.29/3.37         4.322            128.2                127.4 (125)           126.4
                
                Schilling           3.46        3.43/3.49         4.408            126.3                126.4 (127)           123.9
                
                JPalmer             2.86        2.59/3.13         3.912            124.9                124.9 (125)           127.2
                
                Mussina             3.68        3.59/3.78         4.723            124.9                124.4 (123)           124.1
                
                Marichal            2.89        2.74/3.03         3.773            124.5                124.1 (123)           123.4
                
                Warneke             3.20        3.15/3.26         4.081            125.1                123.5 (119)           118.1
                
                Eckersley           3.50        3.59/3.42         4.265            124.7                122.5 (116)           120.5
                
                Gomez*              3.35        2.90/3.88         4.658            120.0                121.2 (125)           114.7
                
                Oswalt              3.36        3.04/3.69         4.391            118.9                120.9 (127)           113.0
                
                Faber               3.15        2.94/3.36         4.071            121.1                120.5 (119)           123.2
                
                Glavine*            3.54        3.46/3.61         4.336            120.1                119.5 (118)           123.9
                
                Niekro              3.35        3.51/3.20         3.866            120.8                119.3 (115)           128.9
                
                Feller              3.25        2.85/3.70         4.378            118.3                119.2 (122)           120.4
                
                KBrown              3.28        2.74/3.86         4.500            116.5                119.1 (127)           117.2
                
                Spahn*              3.10        2.74/3.49         4.053            116.1                116.8 (119)           124.4
                
                Tiant               3.30        3.23/3.28         3.821            116.4                115.8 (114)           115.3
                
                FJenkins            3.34        3.34/3.33         3.835            115.1                115.0 (115)           118.7
                
                Drysdale            2.95        2.53/3.41         3.839            112.5                114.6 (121)           113.9
                
                Harder              3.80        3.68/3.92         4.450            113.5                113.3 (113)           112.6
                
                Carlton*            3.22        3.05/3.39         3.835            113.1                113.5 (115)           119.5
                
                Gooden              3.51        3.24/3.81         4.238            111.2                111.1 (111)           108.6
                
                Roberts             3.41        3.06/3.79         4.086            107.8                109.1 (113)           111.8
                
                JMorris             3.90        3.90/3.90         4.296            110.1                108.8 (105)           109.3
                
                NRyan               3.19        2.77/3.73         3.907            104.7                106.5 (112)           109.7
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                Gossage               3.01      2.79/3.22      3.126     3.853     123.2        126+          37.8
                
                Quisenberry           2.76      2.74/2.78      2.699     3.984     147.6        146+          37.3
                
                
                Hoffman               2.87      2.66/3.13      3.038     4.275     140.7        141+          35.0
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                Sain                  3.51      3.25/3.77      3.660     3.844     105.0        107+          11.2
                
                Hershiser             3.48      3.17/3.81      3.924     4.025     102.5        112+          8.48
                
                Wells*                4.13      3.75/4.54      4.407     4.420     100.2        108+          0.76
                
                Rowe                  3.87      3.50/4.33      4.203     4.211     100.1        110+          0.24
                
                DStewart              3.95      3.46/4.49      4.359     4.024     92.31        100+          ????
                
                
                
                
                Hoffman             2.87        2.66/3.13        2.995        4.275         142.7             142.2             112.7 (141)
                
                
                
                Wilhelm               2.52      2.41/2.63      2.553     3.687    144.4 (147)             
                
                
                
                
                WJohnson  ('14-'27)   2.47      2.12/2.87      2.786     3.570    128.1 (137)           93.7
                
                WJohnson                P R O J E C T E D - F U L L - C A R E E R      137.4 (147)          
                
                Alexander ('14-'30)   2.52      2.29/2.80      2.718     3.591    132.1 (138)          113.5
                HOME AS ROAD (PARK ADJ ERA+) = (ROAD REL ERA+ * 3) + RAW ERA+) ÷ 4

                WEIGHTED BY 3600 IP (FULLY ADJ ERA+) = PARK ADJ ERA- 100 * IP / 3600 + 100......example using Grove....153.4 HOME AS ROAD minus 100 = 53.4. His IP is 3940.7 / 3600 = 1.094. So 53.4 x 1.094 = 58.4 + 100 = 158.4

























                DNRA++ -- Meaning defense neutralized RA+, and the extra plus because it actually is seeing how many innings a pitcher pitched against EACH TEAM and each park to get a total adjustment of what the league would have done, and it also counts an adjustment for unearned runs allowed, which the pitcher still would be partly responsible for once his defensive support is neutralized.



