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  • Most pitching wins by decade?

    Just a question as to who were the top 10 pitchers in terms of most wins by decade?

    The only top 10 I know offhand is the 70's (from Talking Baseball: An Oral History of Baseball in the 1970's and this is the list:

    1. Jim Palmer - 186
    2. Gaylord Perry -184
    3. (tie) Steve Carlton & Tom Seaver - 178
    5. Catfish Hunter - 169
    6. Don Sutton - 166
    7. Phil Niekro - 164
    8. Ferguson Jenkins - 158
    9. (tie) Vida Blue and Nolan Ryan - 155

    I also recall that Jack Morris was the leading winner in the 80's with 162 wins, and Juan Marichal was the leading winner in the 60's with 191 wins.

    By calculations on Baseball-Almanac.com, I found the leading winner from 1900-1909 was Christy Matthewson with 236 wins (edging out Cy Young's 230 wins); Walter Johnson was the leading winner of 1910-1919 with 265 wins.

    What about the other decades of the 20th century and the top 10 pitchers? I'm pretty sure Greg Maddux was the winningest pitcher of the 90's . . .

  • #2
    Here is a BR link that shows to the 70's


    http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/128

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Old Sweater View Post
      Here is a BR link that shows to the 70's


      http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/128
      Thank you much for the link . . . and by using simple math . . I found out that the book I used for reference had Fergie Jenkins' win total way wrong . . .
      Last edited by Jason R. Maier; 09-09-2007, 03:30 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jason R. Maier View Post
        Thank you much for the link . . . and by using simple math . . I found out that the book I used for reference had Fergie Jenkins' win total way wrong . . .
        You're welcome. Couldn't find nothing that went back further with easy access that you can view.

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        • #5
          Soon Greg Maddux might catch Randy Johnson if he keeps getting hurt or wont pitch anymore.
          Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

          Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

          Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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          • #6
            1900's - Christy Mathewson
            1910's - Walter Johnson
            1920's - Burleigh Grimes
            1930's - Lefty Grove
            1940's - Hal Newhouser
            1950's - Warren Spahn
            1960's - Juan Marichal
            1970's - Jim Palmer
            1980's - Jack Morris
            1990's - Greg Maddux

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            • #7
              top 10's:

              1900


              Christy Mathewson236
              Cy Young 230
              Joe McGinnity218
              Jack Chesbro 192
              Vic Willis 188
              Eddie Plank 186
              Rube Waddell 183
              Sam Leever 166
              Jack Powell 160
              George Mullin 157

              1910

              Walter Johnson 265
              Pete Alexander208
              Eddie Cicotte 162
              Hippo Vaughn 156
              Slim Sallee 149
              Rube Marquard 144
              Eddie Plank 140
              Christy Mathewson137
              Claude Hendrix 135
              Hooks Dauss 125

              1920

              Burleigh Grimes 190
              Eppa Rixey 166
              Pete Alexander165
              Herb Pennock 162
              Waite Hoyt 161
              Urban Shocker 156
              Eddie Rommel 154
              Jesse Haines 153
              George Uhle 152
              Red Faber 149

              1930

              Lefty Grove 199
              Carl Hubbell 188
              Red Ruffing 175
              Wes Ferrell 170
              Lefty Gomez 165
              Mel Harder 158
              Larry French 156
              Tommy Bridges 150
              Paul Derringer 148
              Dizzy Dean 147

              1940

              Hal Newhouser170
              Bob Feller 137
              Rip Sewell 133
              Dizzy Trout 129
              Dutch Leonard 122
              Bucky Walters 122
              Mort Cooper 114
              Claude Passeau 111
              Kirby Higbe 105
              Harry Brecheen 105
              Bobo Newsom 105

              1950

              Warren Spahn 202
              Robin Roberts 199
              Early Wynn 188
              Billy Pierce 155
              Bob Lemon 150
              Mike Garcia 128
              Lew Burdette 126
              Don Newcombe126
              Whitey Ford 121
              Johnny Antonelli 116

              1960

              Juan Marichal 191
              Bob Gibson 164
              Don Drysdale 158
              Jim Bunning 150
              Jim Kaat 142
              Larry Jackson 141
              Sandy Koufax 137
              Jim Maloney 134
              Milt Pappas 131
              Camilo Pascual 127

