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  • Nerdlinger
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    I did some database checking, and among players who never played for the Yankees, Eddie Collins holds the record for playing the most seasons on World Series winning teams with 6 (regardless of whether or not he actually played in the World Series). Barry, Maxvill, and McInnis are indeed the only other players with at least 5.

    If you consider only guys who actually play in the World Series, there are 10 players tied for the record of 4 seasons. Barry, Collins, and McInnis are three of them (not Maxvill, though). Frisch, Tenace, and Timlin are three others who have already been mentioned here. Can anyone guess the last four without cheating?

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  • Macker
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    Originally posted by BigRon View Post
    I don't think it matters what BB-REF says in this case.
    Besides, the wording above the list isn't even accurate:
    "Please note that this does not measure how many times the player was on the roster during the WS of a World Series winner. It only measures if they appeared for that team at some point and then if they appeared in the WS that year for the winning team."

    Plus, the link on the leaderboard to get you to the list says "Most Championship Rings," and they didn't always get rings. Some years they had a choice of items and selected watch fobs, medallions, or other things.

    Anyway, George Wright has five championships.

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  • BigRon
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    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    I’m well aware of all of this.

    Baseball Reference lists all 3 with 5 rings in their championship count. However, they are all actually more legit than Collins and his 9 AB in 1929 and 3 AB in 1930. I don’t see how one can’t count Barry and McInnis for 5? Counting Maxvill in 73 is a stretch, but he did play on that team. Maxvill did bat 9 times in the 72 ALCS.
    I don't think it matters what BB-REF says in this case. Maxvill DID NOT play in the 72 World Series- perhaps he was on the roster, so IF he was he could be credited with being part of the team- not playing in the WS. however.

    BUT, in 1973, as Macker said, Maxvill was traded away in mid-season. He was not a member of the team at playoff time. THe As players MAY have decided to give him a partial WS share- I don't know this- but this doesn't make him a member of the World Series winning team.

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  • Macker
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    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    I’m well aware of all of this.
    It sure doesn't seem like it.

    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    Baseball Reference lists all 3 with 5 rings in their championship count.
    Which means nothing. Their Oracle / teammate counter includes players who weren't even on the team at the same time (including the players they were traded for.) Their list is ridiculous. Including 1973 for Maxvill is absurd.

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  • JR Hart
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    Originally posted by Macker View Post
    Though Maxvill played for the A's 1972-75, he was not with the A's during the 1973 post-season. He went to the Pirates in midseason of 1973 & returned during the 1974 season.

    Jack Barry missed the final 35 games of the 1916 season due to injury and was not on the post-season roster.

    Though McInnnis was with the Athletics for the entire 1910 season, he played only 38 games and did not appear in the World Series.
    Originally posted by BigRon View Post
    Right- Maxvill played on winning WS teams in 64 (StL vs NYY), 67 (StL vs Bos), 74 (Oak vs LAD). He was on the 72 Oakland As team but did not play in the 72 Series- I don't know if he was on the active roster.
    He also played for StL in the 68 Series, losing to Detroit.

    So, Maxvill actually played in the World Series for 3 winning teams- not 5: StL 64, StL 67, Oakland 74.
    I’m well aware of all of this.

    Baseball Reference lists all 3 with 5 rings in their championship count. However, they are all actually more legit than Collins and his 9 AB in 1929 and 3 AB in 1930. I don’t see how one can’t count Barry and McInnis for 5? Counting Maxvill in 73 is a stretch, but he did play on that team. Maxvill did bat 9 times in the 72 ALCS.

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  • Nerdlinger
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    (duplicate post)
    Last edited by Nerdlinger; 01-03-2013, 03:10 PM.

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  • BigRon
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    Originally posted by Macker View Post
    Though Maxvill played for the A's 1972-75, he was not with the A's during the 1973 post-season. He went to the Pirates in midseason of 1973 & returned during the 1974 season.
    Right- Maxvill played on winning WS teams in 64 (StL vs NYY), 67 (StL vs Bos), 74 (Oak vs LAD). He was on the 72 Oakland As team but did not play in the 72 Series- I don't know if he was on the active roster.

    He also played for StL in the 68 Series, losing to Detroit.

    So, Maxvill actually played in the World Series for 3 winning teams- not 5: StL 64, StL 67, Oakland 74.

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  • Macker
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    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    Baseball reference in their WS champs list:

    Barry for championships in 1910, 1911, 1913, 1915, , and 1916
    McInnis for championships 1910, 1911, 1913, 1918, and 1925
    Maxvill for championships in 1964, 1967, 1972, 1973, and 1974.

    Double checking, those players did play on those teams. They are all actually more legit than Collins and his 9 AB in 1929 and 3 AB in 1930 ( which of course, techically count for him as championship seasons).
    Though Maxvill played for the A's 1972-75, he was not with the A's during the 1973 post-season. He went to the Pirates in midseason of 1973 & returned during the 1974 season.

    Jack Barry missed the final 35 games of the 1916 season due to injury and was not on the post-season roster.
    Though McInnnis was with the Athletics for the entire 1910 season, he played only 38 games and did not appear in the World Series.

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  • JR Hart
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    Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    I dont see any of them playing on 5 WS champion teams.

    looking at Maxvill now I only see him playing on 1964, 1967 and 1974 WS teams.
    Baseball reference in their WS champs list:

    Barry for championships in 1910, 1911, 1913, 1915, , and 1916
    McInnis for championships 1910, 1911, 1913, 1918, and 1925
    Maxvill for championships in 1964, 1967, 1972, 1973, and 1974.

    Double checking, those players did play on those teams. They are all actually more legit than Collins and his 9 AB in 1929 and 3 AB in 1930 ( which of course, techically count for him as championship seasons).

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  • GiambiJuice
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    Originally posted by Herr28 View Post
    Gotta give Gene Tenace "The Menace" an honorable mention here ('72-'74 A's, '82 Cardinals)! All 4 of his World Series teams won.
    Mike Timlin too. Went to 4 World Series, two with Toronto in the 92 and 93 and two with Boston in 04 and 07 and won all four.

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  • Herr28
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    Gotta give Gene Tenace "The Menace" an honorable mention here ('72-'74 A's, '82 Cardinals)! All 4 of his World Series teams won.

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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    He actually has 5 and you have guessed the 3rd and final player, with 5. Maxvill only played in 4 those series. So, only Collins, Barry, McGinnis, and Maxvill have more than 4 non yankee titles.
    I dont see any of them playing on 5 WS champion teams.

    looking at Maxvill now I only see him playing on 1964, 1967 and 1974 WS teams.
    Last edited by chicagowhitesox1173; 01-02-2013, 10:48 PM.

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  • JR Hart
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    Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Dal Maxvill had 4.
    He actually has 5 and you have guessed the 3rd and final player, with 5. Maxvill only played in 4 those series. So, only Collins, Barry, McGinnis, and Maxvill have more than 4 non yankee titles.

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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
    You are incorrect, but you have guessed the right answer. Barry and McGinnis each have 5 championships, none with the Yankees. However Barry only played in 4 WS, aa did McGinnis.
    I see them winning only 4 world series championships. When did they win the 5th one?

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  • JR Hart
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    Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    jack Barry and Stuffy McInnis had 4 also.
    You are incorrect, but you have guessed the right answer. Barry and McGinnis each have 5 championships, none with the Yankees. However Barry only played in 4 WS, aa did McGinnis.

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