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  • RootHouston
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    Sorry to revive such an old thread, but after about 11 years, I do have an answer to the original question. With a lengthy bit of research (you can't find this info in books, and it is mostly pieced from old newspapers), I would say that the Houston Buffs sort of split into two teams, which were the Houston Colt .45s (now the Astros) and the Oklahoma City 89ers (now the RedHawks). The Houston Sports Association had purchased the Buffs in January 1961 in order to obtain territorial rights for the big league club. In July, it was decided that the club would continue as the AAA affiliate in a move to Oklahoma City, and in September, the Buffs' last manager Harry Craft was announced as the first manager for the Colt .45s.

    Not exactly sure when they were officially added to the 40 man roster, but there were many 1961 Buffs players who played with the 1962 NL club. J.C. Hartman, Pidge Browne, Jim Campbell, Ron Davis, Dave Roberts, and Dave Giusti were all promoted. Aaron Pointer was promoted in 1963. Buffs GM Spec Richardson stayed in Houston, but as business manager until 1967 when he was promoted to GM again. Grady Hatton, who had briefly managed the Buffs before, became director of player personnel for the 1962 Colts, but then returned to manage the 89ers from '63-'65 before eventually becoming Astros manager in 1966. Broadcasting crew Loel Passe and Gene Elston moved from the Buffs to the Colts.

    The Astros owned the Oklahoma City club until 1970, when they sold the team to P.C. Dixon. In '73, the minor league agreement was finally ended, and the 89ers became an Indians affiliate. In 2011, the team again became the Astros AAA affiliate, where they remain today. Hope this clears things up.
    Last edited by RootHouston; 01-21-2014, 10:28 AM.

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  • bobby young
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    #11

    i think Jo Russell probably has all the rosters for the Buffs from the late 40's to the late 50's. if my old memory isnt too faded, i think the Buffs became the AAA Houston Rangers when Chicago bought the team. Ron Santo played for us and a few other soon to be Cubbies. Trivia question: who played for the AA and AAA Buffs and Colt 45's? Pidge Browne for sure. (Maybe Al Papai and Bobby Tiefenauer too) oops cant get the delete button to work:ebd

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  • bluezebra
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    I thought the houston buffs were a Texas nudist group.

    Bob

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  • Brownie31
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    Dizzy Dean

    The Houston Buffs' 20 year old phenom, Dizzy Dean, shakes
    hands with 43 year old Ray Caldwell of the Birmingham Barons
    just prior to their faceoff in the opener of the 1931 Dixie Series.
    Caldwell defeat Dean 1-0 before 20,000 fans at Birmingham's
    Rickwood Field. (Rickwood.com photo)

    Brownie31
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  • PJ-34
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    allright i will check into it and see what i can find

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  • brewcrew82
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    They ceased to exist in the 1960's, I don't see an "official" website anytime soon.

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  • PJ-34
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    are they getting a team web-site anytime?

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  • Mischa
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    Originally posted by joshua6021
    Hey everyone!!! I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get information about the buffs rosters. I am trying to compile a year to year list but can't find anything other than the google stuff. Can you Help????????:atthepc
    Marshall Wright's Texas League book should have it.

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  • joshua6021
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    Houston Buffs rosters

    Hey everyone!!! I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get information about the buffs rosters. I am trying to compile a year to year list but can't find anything other than the google stuff. Can you Help????????:atthepc

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  • lamearm
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    gale, go to http://pub45.ezboard.com/bastrosbaseball, and call out a guy named Buff.....If he can't get you the answer, nobody can. He is a walking history book when it comes to baseball in general and the Buffs in particular..He has just had a book published, "The Kid from St. Louis" about Jerry Witte, an old Buff player. Let me know how you make out...

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  • PopTop
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    Gale --- Sorry, but so far I've come up with nothing on the Buffs ownership question ... I no longer live in Houston, otherwise you've got me so interested I'd go down to the big library downtown and research it for you.

    Will keep looking ... In the meantime, hope to see you around Fever and the Astros Forum during the season

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  • gale
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    Re: Welcome to Fever, Gale.

    Originally posted by PopTop
    Not really much more I can add on this query ... Ol' Yeller and Ram Man have already provided a pair of excellent links on the subject ... The Buffs were the first professional baseball team I saw play, but I really don't remember much about that game ... Mom says I played under the stands a lot and came home with about gazillion skeeter bites.
    I'll never forget the first major league game I seen was between the New York Giants and the Cleveland Indians in Buff
    stadium and a young lefty for Cleveland was pitching name of Herb Score. I thought later on it was childhood impression that his speed was unbelievable but later on when he retired Hank Aaron was asked who was the fastest he had ever faced. Herb Score. But for a line drive......

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  • PopTop
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    I don't really know that answer, Gale ... I will put the question to a few Astro Heads and see what they say ... Could take a few days or so ... In the meantime, your best bet might be the main downtown branch of the Houston Library if you're anywhere near that locale ... Or just hang out here at Baseball Fever and visit some of the other Forums while I see what I can find out.

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  • gale
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    Buffs

    Originally posted by bbdata
    The Buffs left the Texas League after the 1958 season and were replaced by Tulsa as the Cardinals' affiliate. The Buffs continued in the American Association in 1959 with no affiliation and 1960 and 1961 as a Cub farm before joining the National League as an expansion team beginning in 1962.
    When the Buffs entered the AA in 1959 who owned them if they were not affliated. I assume in 1969-1961 that Cubs picked up the tab.

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  • PopTop
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    Welcome to Fever, Gale.

    Not really much more I can add on this query ... Ol' Yeller and Ram Man have already provided a pair of excellent links on the subject ... The Buffs were the first professional baseball team I saw play, but I really don't remember much about that game ... Mom says I played under the stands a lot and came home with about gazillion skeeter bites.

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