              1970

              Jim Palmer 186
              Gaylord Perry 184
              Steve Carlton 178
              Tom Seaver 178
              Fergie Jenkins 178
              Catfish Hunter 169
              Don Sutton 166
              Phil Niekro 164
              Nolan Ryan 155
              Vida Blue 155


              1980

              Jack Morris 162
              Dave Stieb 140
              Bob Welch 137
              Fernando Valenzuela128
              Charlie Hough 128
              Bert Blyleven 123
              Nolan Ryan 122
              Jim Clancy 119
              Frank Viola 117
              Rick Sutcliffe 116

              1990


              Greg Maddux 176
              Tom Glavine 164
              Roger Clemens 152
              Randy Johnson 150
              Kevin Brown 143
              John Smoltz 143
              David Cone 141
              Mike Mussina 136
              Chuck Finley 135
              Scott Erickson 130

              2000 (through 2006)


              Randy Johnson 120
              Greg Maddux 112
              Tim Hudson 108
              Curt Schilling 108
              Andy Pettitte 105
              Bartolo Colon 104
              Mark Mulder 103
              Mike Mussina 103
              Tom Glavine 103
              Barry Zito 102

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              • #8
                Anyone else find it interesting that the top 6 in the 80's are not HOFers? Compare it to the 70's, where the top 9 are HOFers.

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                • #9
                  top 10's:


                  2000 (through 9/10/2007)


                  Randy Johnson 124
                  Greg Maddux 124
                  Tim Hudson 123
                  Andy Pettitte 118
                  Curt Schilling 116
                  Tom Glavine 116
                  Roy Oswalt 112
                  Mike Mussina 111
                  Barry Zito 111
                  Bartolo Colon 110
                  Last edited by geezer; 09-10-2007, 11:33 AM.
                  Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

                  Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

                  Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brooklyn View Post
                    top 10's:

                    1900


                    Christy Mathewson236
                    Cy Young 230
                    Joe McGinnity218
                    Jack Chesbro 192
                    Vic Willis 188
                    Eddie Plank 186
                    Rube Waddell 183
                    Sam Leever 166
                    Jack Powell 160
                    George Mullin 157

                    1910

                    Walter Johnson 265
                    Pete Alexander208
                    Eddie Cicotte 162
                    Hippo Vaughn 156
                    Slim Sallee 149
                    Rube Marquard 144
                    Eddie Plank 140
                    Christy Mathewson137
                    Claude Hendrix 135
                    Hooks Dauss 125

                    1920

                    Burleigh Grimes 190
                    Eppa Rixey 166
                    Pete Alexander165
                    Herb Pennock 162
                    Waite Hoyt 161
                    Urban Shocker 156
                    Eddie Rommel 154
                    Jesse Haines 153
                    George Uhle 152
                    Red Faber 149

                    1930

                    Lefty Grove 199
                    Carl Hubbell 188
                    Red Ruffing 175
                    Wes Ferrell 170
                    Lefty Gomez 165
                    Mel Harder 158
                    Larry French 156
                    Tommy Bridges 150
                    Paul Derringer 148
                    Dizzy Dean 147

                    1940

                    Hal Newhouser170
                    Bob Feller 137
                    Rip Sewell 133
                    Dizzy Trout 129
                    Dutch Leonard 122
                    Bucky Walters 122
                    Mort Cooper 114
                    Claude Passeau 111
                    Kirby Higbe 105
                    Harry Brecheen 105
                    Bobo Newsom 105

                    1950

                    Warren Spahn 202
                    Robin Roberts 199
                    Early Wynn 188
                    Billy Pierce 155
                    Bob Lemon 150
                    Mike Garcia 128
                    Lew Burdette 126
                    Don Newcombe126
                    Whitey Ford 121
                    Johnny Antonelli 116

                    1960

                    Juan Marichal 191
                    Bob Gibson 164
                    Don Drysdale 158
                    Jim Bunning 150
                    Jim Kaat 142
                    Larry Jackson 141
                    Sandy Koufax 137
                    Jim Maloney 134
                    Milt Pappas 131
                    Camilo Pascual 127