                Code:
                (RA9opp - RA9def) * (PPFp / RA9)   1 - (100/DNRA++) * (IP/18)   WAA + (IP/18)      
                ..DNRA++                .WAA          .NRS WINS
                Code:
                Young               129.80               93.83          502.50
                WJohnson            141.93               97.09          425.67
                Alexander           133.91               73.03          361.37
                Clemens             141.34               79.90          353.05
                Niekro              116.75               43.08          343.30
                Nichols
                Perry
                Spahn
                Maddux
                Ryan
                Seaver
                Keefe
                Blyleven
                Sutton
                RRoberts
                Jenkins
                Grove
                Rjohnson
                Radbourn
                Glavine
                Rixey
                Wynn
                Gibson
                Lyons
                Faber
                Kaat
                Feller
                Tanana
                Grimes
                Hubbell
                Mussina
                Bunning
                Moyer
                DMartinez
                Smoltz
                Hoyt
                Schilling
                Marichal
                Tiant
                Drysdale
                Hough
                KBrown
                Morris
                PMartinez
                MBrown
                Pennock
                Coveleski
                Ford
                Cicotte
                Walsh
                Vance
                Whitehill
                Waddell
                Hershiser
                Cone
                Root
                Uhle
                CMays
                Zachary
                Bender
                White
                Gooden
                Warneke
                JBush
                Gomez
                Walberg
                Koufax
                Sherdel
                Oswalt
                Drabek
                Rowe
                FGarcia
                DizzyD
                Sain
                Rijo
                Nomo
                Earnshaw
                Ruth
                LWilliams
                Darling
                
                
                Blue
                Marquard
                Krogers
                Mcginnity
                DLeonard
                Finley
                Shawkey
                Palmer
                Quinn
                Zito
                Saberhagen
                Key
                Shocker
                KWood
                Lemon
                Caruthers
                Ehmke
                JSchmidt
























                Code:
                        
                ROAD RELATIVE SLUGGING EFFICIENCY                    
                
                     TB ÷ (AB - H)         HOME        ROAD    LG SPECIFIC  (ROAD SLGeff ÷ LG ROAD SLGeff)
                             SLGeff     SLGeff   -.SLGeff    ROAD SLGeff         ROAD REL SLGeff          LG OPS+         (HOME AS ROAD)
                Code:
                Ruth               1.048     1.068     1.029      .5058               2.034               94.00
                
                Gehrig             .9583     .9236     .9921      .5424               1.829               93.76
                
                TWilliams          .9667     1.020     .9143      .5018               1.822               93.57    
                
                JDiMaggio          .8569     .7983     .9154      .5131               1.784               93.46
                
                Hornsby            .8987     .9193     .8790      .5130               1.713               93.73
                
                Cobb ('14-'28)     .8123     .7821     .8221      .4923               1.669               94.06
                
                Aaron              .7978     .7993     .7964      .4995               1.594               93.56
                
                BaBonds            .8645     .8833     .8471      .5323               1.591               93.95
                
                Musial             .8354     .8770     .7967      .5035               1.582               93.13
                
                Mantle             .7932     .8191     .7690      .4900               1.569               93.38
                
                WMays              .7983     .8120     .7856      .5015               1.566               92.90
                
                Foxx               .9030     1.011     .8091      .5238               1.544               93.60
                
                Piazza             .7876     .7297     .8419      .5468               1.539               94.50 - C
                
                Mize               .8170     .8795     .7576      .4972               1.523               93.46
                
                Heilmann           .7905     .8071     .7751      .5093               1.521               93.94
                
                BTerry             .7678     .7265     .8097      .5334               1.517               93.57
                
