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  • PureBaseballFan
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    The Future is on the right and left, Julio Teheran on the left and Randall Delgado on the right

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  • Goo64
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    Ten Questions For the Braves

    1. Will a true Ace of the Rotation step up? :: While I like Hudson I still think the Braves need an Ace and if you read my predictions you know I think Hanson is going to do it this year.
    I do think Hanson will make strides toward becoming an ace, but he's such a power pitcher and so young that I look for him to take some lumps as well, I also think Hudson will perform slightly worse than last year and Lowe will be closer to what he was at the end of the year but not quite the same. If all that happens we will have three potential aces on any given day.

    2. Which Nate McLouth will show up? :: Has to be the most asked question will All-Star Nate (2008), Solid Nate (2009), or Terrible make you puke Nate (2010) show up.
    2009 Nate will show up, he didn't have pressure in Pitt but now there's more light on him. He won't be spectacular but he won't do anything to make Fredi take him out of teh lineup either. Solid with some power and a little speed is what I envision.

    3. Will only 3 Braves play good Defense? :: Gonzalez, Freeman, and Heyward are the only ones I expect to be good which could be a major weakness for Atlanta. Even the backups though are average at best defensive players with the likes of Diory, Conrad, Young, Mather, etc.
    Defense won't be anything great but I don't see it costing us as many games as some might expect. It probably won't win us any.

    4. How many games will Chipper play? :: This is a question every year but normally it is asked will he play more then a 130 or 140 games this year you seriously have to question if he will play over a 100.
    I think Chipper will play in about 70 games. Hopefully it won't be due to a major injury, just don't see him being able to take the day to day lumps all year.

    5. Is Alex Gonzalez anything more then a 7th or 8th hitter? :: Alex had a great 1st half which combined with Yunel's personality helped make a trade happen but after coming to Atlanta (a much more pitcher friendly park) he came back to his 2004 - 2006 numbers, will that be what continues or will he have a good year in his contract year.
    Gonzo will end up toward the bottom of the lineup by the end of teh eyar, no question.

    6. Will Kimbrel and Venters be able to shut the door? :: We all love Kimbrel and Venters but until one of them is racking up saves this will always be a big question mark.
    My prediction is Kimbrel starts out hot, then flames out a bit once people figure him out, Venters will have solid numbers and be the closer byt eh end of the year and Sherril and Linebrink will have about 7 saves each.

    7. Can Uggla give the Braves enough of an offensive boost to compete with the Phillies? :: Uggla doesn't need to do it himself but if he can be a consistent force in the Braves lineup (something the Braves were scrambling to find last year) then it should really help the Braves remain competitive in the East.
    Uggla will protect B Mac and J-Hey. When Chipper is int he lineup it'll be rather fearsome when it comes to power. Freeman will add a little as well as Prado and if McClouth hits 15 bombs or so then we have great power potential.

    8. Do the Braves have Depth? :: Last year the Braves dealt with injuries during the season with the quality depth of Infante, Hinske, and Conrad (did a lot before his defensive meltdown), but do the Braves still have that kind of depth either in the majors or the minors?
    I think the depth is fine. We still have Conrad and hinske. We have Schafer and Mather and there are a few more in the minors that could be called upon if necessary.

    9. What is Schafer's Future? :: I read something that makes sense if Schafer is on the major league roster then the Braves don't think his future outlook is good but if he is in the minors then they believe he can still be a quality starter.
    Schafer isn't the future anymore in my opinion. He will start in the minors and gain value and will be traded at the deadline to get some help for our push.