                    1970

                    Jim Palmer 186
                    Gaylord Perry 184
                    Steve Carlton 178
                    Tom Seaver 178
                    Fergie Jenkins 178
                    Catfish Hunter 169
                    Don Sutton 166
                    Phil Niekro 164
                    Nolan Ryan 155
                    Vida Blue 155


                    1980

                    Jack Morris 162
                    Dave Stieb 140
                    Bob Welch 137
                    Fernando Valenzuela128
                    Charlie Hough 128
                    Bert Blyleven 123
                    Nolan Ryan 122
                    Jim Clancy 119
                    Frank Viola 117
                    Rick Sutcliffe 116

                    1990


                    Greg Maddux 176
                    Tom Glavine 164
                    Roger Clemens 152
                    Randy Johnson 150
                    Kevin Brown 143
                    John Smoltz 143
                    David Cone 141
                    Mike Mussina 136
                    Chuck Finley 135
                    Scott Erickson 130

                    2000 (through 2006)


                    Randy Johnson 120
                    Greg Maddux 112
                    Tim Hudson 108
                    Curt Schilling 108
                    Andy Pettitte 105
                    Bartolo Colon 104
                    Mark Mulder 103
                    Mike Mussina 103
                    Tom Glavine 103
                    Barry Zito 102
                    Thanks for the top 10 lists . . .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brooklyn View Post
                      top 10's:

                      1900


                      Christy Mathewson236
                      Cy Young 230
                      Joe McGinnity218
                      Jack Chesbro 192
                      Vic Willis 188
                      Eddie Plank 186
                      Rube Waddell 183
                      Sam Leever 166
                      Jack Powell 160
                      George Mullin 157

                      1910

                      Walter Johnson 265
                      Pete Alexander208
                      Eddie Cicotte 162
                      Hippo Vaughn 156
                      Slim Sallee 149
                      Rube Marquard 144
                      Eddie Plank 140
                      Christy Mathewson137
                      Claude Hendrix 135
                      Hooks Dauss 125

                      1920

                      Burleigh Grimes 190
                      Eppa Rixey 166
                      Pete Alexander165
                      Herb Pennock 162
                      Waite Hoyt 161
                      Urban Shocker 156
                      Eddie Rommel 154
                      Jesse Haines 153
                      George Uhle 152
                      Red Faber 149

                      1930

                      Lefty Grove 199
                      Carl Hubbell 188
                      Red Ruffing 175
                      Wes Ferrell 170
                      Lefty Gomez 165
                      Mel Harder 158
                      Larry French 156
                      Tommy Bridges 150
                      Paul Derringer 148
                      Dizzy Dean 147

                      1940

                      Hal Newhouser170
                      Bob Feller 137
                      Rip Sewell 133
                      Dizzy Trout 129
                      Dutch Leonard 122
                      Bucky Walters 122
                      Mort Cooper 114
                      Claude Passeau 111
                      Kirby Higbe 105
                      Harry Brecheen 105
                      Bobo Newsom 105

                      1950

                      Warren Spahn 202
                      Robin Roberts 199
                      Early Wynn 188
                      Billy Pierce 155
                      Bob Lemon 150
                      Mike Garcia 128
                      Lew Burdette 126
                      Don Newcombe126
                      Whitey Ford 121
                      Johnny Antonelli 116

                      1960

                      Juan Marichal 191
                      Bob Gibson 164
                      Don Drysdale 158
                      Jim Bunning 150
                      Jim Kaat 142
                      Larry Jackson 141
                      Sandy Koufax 137
                      Jim Maloney 134
                      Milt Pappas 131
                      Camilo Pascual 127

                      1970

                      Jim Palmer 186
                      Gaylord Perry 184
                      Steve Carlton 178
                      Tom Seaver 178
                      Fergie Jenkins 178
                      Catfish Hunter 169
                      Don Sutton 166
                      Phil Niekro 164
                      Nolan Ryan 155
                      Vida Blue 155


                      1980

                      Jack Morris 162
                      Dave Stieb 140
                      Bob Welch 137
                      Fernando Valenzuela128
                      Charlie Hough 128
                      Bert Blyleven 123
                      Nolan Ryan 122
                      Jim Clancy 119
                      Frank Viola 117
                      Rick Sutcliffe 116