                Ott                .7661     .7938     .7398      .5066               1.460               93.45
                
                Stargell           .7357     .7643     .7093      .4864               1.458               93.28
                
                McGwire            .7978     .8004     .7953      .5489               1.448               98.37
                
                EMathews           .6989     .6634     .7321      .5060               1.446               92.88
                
                Simmons            .8033     .8560     .7548      .5255               1.436               93.70
                
                Schmidt            .7198     .7419     .6995      .4888               1.431               93.61
                
                FRobinson          .7607     .8248     .7039      .4928               1.428               94.19
                
                MRamirez           .8511     .8569     .8455      .5955               1.419               99.26
                
                Greenberg          .8813     1.028     .7443      .5272               1.411               93.46
                
                McCovey            .7048     .7221     .6890      .4915               1.401               93.27
                
                VGuerrero          .8097     .8392     .7795      .5566               1.400               97.12
                
                Speaker ('14-'28)  .7706     .8608     .6897      .4923               1.400               94.06
                
                Goslin             .7304     .7008     .7580      .5417               1.399               93.88
                
                JGonzalez          .7956     .8090     .7833      .5621               1.393               99.88
                
                Snider             .7661     .8167     .7168      .5151               1.391               92.88
                
                ABelle             .7996     .8302     .7710      .5582               1.381               99.91
                
                Medwick            .7459     .8175     .6812      .4935               1.380               93.41
                
                Colavito           .6656     .6595     .6710      .4874               1.376               93.28
                
                HWilson            .7859     .8365     .7363      .5358               1.374               93.58
                
                FHoward            .6862     .7052     .6679      .4865               1.372               93.25
                
                Bagwell            .7683     .8040     .7345      .5404               1.359               94.13
                
                RJackson           .6640     .6459     .6814      .5021               1.357               98.00
                
                Kiner              .7597     .8333     .6888      .5096               1.351               93.10
                
                ARodriguez         .7966     .8287     .7660      .5685               1.347               99.90
                
                Wheat ('14-'27)    .6795     .7088     .6511      .4838               1.345               94.07
                
                Maris              .6432     .6341     .6514      .4848               1.343               93.25
                
                Dawson             .6692     .6686     .6697      .5011               1.336               94.33
                
                EMartinez          .7486     .7500     .7474      .5593               1.336               99.88
                
                Clemente           .6960     .7279     .6664      .4999               1.333               92.88
                
                McGriff            .7113     .7058     .7165      .5428               1.320               97.00
                
                Winfield           .6614     .6395     .6820      .5172               1.318               97.72
                
                Cash               .6702     .7115     .6308      .4796               1.315               94.00
                
                Delgado            .7580     .7681     .7482      .5697               1.313               98.17
                
                Gwynn              .6928     .7092     .6773      .5179               1.307               93.85
                
                Thome              .7658     .8001     .7318      .5598               1.307               98.90
                
                Bench              .6495     .6672     .6322      .4844               1.305               93.47 - C
                
                CJones             .7598     .8130     .7091      .5443               1.302               94.21
                
                Sosa               .7344     .7670     .7031      .5417               1.297               95.77
                
                Lombardi           .6626     .6861     .6398      .4931               1.297               93.41 - C
                
                BiWilliams         .6927     .7519     .6354      .4912               1.293               93.66
                
                Sheffield          .7256     .7485     .7038      .5444               1.292               96.54
                
                KWilliams          .7791     .9070     .6571      .5086               1.291               94.00
                
                Berra              .6740     .7071     .6434      .4985               1.290               93.57 - C
                
                FThomas            .7939     .8621     .7270      .5661               1.284               99.89
                
                Edmonds            .7364     .7514     .7215      .5625               1.282               96.52
                
                LWalker            .8224     .9767     .6849      .5346               1.281               94.11
                
                Klein              .7986     .9553     .6528      .5097               1.280               93.35
                
                EMurray            .6678     .6601     .6751      .5294               1.275               98.42
                
                Brett              .7010     .7431     .6614      .5196               1.272               100.0
                
                Canseco            .7009     .6962     .7052      .5543               1.272               99.94
                
