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  • Which year's rookie pitchers went on to post the most career wins?

    I am not sure if someone has the means to research this, but is there a way to rack up all the career wins for pitchers who were rookies in a given season? I was looking at 1984 where we have:
    Clemens-354
    Gooden-194
    Saberhagen-167
    Gubicza-132
    Langston-179
    Darling-136
    Fernandez-114
    Danny Jackson-112
    Jimmy Key-186
    who all won at least 100 career games. Can anyone find an official rookie crop with 9 future 100 game winners?

    In addition
    Rasmussen-91

    and Cocanower, Nipper, Mason and a few other rookies racked up some wins.

  • #2
    Originally posted by brett View Post
    I am not sure if someone has the means to research this, but is there a way to rack up all the career wins for pitchers who were rookies in a given season? I was looking at 1984 where we have:
    Clemens-354
    Gooden-194
    Saberhagen-167
    Gubicza-132
    Langston-179
    Darling-136
    Fernandez-114
    Danny Jackson-112
    Jimmy Key-186
    who all won at least 100 career games. Can anyone find an official rookie crop with 9 future 100 game winners?
    Not the exact same set as 1984 "rookies," but the 1984 Top 21 "debuts" are like this :

    Code:
                             
    Rk             Player   W
    1       Roger Clemens 354
    2       Dwight Gooden 194
    3           Jimmy Key 186
    4       Mark Langston 179
    5     Bret Saberhagen 167
    6        Mark Gubicza 132
    7        Tom Browning 123
    8           Jose Rijo 116
    9          Zane Smith 100
    10        John Franco  90
    11       Jim Deshaies  84
    12      Mike Bielecki  70
    13        Joe Hesketh  60
    14         Steve Farr  48
    15       Ron Robinson  48
    16      Jeff Robinson  46
    17          Jay Tibbs  39
    18     Lee Guetterman  38
    19         Ken Howell  38
    20   Calvin Schiraldi  32
    21       Ricky Horton  32
    The total wins for all 1984 debuts is something like 2400+.

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    • #3
      The 1986 debuts will have more wins

      Code:
                               
      Rk             Player   W
      1         Greg Maddux 355
      2         Jamie Moyer 269
      3         Kevin Brown 211
      4        Chuck Finley 200
      5          David Cone 194
      6         Doug Drabek 155
      7          Bobby Witt 142
      8         John Smiley 126
      9    Terry Mulholland 124
      10      Greg Swindell 123
      11      Bob Tewksbury 110
      12        Chris Bosio  94
      13         Eric Plunk  72
      14         Dan Plesac  65
      15    Michael Jackson  62
      16   Paul Assenmacher  61
      17       Bruce Ruffin  60
      18     Scott Bankhead  57
      19        Kelly Downs  57
      20       Jeff Parrett  56

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      • #4
        If someone has the inclination try 1962-69, when Perry, Niekro(s), Carlton, Sutton, Seaver, Blyleven, John, Koosman woudl have broke in. Otherwise that looks hard to top.

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        • #5
          1965 is impressive, especially considering expansion only has a minimal effect in the mid-60s.

          Code:
                                 
          Rk           Player   W
          1     Steve Carlton 329
          2    Fergie Jenkins 284
          3        Jim Palmer 268
          4    Catfish Hunter 224
          5      Ken Holtzman 174
          6       Jim Lonborg 157
          7          Rudy May 152
          8       Joe Coleman 142
          9     Nelson Briles 129
          10       Bill Hands 111
          11       Tug McGraw  96
          12      John Hiller  87
          13     Steve Hargan  87
          14    Grant Jackson  86
          15      Jim Merritt  81
          16    Paul Lindblad  68
          17   Jim McGlothlin  67
          18   Darold Knowles  66
          19    Skip Lockwood  57
          20       Bob Locker  57

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          • #6
            1966 debuts. #1-4... :ooo:
            Code:
                                 
            Rk         Player   W
            1      Nolan Ryan 324
            2      Don Sutton 324
            3        Ron Reed 146
            4    Stan Bahnsen 146

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            • #7
              Originally posted by brett View Post
              Can anyone find an official rookie crop with 9 future 100 game winners?
              1911 and 1912 had 9 each. In 1912, 5 were 215+.

              http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...ts.shtml#pitch
              http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...ts.shtml#pitch

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              • #8
                Going by debuts, not technically "rookies":

                Pitchers who debuted in 1984 ended up with 2,533 total wins. Debut years that beat that:


                1986 (3,328 wins)
                --100 game winners (11): Greg Maddux (355), Jamie Moyer (269), Kevin Brown (211), Chuck Finley (200), David Cone (194), Doug Drabek (155), Bobby Witt (142), John Smiley (126), Terry Mulholland (124), Greg Swindell (123), Bob Tewksbury (110)

                1995 (3,311 wins)
                --100 game winners (8): Andy Pettitte (243), Brad Radke (148), Jeff Suppan (140), Jason Schmidt (130), Estaban Loaiza (126), Hideo Nomo (123), Paul Byrd (109), Shawn Estes (101)

                1912 (3,233 wins)
                --100 game winners (9): Eppa Rixey (266), Herb Pennock (241), Hooks Dauss (223), Wilbur Cooper (216), Stan Coveleski (215), Bullet Joe Bush (196), Bill Doak (169), Jim Bagby (127), Jeff Tesreau (115).