                      1990


                      Greg Maddux 176
                      Tom Glavine 164
                      Roger Clemens 152
                      Randy Johnson 150
                      Kevin Brown 143
                      John Smoltz 143
                      David Cone 141
                      Mike Mussina 136
                      Chuck Finley 135
                      Scott Erickson 130

                      2000 (through 2006)


                      Randy Johnson 120
                      Greg Maddux 112
                      Tim Hudson 108
                      Curt Schilling 108
                      Andy Pettitte 105
                      Bartolo Colon 104
                      Mark Mulder 103
                      Mike Mussina 103
                      Tom Glavine 103
                      Barry Zito 102

                      To take it a little further:

                      1870's:
                      Al Spalding... 253
                      Tommy Bond... 195
                      Bobby Mathews... 167
                      Dick McBride... 149
                      Candy Cummings... 145
                      George Zettlein... 129
                      George Bradley... 109
                      Terry Larkin... 89
                      Will White... 75
                      Jim Devlin... 72


                      1880's:
                      Tim Keefe... 291
                      Pud Galvin... 287
                      Mickey Welch... 285
                      Charley Radbourn... 271
                      Jim McCormick... 240
                      John Clarkson... 220
                      Tony Mullane... 203
                      Jim Whitney... 189
                      Charlie Buffinton... 181
                      Larry Corcoran... 177


                      1890's:
                      Kid Nichols... 297
                      Cy Young... 267
                      Amos Rusie... 233
                      Jack Stivetts... 191
                      Gus Weyhing... 174
                      Bill Hutchison... 166
                      Frank Killen... 161
                      Sadie McMahon... 159
                      Frank Dwyer... 156
                      Brickyard Kennedy... 154
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                      • #12
                        top 10's:


                        2000 (through 9/10/2007)


                        Randy Johnson 124
                        Greg Maddux 124
                        Tim Hudson 123
                        Andy Pettitte 118
                        Curt Schilling 116
                        Tom Glavine 116
                        Roy Oswalt 112
                        Mike Mussina 111
                        Barry Zito 111
                        Bartolo Colon 110
                        Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

                        Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

                        Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by geezer View Post
                          top 10's:


                          2000 (through 9/10/2007)


                          Randy Johnson 124
                          Greg Maddux 124
                          Tim Hudson 123
                          Andy Pettitte 118
                          Curt Schilling 116
                          Tom Glavine 116
                          Roy Oswalt 112
                          Mike Mussina 111
                          Barry Zito 111
                          Bartolo Colon 110
                          If Maddux can play for 3 more seasons and pitch well (that'll be tough, but who knows) he could win two decades. If that isn't impressive, I don't know what is...

                          Looking at the current top 10 list, Johnson won't be much of a thread, Pettitte, Schilling, Glavine, and Mussina are all old. Zito and Colon aren't winning many games this year. That leaves just Oswalt and Hudson. Hudson will be very difficult to fight off, but Oswalt is down by 14 wins - that's almost a whole season. If Oswalt wins 18 games in 2008-2010 (assuming the gap remains 14 through the end of this season) Maddux would need to average 13.3 wins/season over that stretch. Houston isn't that good and Maddux might be able to stay ahead of him. Hudson poses a huge threat though. I don't want to wish injury to Hudson, because that's pretty classless and I have nothing against him. Hopefully he'll be a hard luck pitcher the next 3 years and not get many wins....
                          Last edited by catbox_9; 09-12-2007, 12:22 AM.

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                          • #14
                            As of the 2007 season, Greg Maddux leads the 2000s with 126 wins, 2 more than Randy Johnson and Tim Hudson, It will be interesting if Maddux after the 2009 season, ends up leading the majors in wins during the 2000s decade, something extremely difficult but possible.
                            Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

                            Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

                            Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Old Sweater View Post
                              Here is a BR link that shows to the 70's


                              http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/128
                              I noticed that the source had OPS+ against for pitchers. Is that stat now available on baseball reference?

                              I noticed that Jack Morris gave up an OPS+ of 88 for the 80s. This is better than his relative ERA of 104. Actually, if you use his OPS+ to estimate runs his projected ERA+ would be 114 while it was actually 109 during that period. Of course it could simply be a problem with using OPS+ as a run estimator.

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