                Carew              .6384     .6504     .6272      .4969               1.262               97.78
                
                Kingman            .6254     .6264     .6244      .4960               1.258               95.00
                
                EDavis             .6597     .6593     .6600      .5245               1.258               95.11
                
                Hodges             .6697     .6992     .6421      .5128               1.252               93.00
                
                Sisler             .7096     .7848     .6381      .5104               1.250               94.03
                
                Griffey Jr         .7508     .8136     .6941      .5552               1.250               97.70
                
                Averill            .7821     .8950     .6744      .5396               1.249               93.61
                
                KHernandez         .6195     .6269     .6126      .4906               1.248               94.05
                
                Garvey             .6319     .6528     .6118      .4911               1.245               93.52
                
                DParker            .6628     .7125     .6183      .4968               1.244               95.00
                
                Banks              .6882     .7566     .6226      .5056               1.231               92.89
                
                KBoyer             .6481     .6835     .6136      .5010               1.224               92.86
                
                JRice              .7152     .8022     .6349      .5201               1.220               100.0
                
                Buhner             .6614     .6466     .6762      .5565               1.215               99.93
                
                JLopez             .6888     .7117     .6673      .5504               1.212               95.33 - C
                
                Helton             .7885     .9273     .6573      .5442               1.207               94.23
                
                Tenace             .5651     .5447     .5839      .4858               1.201               95.20 - C
                
                DMurphy            .6382     .6938     .5864      .4925               1.190               93.72
                
                GCarter            .5948     .6107     .5799      .4891               1.185               93.73 - C
                
                Fisk               .6248     .6462     .6042      .5121               1.179               99.12 - C
                
                Ripken Jr          .6176     .5934     .6406      .5478               1.169               99.95
                
                Yastrzemski        .6463     .7249     .5734      .4906               1.168               96.34
                
                Larkin             .6301     .6481     .6121      .5283               1.158               93.94
                
                Campanella         .6902     .7992     .5973      .5174               1.154               93.10 - C
                
                Caminiti           .6135     .6198     .6073      .5269               1.152               94.13
                
                Rose               .5871     .6181     .5581      .4859               1.148               93.33
                
                Greenwell          .6642     .7121     .6189      .5417               1.142               100.0
                
                Sandberg           .6312     .7017     .5635      .5016               1.123               93.75
                
                JCarter            .6268     .6472     .6067      .5406               1.122               99.37
                
                Santo              .6417     .7422     .5461      .4903               1.113               93.33
                
                IRodriguez         .6596     .6961     .6250      .5628               1.110               99.23 - C
                
                Boggs              .6586     .7593     .5654      .5465               1.034               99.94


                Code:
                ROAD RELATIVE AB/RBI                    
                
                AB / RBI    AB / RBI    AB / RBI   LG SPECIFIC    (LG AB / RBI ÷ ROAD AB / RBI)*100)
                OVERALL     HOME    -.ROAD   ROAD AB / RBI         ROAD REL AB / RBI           LG OPS+         (HOME AS ROAD)
                Code:
                Ruth            3.793      3.799      3.794     10.131                 267.0                 94.00
                
                Gehrig          4.010      4.059      3.956      7.715                 195.0                 93.76
                
                TWilliams       4.190      4.027      4.369      8.414                 192.5                 93.57
                
                JDiMaggio       4.437      4.666      4.236      8.053                 190.1                 93.46
                
                Stargell        5.147      4.927      5.374      9.447                 175.7                 93.28
                
                McCovey         5.271      5.047      5.485      9.347                 170.4                 93.27
                
                Aaron           5.382      5.342      5.420      9.183                 169.4                 93.56
                
                BaBonds         4.933      4.854      5.009      8.422                 168.1                 93.95
                
                Hornsby         5.585      5.406      5.771      9.607                 166.4                 93.73
                
                Mantle          5.369      5.336      5.400      8.952                 165.7                 93.38
                
                Schmidt         5.236      4.872      5.625      9.318                 165.6                 93.61
                
                Bench           5.565      5.330      5.818      9.455                 162.5                 93.47 -C
                