    10. What to do with the $6.667 Million Elephant in the Camp? :: Pure and simple where is KK going to end up, I'm hoping somewhere else for a utility guy in return.
    KK will be traded toward the end of spring training when needs develop and we will eat about 4 MIL is my guess.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Finally have enough time to write my other predictions, in addition there are 10 questions for the Braves going into Spring Training. (would love here your answers)

    Predictions

    Freddie Freeman :: .273 BA :: .344 OBP :: .447 SLG :: .791 OPS :: 454 AB :: 124 H :: 45 R :: 34 2B :: 0 3B :: 15 HR :: 62 RBI :: 46 BB :: 7 IBB :: 93 SO :: 2 SB :: 2 CS

    Freddie's team numbers (RBIs and Runs) are hurt by his low positioning in the lineup and the fact that he gets the day off against tough lefties like Lee or Hamels. Nothing sexy but a solid compliment to the lineup as a whole.

    Eric Hinske :: .238 BA :: .338 OBP :: .425 SLG :: .763 OPS :: 256 AB :: 61 H :: 29 R :: 18 2B :: 0 3B :: 10 HR :: 41 RBI :: 37 BB :: 0 IBB :: 72 SO :: 0 SB :: 0 CS

    I see Eric splitting time at 1B and LF similar to last year but more so in LF with Prado subbing at 3B. Eric doesn't have as good a year as last year but still is a major pinch hitter that helps win the Braves a hand full of games.

    Next Up :: Second Base

    Ten Questions For the Braves

    1. Will a true Ace of the Rotation step up? :: While I like Hudson I still think the Braves need an Ace and if you read my predictions you know I think Hanson is going to do it this year.

    2. Which Nate McLouth will show up? :: Has to be the most asked question will All-Star Nate (2008), Solid Nate (2009), or Terrible make you puke Nate (2010) show up.

    3. Will only 3 Braves play good Defense? :: Gonzalez, Freeman, and Heyward are the only ones I expect to be good which could be a major weakness for Atlanta. Even the backups though are average at best defensive players with the likes of Diory, Conrad, Young, Mather, etc.

    4. How many games will Chipper play? :: This is a question every year but normally it is asked will he play more then a 130 or 140 games this year you seriously have to question if he will play over a 100.

    5. Is Alex Gonzalez anything more then a 7th or 8th hitter? :: Alex had a great 1st half which combined with Yunel's personality helped make a trade happen but after coming to Atlanta (a much more pitcher friendly park) he came back to his 2004 - 2006 numbers, will that be what continues or will he have a good year in his contract year.

    6. Will Kimbrel and Venters be able to shut the door? :: We all love Kimbrel and Venters but until one of them is racking up saves this will always be a big question mark.

    7. Can Uggla give the Braves enough of an offensive boost to compete with the Phillies? :: Uggla doesn't need to do it himself but if he can be a consistent force in the Braves lineup (something the Braves were scrambling to find last year) then it should really help the Braves remain competitive in the East.

    8. Do the Braves have Depth? :: Last year the Braves dealt with injuries during the season with the quality depth of Infante, Hinske, and Conrad (did a lot before his defensive meltdown), but do the Braves still have that kind of depth either in the majors or the minors?

    9. What is Schafer's Future? :: I read something that makes sense if Schafer is on the major league roster then the Braves don't think his future outlook is good but if he is in the minors then they believe he can still be a quality starter.

    10. What to do with the $6.667 Million Elephant in the Camp? :: Pure and simple where is KK going to end up, I'm hoping somewhere else for a utility guy in return.

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  • chip&smoltz95
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    Originally posted by PureBaseballFan View Post
    Interesting rumor about the Braves being one of the frontrunners for Jorge Cantu. Depending on the type of contract it would be a nice pickup as insurance for Chipper and could spell Freeman against a tough Lefty.

    Sorry I haven't posted my previews as I just haven't had any real time to do the things needed for it.
    when i heard DOB debunk this rumor I was mildly intrigued. He's not great with the glove, but he is better than conrad and could play a decent 1B and 3B. I would rather prado in LF than him and prado than mather or something. I wonder if a cantu signing would be the end of conrad's role? Also, it would probably limit hinske to soley a PH role, which I don't mind.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Interesting rumor about the Braves being one of the frontrunners for Jorge Cantu. Depending on the type of contract it would be a nice pickup as insurance for Chipper and could spell Freeman against a tough Lefty.