                1965 (3,060 wins)
                --100 game winners (10): Steve Carlton (329), Fergie Jenkins (284), Jim Palmer (268), Catfish Hunter (224), Ken Holtzman (174), Jim Lonborg (157), Rudy May (152), Joe Coleman (142), Nelson Briles (129), Bill Hands (111)

                1999 (2,850 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Tim Hudson (185), Freddy Garcia (145), Ted Lilly (130), Randy Wolf (129), AJ Burnett (126), Vicente Padilla (105), Jeff Weaver (104)

                1991 (2,709 wins)
                --100 game winners (5): Mike Mussina (270), Darryl Kile (133), Pat Hentgen (131), Denny Neagle (124), Jeff Fassero (121)

                Years with 9 or more 100+ game winners, with total not exceeding 2,533 wins, sorted by wins:

                1911 (2,160 wins)
                --100 game winners (9): Pete Alexander (373), Jeff Pfeffer (158), Claude Hendrix (144), Fred Toney (139), George Mogridge (132), Clarence Mitchell (125), Larry Cheney (116), Earl Hamilton (115) and Sherry Smith (114). Total: 2,160 wins.

                1923 (2,125 wins)
                --100 game winners (10): Ted Lyons (260), Earl Whitehill (218), Charlie Root (201), Guy Bush (176), Red Lucas (157), Rube Walberg (155), Firpo Marberry (148), Larry Benton (127), Bob Smith (106), George Pipgras (102).

                2000 (2,054 wins)
                --100 game winners (9): Mark Buehrle (166), Barry Zito (150), Johan Santana (136), Jon Garland (132), Brad Penny (119), Bronson Arroyo (114), Jason Marquis (106), Joel Pineiro (104), Mark Mulder (103)

                1971 (1,876 wins)
                --100 game winners (10): Doyle Alexander (194), Burt Hooton (151), Jim Slaton (151), Mike Caldwell (137), Jon Matlack (125), Ross Grimsley (124), Bruce Kison (115), JR Richard (107), Steve Stone (107), Jim Barr (101)

                Years with 2,000+ wins and less than nine 100 game winners, sorted by wins:

                1988 (2,477 wins)
                --100 game winners (8): Randy Johnson (303), Curt Schilling (216), John Smoltz (213), Tom Gordon (138), Todd Stottlemyre (138), Ramon Martinez (135), Ken Hill (117), Pete Harnisch (111)

                1884 (2,421 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Bob Caruthers (218), Adonis Terry (197), Bill Hutchinson (182), Ed Morris (171), Dave Foutz (147), Pretzels Getzein (145)

                1993 (2,347 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Mike Hampton (148), Aaron Sele (148), Steve Trachsel (143), Woody Williams (132), Kirk Reuter (130), Darren Oliver (112)

                1969 (2,314 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Jerry Reuss (220), Vida Blue (209), Steve Renko (134), Bill Lee (119), Dick Drago (108), Reggie Cleveland (105), Dave Roberts (103)

                1977 (2,269 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Jack Morris (254), Jim Clancy (140), Floyd Bannister (134), Ed Whitson (126), Bob Stanley (115), Rick Honeycutt (109), Mario Soto (100)

                1978 (2,259 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Bob Welch (211), Danny Darwin (171), Dave Stewart (168), Scott Sanderson (163), Mike Morgan (141), Shane Rawley (111), Don Robinson (109)

                1966 (2,210 wins)
                --100 game winners (8): Nolan Ryan (324), Don Sutton (324), Stan Bahnsen (146), Ron Reed (146), Woodie Fryman (141), Fritz Peterson (133), Don Wilson (104), Clyde Wright (100)

                1987 (2,187 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Tom Glavine (305), David Wells (239), John Burkett (166), Al Leiter (162), Tim Belcher (146), Jack McDowell (127)

                2001 (2,154 wins)
                --100 game winners (5): CC Sabathia (183), Roy Oswalt (159), Josh Beckett (129), Carlos Zambrano (129), Kyle Lohse (107)

                1998 (2,154 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Roy Halladay (192), Javier Vazquez (165), Ryan Dempster (113), Russ Ortiz (113), Carl Pavano (108), Jarrod Washburn (107)

                1997 (2,150 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Derek Lowe (173), Bartolo Colon (166), Kevin Millwood (166), Chris Carpenter (144), Matt Morris (121), Kelvim Escobar (101), Brett Tomko (100)

                1992 (2,103 wins)
                --100 game winners (5): Pedro Martinez (219), Tim Wakefield (200), Pedro Astacio (129), Shane Reynolds (114), Miguel Batista (102)

                1964 (2,078 wins)
                --100 game winners (8): Phil Niekro (318), Luis Tiant (229), Rick Wise (188), Mel Stottlemyre (164), Sonny Siebert (140), Larry Dierker (139), Bill Singer (118), Steve Blass (103).

                1989 (2,068 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Kenny Rogers (219), Kevin Appier (169), Andy Benes (155), Kevin Tapani (143), Jaime Navarro (116), Wilson Alvarez (102)

                1967 (2,065 wins)
                --100 game winners (6): Tom Seaver (311), Jerry Koosman (222), Joe Niekro (221), Mike Torrez (185), Pat Dobson (122), Gary Nolan (110)

                1959 (2,018 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Jim Kaat (283), Bob Gibson (251), Jim Perry (215), Mike Cuellar (185), Chris Short (135), Gary Peters (124), Earl Wilson (121)

                1979 (2,006 wins)
                --100 game winners (7): Dave Stieb (176), Bill Gullickson (162), Charlie Leibrandt (140), Dan Petry (125), Mike Scott (124), John Tudor (117), Richard Dotson (111)
                Last edited by Cowtipper; 06-08-2012, 07:02 PM.

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