                Mathews         5.875      6.138      5.645      9.048                 160.2                 92.88
                
                Piazza          5.176      5.263      5.101      8.141                 159.5                 94.50 -C
                
                Mize            4.818      4.286      5.492      8.664                 157.7                 93.46
                
                Mays            5.717      5.638      5.793      9.113                 157.3                 92.90
                
                RJackson        5.795      5.809      5.781      9.021                 156.0                 98.00
                
                Bagwell         5.099      4.916      5.289      8.236                 155.7                 94.13
                
                Berra           5.283      5.015      5.551      8.580                 154.5                 93.57 -C
                
                Greenberg       4.069      3.536      4.800      7.410                 154.3                 93.46
                
                FThomas         4.811      4.592      5.050      7.724                 152.9                 99.89
                
                Snider          5.372      5.068      5.713      8.677                 151.8                 92.88
                
                ASimmons        4.791      4.326      5.288      8.021                 151.6                 93.70
                
                Hodges          5.518      5.262      5.781      8.700                 150.4                 93.00
                
                Goslin          5.376      5.472      5.236      7.803                 149.0                 93.88
                
                FRobinson       5.522      4.926      6.207      9.244                 148.9                 94.19
                
                Thome           4.957      4.548      5.440      7.872                 144.7                 98.90
                
                McGriff         5.649      5.456      5.844      8.391                 143.5                 97.00
                
                Tenace          6.513      6.259      6.764      9.358                 138.3                 95.20 -C
                
                KHernandez      6.881      7.000      6.774      9.271                 136.8                 94.05
                
                JRice           5.668      5.081      6.394      8.621                 134.8                 100.0
                
                VGuerrero       5.451      5.027      5.973      7.963                 133.3                 97.12
                
                CJones          5.535      5.011      6.168      8.180                 132.6                 94.21
                
                Clemente        7.244      7.027      7.465      9.210                 123.3                 92.88
                
                Yastrzemski     6.501      5.595      7.733      9.182                 118.7                 96.34
                
                Boggs           9.053      8.627      9.542      8.050                 84.36                 99.94
                Code:
                ROAD RELATIVE BATTING AVG
                
                (PITCHERS REMOVED)                                           (PITCHERS REMOVED)
                BA        BA         BA     LG SPECIFIC    (LG BA ÷ ROAD BA)*100)                         rrBA+                  
                OVERALL     HOME    -.ROAD      ROAD BA         ROAD REL BA           LG OPS+         (HOME AS ROAD)
                Code:
                Cobb ('14-'28)  .365       .357       .372       .2741              135.7              94.06             134.3
                
                Gwynn           .338       .343       .334       .2622              127.3              93.85             127.7
                
                Hornsby         .358       .359       .358       .2795              128.0              93.73             127.7
                
                TWilliams       .344       .361       .328       .2652              123.6              93.57             123.7
                
                Musial          .331       .336       .326       .2631              123.9              93.13             123.3
                
                Gehrig          .340       .329       .351       .2843              123.4              93.76             122.2
                
                Ruth            .342       .346       .338       .2761              122.4              94.00             121.8
                
                JDiMaggio       .325       .315       .333       .2725              122.2              93.46             121.0
                
                Piazza          .308       .294       .320       .2659              120.3              94.50             119.3 - C
                
                VGuerrero       .318       .323       .312       .2639              118.2              97.12             118.0
                
                Aaron           .305       .303       .306       .2595              117.9              93.56             117.6
                
                Boggs           .328       .354       .302       .2618              115.3              99.94             117.0
                
                WMays           .302       .302       .301       .2603              115.6              92.90             115.2
                
                ASimmons        .334       .346       .323       .2797              115.4              93.70             115.2
                
                BTerry          .341       .330       .352       .3079              114.3              93.57             115.2
                
                KHernandez      .296       .299       .293       .2592              113.0              94.05             112.8
                
                BaBonds         .298       .301       .296       .2635              112.3              93.95             112.5
                
                Gehringer       .320       .323       .318       .2819              112.8              93.63             112.0
                
                Goslin          .316       .310       .321       .2849              112.6              93.88             111.6
                