    Sorry I haven't posted my previews as I just haven't had any real time to do the things needed for it.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Originally posted by Allie Fox View Post
    Great points. Much better than I could have ever articulated. I'm just thinking that if Uggla does have a hard decline in, say the last two years of that contract the Brave men are gong to be stuck with a salary albatross a la Luis Castillo (or Oliver Perez).

    I'm not hating; just being cynical.
    There is an inherent risk in these kinds of contracts. However, it's a risk the Braves had to take. They haven't had a consistent right-handed power for four years, essentially.

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  • Allie Fox
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    Originally posted by PureBaseballFan View Post
    I don't see it a lot that indicates a sharp decline and if you are a believer in things like UZR then he has a chance to increase his value as he is a much better defender away from Florida. Now I don't think he is a .280 hitter but more a .260 or slightly higher type isn't terrible if you add his overall power. If you do believe in UZR (I'm 50/50 on it) then one could make an arguement his value could go up as an increase to even slightly below average would boost his overall value to any team.

    You also have to look at the market place this year went back to the old days of spending a lot and giving extra years. I mean guys like Beltre (5 years, $80 Million), John Buck (3 years, $18 Million), Jayson Werth (7 years, $126 Million), Victor Martinez (4 Years, $50 Million), Paul Konerko (3 years, $37.5 Million), and Adam Dunn (4 years, $56 Million). The Marlins also valued him at around the same price the Braves will pay him (12 million a year for them, 12.4 for the Braves on average) so the Braves weren't the only team that valued him at that price with similar years. The contract isn't perfect but in todays market you will be hard pressed to find a great free agent/one year left contract that is. While imperfect I am fine with the contract on the whole and would rather have 3 good years and lets say 2 average to below average years, then one good year and 2 picks from arbitration.

    Just so you know this isn't targeted at you Sam.
    Great points. Much better than I could have ever articulated. I'm just thinking that if Uggla does have a hard decline in, say the last two years of that contract the Brave men are gong to be stuck with a salary albatross a la Luis Castillo (or Oliver Perez).

    I'm not hating; just being cynical.

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  • chip&smoltz95
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    braves predicted to be stiff competition for the phils. interesting opinion. gives a mini-position by position breakdown of phils vs. braves. 1st person I have seen predicting the braves to outduel the phils. I wanna see what our and their pens look like before I make a decision. At quick glance I think the SP and the offense for both teams should be more or less even. Brad lidge/ryan madison and kimbrel/venters are gonna be big factors.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Predictions

    Brian McCann :: .290 BA :: .386 OBP :: .507 SLG :: .893 OPS :: 489 AB :: 142 H :: 71 R :: 34 2B :: 0 3B :: 24 HR :: 89 RBI :: 72 BB :: 9 IBB :: 93 SO :: 4 SB :: 1 CS

    I no many will think I am being a homer with this prediction as many think Brian has hit his peak, while it is true that he may never match his 2006 numbers I think a return to 2008 numbers is realistic. I think what most people forget about the past 2 years is that Brian had to deal with eye problems at the start of both years which clearly had an effect on his numbers.

    I also think games where he is batting cleanup and Uggla is behind him should offer him much better pitches to hit then the past 2 years.

    David Ross :: .264 BA :: .366 OBP :: .464 SLG :: .830 OPS :: 125 AB :: 33 H :: 14 R :: 10 2B :: 0 3B :: 5 HR :: 22 RBI :: 18 BB :: 2 IBB :: 33 SO :: 0 SB :: 0 CS

    David Ross has a David Ross year, providing a solid offensive catcher when Brian take the day off.

