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Anyone know when those statistics are supposed to be published from the Hall of Fame study?
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Hopefully it will come out soon.
I don't know what we will see first - "official" NeL stats or the long awaited Guns & Roses Chinese Democracy album.
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The Negro leagues is badly in need of a statistical encyclopedia listing players, teams, year, postseason in much the same fashion as baseball-reference.com or retrosheet.org. A book will do but I don't see it being profitable and updated enough to get relatively current.
I don't really care if they only have player and team listed for certain seasons and that stats are incomplete. The study needs a foundation like the MacMillan gave MLB in 1969.
Another problem is definition of Negro leagues. At some point it has to encompasses more than just mere formal leagues.Comment
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The data collection has been 'complete' for several years, but apparently there is little market for such as massive, but specialized encyclopedia. Hopefully, an on-line encyclopedia will be allowed to incorporate the data soon.Comment
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Well, the data is far and away more complete and comprehensive than anything ever before gathered on the Negro Leagues.Originally posted by VIBaseball View PostComment
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According to a couple of the researchers I've spoken to, it's far from an ideal job and there is a lot more data out there that wasn't collected.Originally posted by KJOK View PostComment
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According to a couple of the researchers I've spoken to, it's far from an ideal job and there is a lot more data out there that wasn't collected.All I can say is, both may be true, but I do believe the second is true, which means it would represent a real advance on the subject. For that reason, I'd love to see it out yesterday. If we wait for the Negro Leagues to be perfectly documented, we'll all be pushing up daisies--and so will a couple of more generations.Well, the data is far and away more complete and comprehensive than anything ever before gathered on the Negro Leagues.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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From one of the researchers I understand that he compiled data beyond the scope of the project database for the few seasons he covered. He has published that and much more on the Negro Leagues at Agate Type.Originally posted by Mischa View Post
P.S. Bookmark the site.Comment
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How many copies of a book like that need to sell to make it profitable? I'm thinking I'd be willing to buy 3 to make it happen
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Negro League Stats Encyclopedia
It appears that this data may finally get online in a few months. When it's a bit more official, I'll post additional details.Comment
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Online is fine, but I want the book.Originally posted by KJOK View Post
It wouldn't be the first semi-obscure baseball reference book, and depending on how it was presented, it might have a larger audience than they think. Regardless, there's plenty of precedent for producing limited-audience books (academic presses do it all the time)... just set the price higher. I have several books that I paid $70+ for, that might have been $25 volumes in larger press runs.Comment
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Online is much better - considering all the data that still needs to be collected. A book here would be outdated before it went through its final editing.Comment
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How can there be data yet to be collected? These leagues have been wrapped up for a while now. Surely all the extant box scores have already been tracked down? I'm pretty sure nobody's going to find a trove of scoresheets. What else is there?Comment
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Not the case at all. Very time consuming research from many small papers both in the US and internationally. Not enough researchers, not enough time, not enough money.Originally posted by spark240 View PostComment
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