                Foxx            .325       .345       .307       .2797              109.7              93.60             110.4
                
                RHenderson      .279       .274       .284       .2618              108.4              98.88             108.1
                
                Ripken Jr       .276       .267       .283       .2621              107.9              99.95             107.0
                
                LWalker         .313       .348       .278       .2638              105.3              94.11             106.7
                
                Stargell        .282       .290       .274       .2587              105.9              93.28             106.4
                
                EMathews        .271       .264       .277       .2600              106.5              92.88             105.9
                
                Greenberg       .313       .338       .289       .2770              104.3              93.46             105.5
                
                Thome           .276       .276       .277       .2636              105.0              98.90             104.2
                
                Sandberg        .285       .300       .269       .2601              103.4              93.75             104.1
                
                Schmidt         .267       .272       .263       .2591              101.5              93.61             101.1
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                BaBonds         .8645     .8833     .8471      .5323               1.591               93.95
                
                Mantle          .7932     .8191     .7690      .4900               1.569               93.38
                
                Mize            .8170     .8795     .7576      .4972               1.523               93.46
                
                Heilmann        .7905     .8071     .7751      .5093               1.521               93.94
                
                Ott             .7661     .7938     .7398      .5066               1.460               93.45
                
                
                
                McGwire         .7978     .8004     .7953      .5489               1.448               98.37
                
                
                
                FRobinson       .7607     .8248     .7039      .4928               1.428               94.19
                
                MRamirez        .8511     .8569     .8455      .5955               1.419               99.26
                
                
                
                McCovey         .7048     .7221     .6890      .4915               1.401               93.27
                
                JGonzalez       .7956     .8090     .7833      .5621               1.393               99.88
                
                Snider          .7661     .8167     .7168      .5151               1.391               92.88
                
                ABelle          .7996     .8302     .7710      .5582               1.381               99.91
                
                Medwick         .7459     .8175     .6812      .4935               1.380               93.41
                
                Colavito        .6656     .6595     .6710      .4874               1.376               93.28
                
                HWilson         .7859     .8365     .7363      .5358               1.374               93.58
                
                FHoward         .6862     .7052     .6679      .4865               1.372               93.25
                
                Bagwell         .7683     .8040     .7345      .5404               1.359               94.13
                
                RJackson        .6640     .6459     .6814      .5021               1.357               98.00
                
                Kiner           .7597     .8333     .6888      .5096               1.351               93.10
                
                ARodriguez      .7966     .8287     .7660      .5685               1.347               99.90
                
                Wheat ('14-'27) .6795     .7088     .6511      .4838               1.345               94.07
                
                Maris           .6432     .6341     .6514      .4848               1.343               93.25
                
                Dawson          .6692     .6686     .6697      .5011               1.336               94.33
                
                EMartinez       .7486     .7500     .7474      .5593               1.336               99.88
                
                Clemente        .6960     .7279     .6664      .4999               1.333               92.88
                
                McGriff         .7113     .7058     .7165      .5428               1.320               97.00
                
                Winfield        .6614     .6395     .6820      .5172               1.318               97.72
                
                Cash            .6702     .7115     .6308      .4796               1.315               94.00
                
                Delgado         .7580     .7681     .7482      .5697               1.313               98.17
                
                
                
                
                
                Bench           .6495     .6672     .6322      .4844               1.305               93.47 - C
                
                CJones          .7598     .8130     .7091      .5443               1.302               94.21
                
                Sosa            .7344     .7670     .7031      .5417               1.297               95.77
                
                Lombardi        .6626     .6861     .6398      .4931               1.297               93.41 - C
                
                BiWilliams      .6927     .7519     .6354      .4912               1.293               93.66
                
                Sheffield       .7256     .7485     .7038      .5444               1.292               96.54
                
                KWilliams       .7791     .9070     .6571      .5086               1.291               94.00
                
                Berra           .6740     .7071     .6434      .4985               1.290               93.57 - C
                
                FThomas         .7939     .8621     .7270      .5661               1.284               99.89
                
                Edmonds         .7364     .7514     .7215      .5625               1.282               96.52
                
