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    On Saturday night I was at a Carolina Mudcats game (AA Southern League) and the third base umpire was a woman. I've never seen a woman umpire at a professional game before. There was no information in the program about the umpires so now I'm curious. Does anyone know anything about her and how many female umps are there?
    Let's rid baseball of the pestilence of the DH now and forever!

  • #2
    It's good that there are ladies who want to be umps.

    I'd like to see the first woman player someday.

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    • #3
      I will weigh in.

      I wanted to be the first woman in baseball, but, the bias is still there.

      That being said, it is a long road to the majors, you have to earn your place.

      As to a female ump. I think our eyes and knowledge are well suited for the game.

      I coach a female High School softball team, and mostly male umps, but the ocassional female.

      I see no difference in their calls.

      Diana

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      • #4
        we saw a series in montgomery last summer (the biscuits' inaugural yr) w/ a female ump.
        Last edited by ez906; 04-14-2005, 09:28 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ez906
          we saw a series in montgomery last summer (the biscuits' inaugural yr) w/ a female ump.
          Same woman perhaps? The Mudcats play in the same league as the Biscuits.
          Let's rid baseball of the pestilence of the DH now and forever!

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          • #6
            Well it is about time!

            I too wanted to be the first female professional baseball player. Unfortunately... it had nothing to do with bias. I just wasn't very good!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kuparstwn
              Well it is about time!

              I too wanted to be the first female professional baseball player. Unfortunately... it had nothing to do with bias. I just wasn't very good!

              I will respond to this also.

              Kup, I was a Catcher. Little Leauge, fine, Kory Leauge fine, then came High School. As long is there is an "Equal Sports" (Title 9) for the sexes, we will not have a chance.

              Title 9 demanded womens sports, but, it is like the division of "Separate but Equal" clauses that let negros go to one school and whites to another.

              I had to play on the womens softball team, even though I was better than the same young man that played on the boys H.S. baseball team. Why, becuase the women have a team and the men have a team, that is equal.

              I say BS.

              If I am better, give me that shot.

              The Bias starts right there.

              BTW, you think I should ask the commish to start us up a ladies baseball forum here?

              Your friend in Baseball,

              Diana
              Last edited by DianasMoon82; 04-16-2005, 11:18 PM. Reason: grammer

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              • #8
                Pam Postema is probably the most famous woman umpire. I think she spent something like 13 years umping minor league games with 6 spent at AAA. Giamatti was suppose to be a big suporter of hers and it looked like she'd be moving on to the majors when he died. She was then fired in 89. She wrote a book called "You've Got to Have Balls to Make It in This League".

                As far as women in professional baseball goes, when Kendall Burnham played for the San Angelo Colts in 2003, all the stories said she was something like the 3rd or 4th woman to play against men professionally on a team with other men. Of course women have played professionally against each other and all women teams have played against other all male teams, but I didn't figure that was what you were talking about.

                As far as title 9 goes, I don't think it is like the Plessy decision. I think it comes down to competition and that there are a limited number of spots on a team. Although there are women like you who could compete against men, most women that played softball in my school wouldn't be able to make the baseball team. If all the teams are open to anyone, most women who currently play high school and college sports wouldn't be able to play. I wasn't able to play on our baseball team because I wasn't good enough, and even though I was a better softball player then a few of the women on our softball team I wasn't allowed to play because it was a women's team. I think that's fair.

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                • #9
                  You are missing a point. I was better, but title 9 said separate and equal, the H.S. boys team catcher sucked, I was better, but there was that rule.

                  Diana

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                  • #10
                    It's good to see that there are woman umpires, but I hate that they are in the minors. No one will know about them if they umpire for a AA team. I say bring a woman umpire up to the Majors!
                    2nd member of the Peter Moylan Fan Club

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Atlanta Braves Freak
                      It's good to see that there are woman umpires, but I hate that they are in the minors. No one will know about them if they umpire for a AA team. I say bring a woman umpire up to the Majors!
                      Sometime, there will be a woman umpire in the majors, but there needs to be more females involved in officiating in all sports at all levels. There are only some 75 MLB jobs and they take the best. By percentages, they must be more females to be willing to go through and pay their dues to work that level of ball. Probably it would take a sibling or offspring of a current major league umpire (a lot of nepotism seems to work the ranks of MLB umpires) that works her way up to the majors.

                      Basketball has the easiest forum to give more females the opprotunity to advance to that highest level, for there are many more female basketball officials at the high school and colligate levels and a couple have actually been hired by the NBA with mixed success.

                      So ladies, try officiating as an advocation and you may help pave the way to see female officials in major sports in the future.
                      http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...eline_1961.jpg

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DianasMoon82
                        You are missing a point. I was better, but title 9 said separate and equal, the H.S. boys team catcher sucked, I was better, but there was that rule.

                        Diana
                        I didn't miss your point. First off, title 9 doesn't say anything close to seperate but equal. It says educational institutions can't discriminate based on sex. But irregardless, you weren't allowed to play baseball, and the boys weren't allowed to play softball. I'd say that there is a good chance that if both teams were open to both sexes, you'd be one of a few femles on either team. Which is better, one woman being denied baseball or 11 being denied softball?

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                        • #13
                          I doubt that. It would be like a young man trying out for the pom-pom squad, I don't have a problem with that, mind you, however, you know the mindset of young adults...

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                          • #14
                            by the way, I have re-opened this in the ladies section just created by Sean, (again thanks)

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                            • #15
                              her name

                              if she is the same umpire as last year, her name is Ria Cortesio...i think it is her third year in the Southern League.
                              :radio

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