    Next Up : First Base :: I'll be trying to get it out today.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    I know. We're tryign to make sense on why some people hate the extension so much.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    I assume he means both: the Braves overpaid a second baseman who just finished his Age 30 season out of sheer desperation and took with it the high probability that he will never live up to what they're paying him. Castillo signed a four-year contract with the Mets worth $25 million after he was traded to them in the middle of the 2007 season. That is what all the detractors are saying.

    The whole blanching on Uggla's contract hinges on the assumption that he is going to decline and decline sharply most likely sometime around 2013, when he reaches his Age 33 season. They're very distrustful of his production.
    I don't see it a lot that indicates a sharp decline and if you are a believer in things like UZR then he has a chance to increase his value as he is a much better defender away from Florida. Now I don't think he is a .280 hitter but more a .260 or slightly higher type isn't terrible if you add his overall power. If you do believe in UZR (I'm 50/50 on it) then one could make an arguement his value could go up as an increase to even slightly below average would boost his overall value to any team.

    You also have to look at the market place this year went back to the old days of spending a lot and giving extra years. I mean guys like Beltre (5 years, $80 Million), John Buck (3 years, $18 Million), Jayson Werth (7 years, $126 Million), Victor Martinez (4 Years, $50 Million), Paul Konerko (3 years, $37.5 Million), and Adam Dunn (4 years, $56 Million). The Marlins also valued him at around the same price the Braves will pay him (12 million a year for them, 12.4 for the Braves on average) so the Braves weren't the only team that valued him at that price with similar years. The contract isn't perfect but in todays market you will be hard pressed to find a great free agent/one year left contract that is. While imperfect I am fine with the contract on the whole and would rather have 3 good years and lets say 2 average to below average years, then one good year and 2 picks from arbitration.

    Just so you know this isn't targeted at you Sam.
    Last edited by PureBaseballFan; 01-07-2011, 07:47 PM.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Originally posted by PureBaseballFan View Post
    Meaning? Overpaid? Overrated? How do the two compare?
    I assume he means both: the Braves overpaid a second baseman who just finished his Age 30 season out of sheer desperation and took with it the high probability that he will never live up to what they're paying him. Castillo signed a four-year contract with the Mets worth $25 million after he was traded to them in the middle of the 2007 season. That is what all the detractors are saying.

    The whole blanching on Uggla's contract hinges on the assumption that he is going to decline and decline sharply most likely sometime around 2013, when he reaches his Age 33 season. They're very distrustful of his production.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Originally posted by Allie Fox View Post
    Meaning? Overpaid? Overrated? How do the two compare?

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  • Allie Fox
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    Dan Uggla signs a five-year, $62 million extension with Braves

    The Braves have their Luis Castillo.

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  • PureBaseballFan
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    Originally posted by chip&smoltz95 View Post
    i get that he could find a spot and i even agree with you on him taking o'flag or moylan's spot (i stated so in my previous post). I just think with guys like lee hyde, marek, kimbrel, venters, medlen, etc that there are already a lot of pen options and the rotation is pretty crowded as well. i am not suggesting we trade him to just unload him, but if he could help the braves in the long or short term (i.e the trade deadline this year) i am not against doing and he would be one of the top guys on my list of people to trade. Now with that in mind maybe it would be better for him to be getting work in the majors. I just didn't think he would be seeing regular work at the early portions of the season with all the off days (maybe not needing a fifth starter) and the fact that are starting should go pretty deep into games. (i think beachy would be one of the last options out of the pen). If you wanna agree to disagree that's cool, but I am fine to debate if so desired.
    We'll agree to disagree , now on to my reliever preidictions. Just some extra info I won't predict serious injuries because it is impossible to accurately do so, no matter how much Verducci tells you different. I will predict potential trades though and will make note of them in the comments under the stats.

    Predictions

    Craig Kimbrel :: 5 - 4 :: 34 SV :: 5 BS :: 3.22 ERA :: 64.2 IP :: 54 H :: 24 R :: 23 ER :: 5 HR :: 33 BB :: 84 SO :: 1.35 WHIP

    I think Kimbrel is the main closer for this team and for his first full year does well, I might be underrating the walk total but the vast majority of his walks last year came early in the year. Strikeouts and keeping hits totals semi-low help keep his ERA from exploding.