                
                
                Klein           .7986     .9553     .6528      .5097               1.280               93.35
                
                EMurray         .6678     .6601     .6751      .5294               1.275               98.42
                
                Brett           .7010     .7431     .6614      .5196               1.272               100.0
                
                Canseco         .7009     .6962     .7052      .5543               1.272               99.94
                
                Carew           .6384     .6504     .6272      .4969               1.262               97.78
                
                Kingman         .6254     .6264     .6244      .4960               1.258               95.00
                
                EDavis          .6597     .6593     .6600      .5245               1.258               95.11
                
                Hodges          .6697     .6992     .6421      .5128               1.252               93.00
                
                Sisler          .7096     .7848     .6381      .5104               1.250               94.03
                
                Griffey Jr      .7508     .8136     .6941      .5552               1.250               97.70
                
                Averill         .7821     .8950     .6744      .5396               1.249               93.61
                
                Garvey          .6319     .6528     .6118      .4911               1.245               93.52
                
                DParker         .6628     .7125     .6183      .4968               1.244               95.00
                
                Banks           .6882     .7566     .6226      .5056               1.231               92.89
                
                KBoyer          .6481     .6835     .6136      .5010               1.224               92.86
                
                JRice           .7152     .8022     .6349      .5201               1.220               100.0
                
                Buhner          .6614     .6466     .6762      .5565               1.215               99.93
                
                JLopez          .6888     .7117     .6673      .5504               1.212               95.33 - C
                
                Helton          .7885     .9273     .6573      .5442               1.207               94.23
                
                Tenace          .5651     .5447     .5839      .4858               1.201               95.20 - C
                
                DMurphy         .6382     .6938     .5864      .4925               1.190               93.72
                
                GCarter         .5948     .6107     .5799      .4891               1.185               93.73 - C
                
                Fisk            .6248     .6462     .6042      .5121               1.179               99.12 - C
                
                
                
                Yastrzemski     .6463     .7249     .5734      .4906               1.168               96.34
                
                Larkin          .6301     .6481     .6121      .5283               1.158               93.94
                
                Campanella      .6902     .7992     .5973      .5174               1.154               93.10 - C
                
                Caminiti        .6135     .6198     .6073      .5269               1.152               94.13
                
                Rose            .5871     .6181     .5581      .4859               1.148               93.33
                
                Greenwell       .6642     .7121     .6189      .5417               1.142               100.0
                
                
                
                JCarter         .6268     .6472     .6067      .5406               1.122               99.37
                
                Santo           .6417     .7422     .5461      .4903               1.113               93.33
                
                IRodriguez      .6596     .6961     .6250      .5628               1.110               99.23 - C
                Last edited by Sultan_1895-1948; 08-12-2019, 04:08 PM.

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                • #53
                  OK 10 minutes.

                  What would you expect for him?
                  Last edited by brett; 05-05-2014, 08:18 AM.

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                  • #54
                    probably because it's being compared against other hitters it seems like every point difference in either direction carries a lot more weight then tOPS for instance.

                    Even though a guy might have huge home/road splits, and he got to play there 81 times a year, others throughout the league performed well too. So each point is significant.
                    Last edited by Sultan_1895-1948; 05-05-2014, 08:22 AM.

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                    • #55
                      don't know what his overall is offhand but I would expect at least a seven or eight point difference

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                      • #56
                        138 road so 146 home. Pretty big.

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                        • #57
                          Wow yeah about dead on.

                          I bet Walker goes 10+ lol

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                          • #58
                            I wonder though. More hitters throughout the league, and up and down modern lineups take a slugging approach; even middle infielders.

                            So that means it will be harder for modern guys to separate and for a gap to be created. In other words, Hack will show to be above the league avg further than if middle infielders were taking his approach.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
                              Wow yeah about dead on.

                              I bet Walker goes 10+ lol

                              Who, Larry Walker? I bet he is almost zero. Colorado had almost 50% more offense for VISITING players in some seasons. I am going to run just his years which were totally CO.
                              Last edited by brett; 05-05-2014, 09:20 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Good point.

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