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    Let's see how much you guys know about rookies (no cheating!). A "rookie" is anyone who has just started MLB baseball unless, in his previous years, has exceeded

    -130 at-bats or 50 IP in prior MLB seasons
    -Accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list

    Let's get started. Which rookie:
    1) Holds the AL record for highest batting average? NL?
    AL: Joe Jackson (.408) NL: George Watkins (.373)
    2) Holds the AL record for highest slugging average? NL?
    AL: Mark McGwire (.618) NL: Ryan Braun (.634)
    3) Holds the AL record for most home runs? NL?
    AL; Mark McGwire (49) NL: Frank Robinson and Wally Berger (38)
    4) Holds the AL record for most hits? NL?
    AL: Ichiro (242) NL: Lloyd Waner (223)
    5) Holds the AL record for most stolen bases? NL?
    AL: Kenny Lofton (66) NL: Vince Coleman (110)
    6) Holds the AL record for most wins (since 1900)? NL?
    NL: Grover Cleveland Alexander (28)
    7) Holds the AL record for most pitching strikeouts? NL?
    AL: Herb Score (245) NL. Dwight Gooden (276)
    8) Holds the AL record for most saves? NL?
    AL: Neftali Feliz (40) NL: Craig Kimbrel (46)
    9) Who are the only two rookies to win a batting title (since 1900)?
    Tony Oliva (1964) and Ichiro (2001)
    10) Which pitcher has the lowest ERA since 2000 in his FIRST ever season? Minimum 100 IP and 60% of games started
    Jered Weaver (2.56)
    Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 03-09-2012, 03:57 PM.
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
    Let's see how much you guys know about rookies (no cheating!). A "rookie" is anyone who has just started MLB baseball unless, in his previous years, has exceeded

    -130 at-bats or 50 IP in prior MLB seasons
    -Accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list

    Let's get started. Which rookie:
    1) Holds the AL record for highest batting average? NL?
    2) Holds the AL record for highest slugging average? NL?
    3) Holds the AL record for most home runs? NL?
    4) Holds the AL record for most hits? NL?
    5) Holds the AL record for most stolen bases? NL?
    6) Holds the AL record for most wins? NL?
    7) Holds the AL record for most pitching strikeouts? NL?
    8) Holds the AL record for most saves? NL?
    9) Who are the only two rookies to win a batting title (since 1900)?
    10) Which pitcher has the lowest ERA since 2000 in his FIRST ever season? Minimum 100 IP and 60% of games started
    for #2, I thought I heard Ryan Braun broke the rookie slugging record in 2007, but I don't think he qualified for the batting title. For the AL slugging record, I'll guess Mark McGwire.

    3) is definitely McGwire in the AL
    4) Ichiro and ?
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    • #3
      I believe #3 for the NL is Frank Robinson & Wally Berger.

      I suspect on #1 and #2 you will need some statement of minimum PA's.
      Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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      • #4
        #9 is Ichiro and Tony Oliva.
        Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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        • #5
          For highest batting average, Joe Jackson hit over .400 his first full year. I know he played a few games in at least 2 seasons before that. Anyway, I'll guess Joe Jackson for AL BA.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
            for #2, I thought I heard Ryan Braun broke the rookie slugging record in 2007, but I don't think he qualified for the batting title. For the AL slugging record, I'll guess Mark McGwire.
            Yes to McGwire. I believe Braun does qualify. While he didn't have at the required amount of PA, BBRef still has him as the 2007 NL leader because I believe if you add the necessary amount of hitless at-bats, he still has the highest slugging percentage.
            Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
            I suspect on #1 and #2 you will need some statement of minimum PA's.
            My source says nothing about it, but it seems that you need to qualify for a batting title (or add the necessary amount of hitless at-bats).

            Originally posted by BigRon View Post
            For highest batting average, Joe Jackson hit over .400 his first full year. I know he played a few games in at least 2 seasons before that. Anyway, I'll guess Joe Jackson for AL BA.
            Jackson is correct because he only had 115 at-bats in his seasons prior to 1911.
            Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 03-05-2012, 03:20 PM.
            "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post

              Here's where I'm confused. My source (which I've found other mistakes) says it's Joe Jackson with .408. However, he doesn't follow the current qualifications of a rookie set in 1971 because he had more than 50 at-bats in his prior seasons. I believe my source lists him because he was considered a rookie at the time he did it (Baseball Almanac and Wikipedia also say Jackson had the record). I'm putting an asterisk for now, but if anyone knows the player using the 1971 definition, I will add him too.
              Ty, read your rules in your first post- it says 130 AB, not 50. I don't know if that is the correct rule, but if it is, Jackson would qualify.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                Ty, read your rules in your first post- it says 130 AB, not 50. I don't know if that is the correct rule, but if it is, Jackson would qualify.
                I realized this the minute after I posted. A mental lapse. Jackson is correct.
                "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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                • #9
                  It's gotta be Vince Coleman for NL stolen bases. It is mind boggling that he stole over 100 bases in each of his first 3 seasons.
                  My top 10 players:

                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Barry Bonds
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Ted Williams
                  5. Willie Mays
                  6. Alex Rodriguez
                  7. Hank Aaron
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Lou Gehrig
                  10. Mickey Mantle

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                  • #10
                    NL avg leader is George Watkins

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                    • #11
                      Curses. Both are correct. Looks like #10 is still my trump card.

                      Unless one of you cheat using the play index...
                      "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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                      • #12
                        Herb Score held the AL- and I believe ML- strikeout record for rookie pitchers for many years. I'll guess he's still the man.

                        I'll also take a flyer on rookie wins- I'm pretty sure Grover Cleveland Alexander won around 30 as a rookie, so he'll be my NL guess.
                        Last edited by BigRon; 03-06-2012, 07:14 AM.

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                        • #13
                          #8 AL = Bobby Thigpen NL = Craig Kimbrell
                          WAR? Prove it!

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                          • #14
                            #5 AL = John Cangelosi?
                            WAR? Prove it!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                              Herb Score held the AL- and I believe ML- strikeout record for rookie pitchers for many years. I'll guess he's still the man.I'll also take a flyer on rookie wins- I'm pretty sure Grover Cleveland Alexander won around 30 as a rookie, so he'll be my NL guess.
                              Score is correct but the NL guy now has the ML rookie strikeout record. Alexander is also correct (since 1900); one of the few I already knew going into this.

                              Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                              #8 AL = Bobby Thigpen NL = Craig Kimbrell
                              Kimbrel is correct

                              Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                              #5 AL = John Cangelosi?
                              Nope
                              "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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