    Jonny Venters :: 4 - 2 :: 7 SV :: 5 BS :: 2.91 ERA :: 74.1 IP :: 61 H :: 27 R :: 24 ER :: 1 HR :: 34 BB :: 85 SO :: 1.28 WHIP

    Jonny comes back down to earth but Freddie also doesn't work him into the ground completely, my one insanely specific prediction next year is Venters will face Matt Diaz and give up the one HR on one of those crazy swings Matt puts on lefties. He gets his share of saves and the BS also count as 8th inning blown saves.

    Peter Moylan :: 4 - 3 :: 2 BS :: 3.66 ERA :: 64 IP :: 58 H :: 30 R :: 26 ER :: 2 HR :: 36 BB :: 49 SO :: 1.46 WHIP

    Peter has his good months and bad months getting him an okay year overall, he gives up more hits thanks to the defensive range likely being lower then the past few years but his extreme groundball tendencies save him from his ERA exploding.

    Eric O'Flaherty :: 1 - 2 :: 1 BS :: 3.37 ERA :: 24 IP :: 20 H :: 10 R :: 9 ER :: 1 HR :: 11 BB :: 17 SO :: 1.29 WHIP

    I think O'Flaherty is going to get traded by the middle of the season for a prospect. While he is here he does what he always does which is be a solid major league contributor.

    Scott Linebrink :: 2 - 4 :: 3.74 ERA :: 60.1 IP :: 57 H :: 26 R :: 25 ER :: 8 HR :: 23 BB :: 51 SO :: 1.33 WHIP

    I think Linebrink gets helped by moving back to the NL and coming to Turner Field where you can be flyball pitcher without being killed, all that said I don't believe he will counted on in major situations but more then likely be the first one out of the pen.

    George Sherrill :: 2 - 4 :: 4.00 ERA :: 38.2 IP :: 38 H :: 17 R :: 17 ER :: 2 HR :: 17 BB :: 31 SO :: 1.44 WHIP

    Sherrill's overall numbers aren't pretty but I think a lot of the damage done will be by the righties he faces every few outtings, I think he does well in his primary gig which is as a lefty specialist.

    Brandon Beachy :: 4 - 3 :: 3.08 ERA :: 27 G :: 3 GS :: 61.2 IP :: 58 H :: 22 R :: 21 ER :: 4 HR :: 20 BB :: 68 SO :: 1.27 WHIP

    This is where Beachy does the majority of his work.

    Stephen Marek :: 2 - 2 :: 3.52 ERA :: 23 IP :: 18 H :: 10 R :: 9 ER :: 2 HR :: 12 BB :: 19 SO :: 1.30 WHIP

    Marek basically takes O'Flare's spot and does a Scott Linebrink type of performance.

    Jairo Asencio :: 1 - 1 :: 4.41 ERA :: 10.2 IP :: 8 H :: 5 R :: 5 ER :: 1 HR :: 6 BB :: 9 SO :: 1.37 WHIP

    The man formerly known as Luis Valdez gets some time.

    Kris Medlen :: 1 - 2 :: 4.50 ERA :: 10 IP :: 10 H :: 5 R :: 5 ER :: 2 HR :: 5 BB :: 8 SO :: 1.50 WHIP

    I think Kris gets back late in the year after a slow rehab.

    Cristhian Martinez :: 0 - 1 :: 5.00 ERA :: 9 IP :: 10 H :: 6 R :: 5 ER :: 1 HR :: 5 BB :: 6 SO :: 1.66 WHIP

    I have little faith in Martinez to have success in the majors unless he faces teams with no plate discipline.

    For those that are wondering I am predicting 89 - 73 Record on the year with a Wild Card berth.

    Next Up :: Catchers

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