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Why hasn't Micah Owings been converted to a full time hitter yet?

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  • Why hasn't Micah Owings been converted to a full time hitter yet?

    The guy can obviously rake, with career averages of .290/.320/.532. I'd have to think those numbers would look even better if he focused solely on hitting. If he improves that walk rate a little bit (understandable that it's low because nobody wants to walk the pitcher) he is an elite hitter.

    It's clear that he is not a good pitcher and probably never will be. His career ERA is 5.11 and his WHIP is 1.42. This guy should be hitting every day!
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  • #2
    He certainly is a very good hitter but you don't know how he would hit as a position player.

    Problem is that a position player gets not as good pitches to hit. As a pitcher you don't want to waste 4 or 5 pitches to strike the opponent pitcher out. You want to lay him one in so that he grounds or pops himself out with the first pitch. you do that because pitchers usually can't hit anyway and you can't afford 15+ pitches on the pitcher alone (which is 1/7th of a game for a pitcher in these days when a pitcher only goes to 100 or 110 max).

    As a position player he will face much tougher pitches more regularly, be taken more serious and also has a higher pressure to perform at the plate. also the sample size is not high.

    Owings would be a very good hitter. but would he be better than the average AAA position player? that is the big question because despite sucking right now he still has a spot in the majors. hitting wouldn't guarantee that to him at all so the transition (which would take some time like with ankiel) would be a high risk.
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    • #3
      I think he might have a chance to be as good as Ankiel. I've seen very few pitchers hit like him (Carlos Zambrano of course comes to mind, I think he's hitting .375 this year and has been used as a PH); but then, Cliff Lee had a couple of hits and 3 RBIs today as well. As a Giants fan, I'm wondering if he can play catcher...

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      • #4
        Because Arizona is a National League team. If he was playing for an AL team they would have experimented with him as a DH years ago.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Imgran View Post
          Because Arizona is a National League team. If he was playing for an AL team they would have experimented with him as a DH years ago.
          Or his hitting would have never been discovered...
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          • #6
            Any idea what position he could play if he were converted? Not enough of a stick to be a 1B or COF most likely...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
              Any idea what position he could play if he were converted? Not enough of a stick to be a 1B or COF most likely...
              If Rick Ankiel can be a COF, I'm sure Owings would probably fit in fairly well. Of course Ankiel plays pretty decent defense for his position and we don't really know if Owings would. Honestly, my bet would be on him not playing good defense, but it is also possible that his .850+ OPS might make up for it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                The guy can obviously rake, with career averages of .290/.320/.532.
                I wonder. Much of these numbers comes from 2007, some years ago.

                His numbers from :
                2007-2011 : .287/.317/.527/.843 - OPS+ 113
                2008-2011 : .266/.301/.453/.755 - OPS+ 94
                2009-2011 : .236/.253/.486/.739 - OPS+ 91
                2010-2011 : .167/.167/.333/.500 - OPS+ 31
                2011-2011 : .000/.000/.000/.000 - OPS+ -100

                Could be from focusing on pitching or he's just dropping off...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                  I wonder. Much of these numbers comes from 2007, some years ago.

                  His numbers from :
                  2007-2011 : .287/.317/.527/.843 - OPS+ 113
                  2008-2011 : .266/.301/.453/.755 - OPS+ 94
                  2009-2011 : .236/.253/.486/.739 - OPS+ 91
                  2010-2011 : .167/.167/.333/.500 - OPS+ 31
                  2011-2011 : .000/.000/.000/.000 - OPS+ -100

                  Could be from focusing on pitching or he's just dropping off...
                  I think it's normal that pitchers become worse over time. pitchers just don't really practice hitting while they hit like anybody else in LL,HS, college.

                  Owings was most likely the best hitter of his HS team and one of the best of his college team. but then he became a pitcher and just trained pitching. the longer you do that the worse the hitting becomes.
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                  • #10
                    Again, apparently its fair game for people to bump old threads now:

                    wow what a silly question this was


                    answer: because he stinks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                      The guy can obviously rake, with career averages of .290/.320/.532. I'd have to think those numbers would look even better if he focused solely on hitting. If he improves that walk rate a little bit (understandable that it's low because nobody wants to walk the pitcher) he is an elite hitter.

                      It's clear that he is not a good pitcher and probably never will be. His career ERA is 5.11 and his WHIP is 1.42. This guy should be hitting every day!
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                      • #12
                        Rich sure put an end to that silly argument

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