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This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

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  • #46
    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
    Arlie Latham
    Arlie Latham is incorrect.
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    • #47
      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
      Arlie Latham is incorrect.
      But he does qualify under the 1-0 system.

      Edit: Also, you have Nick Altrock's last season as 1924, but it's actually 1933. He's a five-decade player like Minoso.
      Last edited by Nerdlinger; 04-26-2012, 07:44 AM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
        According to the calendar we use they do. Decades end with a zero.
        http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...-Decades/page2

        a: a period of 10 years

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        • #49
          Originally posted by DJC View Post
          But he does qualify under the 1-0 system.

          Edit: Also, you have Nick Altrock's last season as 1924, but it's actually 1933. He's a five-decade player like Minoso.
          That's weird, B-Ref doesn't show any appearances for Altrock in 1933...however it says Final Game: October 1, 1933. What gives?
          My top 10 players:

          1. Babe Ruth
          2. Barry Bonds
          3. Ty Cobb
          4. Ted Williams
          5. Willie Mays
          6. Alex Rodriguez
          7. Hank Aaron
          8. Honus Wagner
          9. Lou Gehrig
          10. Mickey Mantle

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          • #50
            Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
            That's weird, B-Ref doesn't show any appearances for Altrock in 1933...however it says Final Game: October 1, 1933. What gives?
            Look under his batting statistics. You'll see it.
            Baseball Junk Drawer

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            • #51
              Originally posted by ian2813 View Post
              Look under his batting statistics. You'll see it.
              Thanks, I see it now. Does anyone know the story behind that? Kinda weird for a pitcher who was retired for 9 years to get one PA in as a 54 year old and than one more PA two years later, as a 56 year old.
              My top 10 players:

              1. Babe Ruth
              2. Barry Bonds
              3. Ty Cobb
              4. Ted Williams
              5. Willie Mays
              6. Alex Rodriguez
              7. Hank Aaron
              8. Honus Wagner
              9. Lou Gehrig
              10. Mickey Mantle

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                Thanks, I see it now. Does anyone know the story behind that? Kinda weird for a pitcher who was retired for 9 years to get one PA in as a 54 year old and than one more PA two years later, as a 56 year old.
                Well, he was a coach for the Senators from 1912-53. Maybe he was just filling in on a day the team was short-handed.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                  Thanks, I see it now. Does anyone know the story behind that? Kinda weird for a pitcher who was retired for 9 years to get one PA in as a 54 year old and than one more PA two years later, as a 56 year old.
                  It may have been done to qualify him for a pension. It was common in the 50s and 60s for a player to be added to a team's roster for a short period of time so that the player would qualify under the players pension program.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Macker View Post
                    A decade is simply a period of 10 years. Since the officially designated major leagues (by MLB) begin with the National League in 1876, one could say the decades should run 1876-1885, 1886-1895, etc. If including the National Association, one might prefer 1871-80, 1881-90, etc. It is arbitrary, but when talking of the 30s, 40s, etc., then 1930-39, and 1940-49 are correct, and, the 50s do not start with 1951. The 50s are 1950-59. Just because 1950 is the end of the 195th decade AD, that doesn't make it part of the 1940s. The 1960 Pirates did not win the World Series during the 1950s just as Ron Santo and Juan Marichal did not debut in the 50s.
                    Slice it any way you want, but when one counts to ten, one starts at one, not zero. Yes, we as humans like to group things into neat little piles, and, as a fan of both sports and music, I'm quite used to and accepting of the 0-9 system of decadal groupings, but, as DJC and I have accurately pointed out, the 21st Century did not begin until January 1, 2001.

                    This is part of a debate I was trying to avoid. I hope it goes no further, especially since it's been clarified several times now.
                    "And their chances of getting back into this ballgame are growing dimmer by the batter."


                    Put it in the books.

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                    • #55
                      Just to clarify, this isn't about when the 21st Century began. Anyway, regarding Altrock, his appearances were before the pension program. It used to be fairly common for end-of-season games to include some nonsense appearances by coaches or feature players playing out of position. Some of Babe Ruth's Yankee pitching appearances were just publicity stunts to bring in some curious fans to meaningless games.

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                      • #56
                        So, can I name the last two unguessed players now? I'd also like to offer a counter-trivia question, if possible.
                        *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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                        • #57
                          Mike Morgan allowed Yaz 400th homerun in 1979, and pitched for the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
                          Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

                          Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

                          Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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                          • #58
                            Satchel Paige definitely played pro-ball in 4 decades. Whether or not you count Negro League time, I don't know.
                            "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DJC View Post
                              So, can I name the last two unguessed players now? I'd also like to offer a counter-trivia question, if possible.
                              Sure. Go ahead.
                              My top 10 players:

                              1. Babe Ruth
                              2. Barry Bonds
                              3. Ty Cobb
                              4. Ted Williams
                              5. Willie Mays
                              6. Alex Rodriguez
                              7. Hank Aaron
                              8. Honus Wagner
                              9. Lou Gehrig
                              10. Mickey Mantle

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                                Sure. Go ahead.
                                Kid Gleason (1888-1912) and Jack O'Connor (1887-1910).

                                As mentioned earlier, there are 6 players not among the 29 listed in the OP who have played in 4 decades but only under the 1-0 system. Three have already been guessed, but three remain. Who are they? No looksie-upsies.

                                1. Arlie Latham (1880-1909)
                                2. Cy Young (1890-1911)
                                3. Elmer Valo (1940-1961)
                                4.
                                5.
                                6.

                                Also as mentioned earlier, there are 5 players who spent 20 seasons in the majors but played in just 2 decades. Two of these qualify under the 0-9 system, and 3 qualify under the 1-0 system. One of them has already been guessed. Name the other four. Again, no looksie-upsies. (Hint: I'm counting seasons in the National Association.)

                                1. George Davis (1890-1909)
                                2. Deacon White (1871-1890)
                                3.
                                4.
                                5.
                                Last edited by Nerdlinger; 04-28-2012, 09:17 PM.
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